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On Jul 7, 5:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

m...



On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

money. Why do pirates go on the air?

In the USA, Radio is always about the money. ALWAYS.

If you don't think NPR, PRI are not about the money, you need to
return your bong.

I don't have a bong. Not every radio station makes money. Some are on
the air to advance an ideology; some are run at a loss for other
business reasons; some are just run by eccentric owners for the fun of
it. We have a station here that Clear Channel runs at a loss just so
they can claim to be more eclectic when they get attacked for being too
controlling of the music.

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money due
to sharper competitors or bad signals.


Eduardo – Your view of life is distorted by your greed. You, and
people like you, are the problem. Your arguments are both bogus and
biased and always self-serving. This is detected by the comments you
make.

There are millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but
a few deluded radio insiders are perfectly happy with analog radio.
There are thousands of local AM and FM stations that serve their areas
well and they are still in business and hopefully will be for a long
time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a microsecond if you could. You read statistics and
numbers looking for ways to exploit regardless of consequences and you
gloat when you think you’re proven right. But so many times you’re
wrong. You are pathetic.

Businesses are full of people like you. Superficial individuals who
convince themselves they’re doing good but the reality is they are
just serving themselves. I know people like you. You connive behind
closed doors and convince yourself of things and then pretend that the
world would be better off with what you just convinced yourself of.
But they are foolish and reckless and so are you.

No doubt you are sitting there snickering but inside you’re
uncomfortable because you are a victim of your selfishness and
shallowness.

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dxAce wrote:

Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Drag queens have socialite pretensions, as you well know, Raoul.
How was last night's 'mutual respect' session?



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m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Drag queens have socialite pretensions, as you well know, Raoul.

Yep, and both you and Pancho certainly have those pretensions.

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Raoulf Kramden wrote:

Drag queens have socialite pretensions, as you well know, Raoul.

Yep, and both you and Pancho certainly have those pretensions.


Pretensions are nothing as solid and real as the woman's clothing in
your closet. Did the Bra Cuhulin sent you actually fit? It was a size B,
if I recall and red in colour.

How did last night's 'mutual respect' session go? Are you walking like a
cowboy?


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On Jul 7, 6:44 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money
due to sharper competitors or bad signals.

They ran Indie 103.1 at a loss until the FCC stopped them.

They did no such thing. Indie was run by Entravision with a JSA (joint sales
agreement) with Clear Channel so they would not have to have a separate
sales department for a station (actually, combo) that only covers about 20%
of the market.

In any case, that was years ago... and the FCC only stopped them indirectly.
Clear ceased to hold the JSA because the FCC redefined the method used to
determine what a "radio market" is, causing quite a few changes across the
country to a number of broadcasters.

Eduardo – Your view of life is distorted by your greed. You, and
people like you, are the problem. Your arguments are both bogus and
biased and always self-serving. This is detected by the comments you
make.

There are millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but
a few deluded radio insiders are perfectly happy with analog radio.
There are thousands of local AM and FM stations that serve their areas
well and they are still in business and hopefully will be for a long
time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a microsecond if you could. You read statistics and
numbers looking for ways to exploit regardless of consequences and you
gloat when you think you’re proven right. But so many times you’re
wrong. You are pathetic.

Businesses are full of people like you. Superficial individuals who
convince themselves they’re doing good but the reality is they are
just serving themselves. I know people like you. You connive behind
closed doors and convince yourself of things and then pretend that the
world would be better off with what you just convinced yourself of.
But they are foolish and reckless and so are you.

No doubt you are sitting there snickering but inside you’re
uncomfortable because you are a victim of your selfishness and
shallowness.

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On Jul 7, 6:44 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

...

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money
due to sharper competitors or bad signals.

They ran Indie 103.1 at a loss until the FCC stopped them.

They did no such thing. Indie was run by Entravision with a JSA (joint sales
agreement) with Clear Channel so they would not have to have a separate
sales department for a station (actually, combo) that only covers about 20%
of the market.

In any case, that was years ago... and the FCC only stopped them indirectly.
Clear ceased to hold the JSA because the FCC redefined the method used to
determine what a "radio market" is, causing quite a few changes across the
country to a number of broadcasters.

Eduardo – Your view of life is distorted by your greed. You, and
people like you, are the problem. Your arguments are both bogus and
biased and always self-serving. This is detected by the comments you
make.

There are millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but
a few deluded radio insiders are perfectly happy with analog radio.
There are thousands of local AM and FM stations that serve their areas
well and they are still in business and hopefully will be for a long
time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a microsecond if you could. You read statistics and
numbers looking for ways to exploit regardless of consequences and you
gloat when you think you’re proven right. But so many times you’re
wrong. You are pathetic.

Businesses are full of people like you. Superficial individuals who
convince themselves they’re doing good but the reality is they are
just serving themselves. I know people like you. You connive behind
closed doors and convince yourself of things and then pretend that the
world would be better off with what you just convinced yourself of.
But they are foolish and reckless and so are you.

No doubt you are sitting there snickering but inside you’re
uncomfortable because you are a victim of your selfishness and
shallowness.

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On Jul 7, 1:43*pm, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

money. *Why do pirates go on the air?

* *In the USA, Radio is always about the money. ALWAYS.

* *If you don't think NPR, PRI are not about the money, you need to
return your bong.

I don't have a bong. * Not every radio station makes money. *Some are on
the air to advance an ideology; *some are run at a loss for other
business reasons; *some are just run by eccentric owners for the fun of
it. *We have a station here that Clear Channel runs at a loss just so
they can claim to be more eclectic when they get attacked for being too
controlling of the music.

- You are talking to a former NPR PD
- (admittedly before the ala carte era).
-
- www.pacifica.org

Dave - D'Oh ! Pacific.Org -ain't- NPR [.] ~ RHF

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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Mon,
7 Jul 2008 23:40:43 -0400, A Brown wrote: Begin


There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio.

And they can continue to enjoy them in analog.

HD radio simply adds more functionality.

No one istaking away analog radio



Jamming other stations with fat sloppy digital sidebands
is indeed 'taking away' those other stations.

These "other stations" that you mention being taken away are not stations
that were ever protected in your area.

These stations were never meant to service your area. Radio signals go on
virtuallity till infinity. We have not protected stations to infinity.

It's a cost vs. reward scenario. There are a few DX-ers who might not be
happy....but many more reap the benefits of HD radio.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4872e39a.3210326@chupacabra...
Rfburns wrote:

There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio. There are hundreds of local AM stations
that serve their areas well and they are still in business and
hopefully will be for a long time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a second if you could. You are pathetic.

He acts like a stereotypical jew
selfish inconsiderate egotistical

Well, there goes your credibility in any discussion Bob Dobb!

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"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
As to AM in Carlsbad, you are at the fringe of the AM signals of the
San
Diego HD AMs, so dropout would be likely on a bad receiver. The fact
is
that
SD does not even have an AM that totally covers the market with a
usable
signal.

2nd model maybe, not second generation.

First generation used several separate chips. Second, starting with the
BA
Receptor, used an integrated chip, third generation coming in next few
months.

Nope. All radios so far are using general purpose IC programmed by EPROM
to run the Ibiquity application.

I'll let you know when an IC that specifically designed for IBOC comes
around.

Gen 1 was a bunch of chips... gen 2 is one EPROM (which in general parlance,
is a chip). Gen 3 includes the Samsung and other "radio on a chip" products.

Gen 1 was the Pioneer car radio nearly every CE of an early HD station had.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4872e39a.3210326@chupacabra...
Rfburns wrote:

There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio. There are hundreds of local AM stations
that serve their areas well and they are still in business and
hopefully will be for a long time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a second if you could. You are pathetic.

He acts like a stereotypical jew
selfish inconsiderate egotistical


First, I am not Jewish, although I see nothing wrong with being a Jew.

Second, I am being realistic. There is no empirical evidence that any
significant listening to first or second adjacent AM channels inside the
contours of a local station. And AM listening is, and has been pre-HD,
declining fast. Markets like Houston have less than 10% AM listening, and
nearly all is over 55.

The fact is that there is nearly no listening to AM by people under 45,
because there are two generations of Americans who have never had a use for
AM. Same is true in many other nations of the world.

In any case, the analog AM broadcasts are not going away... HD is probably
too little and too late to save AM, but it does not really negatively affect
any real listening.

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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Mon,
7 Jul 2008 23:40:43 -0400, A Brown wrote: Begin


There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio.

And they can continue to enjoy them in analog.

HD radio simply adds more functionality.

No one istaking away analog radio



Jamming other stations with fat sloppy digital sidebands
is indeed 'taking away' those other stations.

As I said, there is no empirical evidence that out of market stations were
or are being listened to in the first of second adjacent channels in the
shadow of a stronger local station.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money
due to sharper competitors or bad signals.
They ran Indie 103.1 at a loss until the FCC stopped them.

They did no such thing. Indie was run by Entravision with a JSA (joint
sales agreement) with Clear Channel so they would not have to have a
separate sales department for a station (actually, combo) that only
covers about 20% of the market.

20% if you count unoccupied dirt. Clear Channel ran it at a loss to chip
away at KROQ and to claim the widest playlists in America. JSA usually
means the bigger entity runs things.

I meant "20% of the population" which is the way people in radio think of
coverage. Cattle and rattlesnakes don't carry people meters.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4872e39a.3210326@chupacabra...
Rfburns wrote:

There a millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but a
few deluded insiders, like yourself, are perfectly happy with the
performance of analog radio. There are hundreds of local AM stations
that serve their areas well and they are still in business and
hopefully will be for a long time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a second if you could. You are pathetic.

He acts like a stereotypical jew
selfish inconsiderate egotistical


First, I am not Jewish, although I see nothing wrong with being a Jew.

You are not Hispanic either.


Second, I am being realistic.

'Eduardo', you pathetic little habitual liar. You haven't been 'realistic' since
you were about 12 years old.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money
due to sharper competitors or bad signals.
They ran Indie 103.1 at a loss until the FCC stopped them.
They did no such thing. Indie was run by Entravision with a JSA (joint
sales agreement) with Clear Channel so they would not have to have a
separate sales department for a station (actually, combo) that only
covers about 20% of the market.

20% if you count unoccupied dirt. Clear Channel ran it at a loss to chip
away at KROQ and to claim the widest playlists in America. JSA usually
means the bigger entity runs things.

I meant "20% of the population" which is the way people in radio think of
coverage. Cattle and rattlesnakes don't carry people meters.




You may want to rethink the rattlesnakes.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Teens are not kicked out of anything but high school.

http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

A person who gets a front page obit in a top-15 circulation daily does not
have "pretentions" to anything... they are already recognized community
leaders, not "socialites."

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Teens are not kicked out of anything but high school.

http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

A person who gets a front page obit in a top-15 circulation daily does not
have "pretentions" to anything... they are already recognized community
leaders, not "socialites."

So? She did get you to hit the road so as to not be an embarrassment, did she
not?

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Teens are not kicked out of anything but high school.

http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

A person who gets a front page obit in a top-15 circulation daily does not
have "pretentions" to anything... they are already recognized community
leaders, not "socialites."

Are you really certain that the Plain Dealer put obits on the front page? I'll
have to check that out as well!

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was
an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Teens are not kicked out of anything but high school.

http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

A person who gets a front page obit in a top-15 circulation daily does
not
have "pretentions" to anything... they are already recognized community
leaders, not "socialites."

So? She did get you to hit the road so as to not be an embarrassment, did
she
not?

No, that was my decision and desire... I was bored and suffering in school
in the US, and wanted to do something different.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was
an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Teens are not kicked out of anything but high school.

http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

A person who gets a front page obit in a top-15 circulation daily does
not
have "pretentions" to anything... they are already recognized community
leaders, not "socialites."

Are you really certain that the Plain Dealer put obits on the front page?
I'll
have to check that out as well!

It did in this case. My stepfather was the publisher of the Plain Dealer and
my stepbrother the editor.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was
an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Teens are not kicked out of anything but high school.

http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

A person who gets a front page obit in a top-15 circulation daily does
not
have "pretentions" to anything... they are already recognized community
leaders, not "socialites."

So? She did get you to hit the road so as to not be an embarrassment, did
she
not?

No, that was my decision and desire... I was bored and suffering in school
in the US, and wanted to do something different.

Ya know, 'Eduardo', I don't believe you.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Don't forget that his mama kicked him out of Cleveland because he was
an
embarrassment to her and her socialite pretensions.

Teens are not kicked out of anything but high school.

http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

A person who gets a front page obit in a top-15 circulation daily does
not
have "pretentions" to anything... they are already recognized community
leaders, not "socialites."

Are you really certain that the Plain Dealer put obits on the front page?
I'll
have to check that out as well!

It did in this case. My stepfather was the publisher of the Plain Dealer and
my stepbrother the editor.

Well, as is done here, the names themselves are put on the front page, but the
obits are a page or three into the paper.

I'll get to my local library tomorrow and try and obtain those back issues of
the Plain Dealer!

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He acts like a stereotypical jew
selfish inconsiderate egotistical

Well, there goes your credibility in any discussion Bob Dobb!


Creds went right to the top because,
yes fracklekike, you do act like a typical jew.
Not saying you are one, or that if you were you wouldn't deny it,
just that you acted like one.

I guess Bob Dobb goes into the killfile, as it appears he has nothing
worthwile to offer.

PLONK

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Jamming other stations with fat sloppy digital sidebands is indeed
'taking away' those other stations.

These "other stations" that you mention being taken away are not
stations that were ever protected in your area.

These stations were never meant to service your area. Radio signals go
on virtuallity till infinity. We have not protected stations to
infinity.

It's a cost vs. reward scenario. There are a few DX-ers who might not
be happy....but many more reap the benefits of HD radio.

Some of don't live in cities. We are involuntary DXers.

Where is this that you don't have any local radio service?

Again...it may disurb a few DX-ers...but brings much funtionality and
potential to the state of broadcasting.

A few whiners...but the majority get better radio.

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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on
Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:48:20 -0500, Dave wrote: Begin


There was a time when Pacifica ran NPR stuff, and they used the same CPB
satellite.

I do seem to remember those days, but I wouldn't know anymore,
since there's an international jammer XLNC operating out of Tijuana MX
that has deliberately obstructed my reception of Pacifica KPFK.

KPFK, as I have mentioned before, is only protected, nationally and
internationally, to the theoretical contour of a conforming (50 kw at 500
feet) Class B FM in LA.

KPFK has no protected coverage in San Diego County. XHLNC (All Mexican
independent FMs start with XH and may have on to 4 more letters) is a legal
operation approved by the Comisión Mixta of the US and Mexican delegates and
it fully conforms to US technical requirements.

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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on
Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:49:53 -0500, Dave wrote: Begin


Some of don't live in cities. We are involuntary DXers.

Anonymous D'Wardo doesn't care about the egalitarian aspects of
broadcasting, just how much money can be exploited from it.
That other guy was right, there is an ethnic pattern with him.

If there is no evidence of stations being used in the way you describe (and
it's hard to find evidence of anyone under 45 to 50 even using AM at all)
then how can you "protect" something that has no use? Of course, none of the
HD interference impinges on the protected groundwave contours of stations,
anyway.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I'll get to my local library tomorrow and try and obtain those back issues
of
the Plain Dealer!

You will find it below the fold in the Monday, 4/23 edition of the Plain
Dealer.

Front page.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In posted on
Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:49:53 -0500, Dave wrote: Begin


Some of don't live in cities. We are involuntary DXers.

Anonymous D'Wardo doesn't care about the egalitarian aspects of
broadcasting, just how much money can be exploited from it.
That other guy was right, there is an ethnic pattern with him.

If there is no evidence of stations being used in the way you describe (and
it's hard to find evidence of anyone under 45 to 50 even using AM at all)
then how can you "protect" something that has no use? Of course, none of the
HD interference impinges on the protected groundwave contours of stations,
anyway.

Stuff a burrito in it, 'Eduardo'. IBOC interference screws up plenty of
reception.

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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...

That must have been in the days of high educational standards,
unlike nowadays.

The standards were very high, as I was not in a public school. I was still
bored, as the classes moved and a dul and grindingly slow pace.

With Bush's 'no tard left behind' program,
they help you memorize the dummied down test until you pass.

I simply wanted to go run a radio station, not listen to stuff I already
knew (or classes where I could read the books and references in one
weekend).

Maybe you could go back for some remedial credits?

I did go back... to college... ten years later and had a 4.0 GPA. It was
still boring, but at least I picked classes that would be of value to me and
I had a job on the side that kept me amused to some extent.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In posted
on
Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:49:53 -0500, Dave wrote: Begin


Some of don't live in cities. We are involuntary DXers.

Anonymous D'Wardo doesn't care about the egalitarian aspects of
broadcasting, just how much money can be exploited from it.
That other guy was right, there is an ethnic pattern with him.

If there is no evidence of stations being used in the way you describe
(and
it's hard to find evidence of anyone under 45 to 50 even using AM at all)
then how can you "protect" something that has no use? Of course, none of
the
HD interference impinges on the protected groundwave contours of
stations,
anyway.

Stuff a burrito in it, 'Eduardo'. IBOC interference screws up plenty of
reception.

DX reception. The DXer is not a protected class.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I'll get to my local library tomorrow and try and obtain those back issues
of
the Plain Dealer!

You will find it below the fold in the Monday, 4/23 edition of the Plain
Dealer.

Front page.

1997, right? I'll be certain to check it out.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I'll get to my local library tomorrow and try and obtain those back
issues
of
the Plain Dealer!

You will find it below the fold in the Monday, 4/23 edition of the Plain
Dealer.

Front page.

1997, right? I'll be certain to check it out.


Or check with Tom Vail, the editor of the paper at the time and her stepson.

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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Tue,
8 Jul 2008 14:49:39 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


DX reception. The DXer is not a protected class.

Only the elite with money to spend on whatever they see or hear
advertised have any cachet to a capitalist ******* like D'uardo

Actually, radio is a mass medium, and the biggest interest is in people who
buy mass market goods. No station targets the elite.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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I'll get to my local library tomorrow and try and obtain those back
issues
of
the Plain Dealer!

You will find it below the fold in the Monday, 4/23 edition of the Plain
Dealer.

Front page.

1997, right? I'll be certain to check it out.


Or check with Tom Vail, the editor of the paper at the time and her stepson.

Interesting though that 4/23/1997 is a Wednesday (which you say is a Monday),
whilst the obit that you show was published on Monday 4/21/1997 on what is
obviously an interior page.

Why would a paper publish an obit on Monday, and then return and publish it
again on the 'front page' two days later.

Ref: http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

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On Jul 7, 6:44 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

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On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:

All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money
due to sharper competitors or bad signals.

They ran Indie 103.1 at a loss until the FCC stopped them.

They did no such thing. Indie was run by Entravision with a JSA (joint sales
agreement) with Clear Channel so they would not have to have a separate
sales department for a station (actually, combo) that only covers about 20%
of the market.

In any case, that was years ago... and the FCC only stopped them indirectly.
Clear ceased to hold the JSA because the FCC redefined the method used to
determine what a "radio market" is, causing quite a few changes across the
country to a number of broadcasters.

Eduardo – Your view of life is distorted by your greed. You, and
people like you, are the problem. Your arguments are both bogus and
biased and always self-serving. This is detected by the comments you
make.

There are millions of analog receivers that work perfectly and all but
a few deluded radio insiders are perfectly happy with analog radio.
There are thousands of local AM and FM stations that serve their areas
well and they are still in business and hopefully will be for a long
time.

But your type, which is controlled by greed and convinced of their
superiority, both technical and intellectual, would put them out of
business in a microsecond if you could. You read statistics and
numbers looking for ways to exploit regardless of consequences and you
gloat when you think you’re proven right. But so many times you’re
wrong. You are pathetic.

Businesses are full of people like you. Superficial individuals who
convince themselves they’re doing good but the reality is they are
just serving themselves. I know people like you. You connive behind
closed doors and convince yourself of things and then pretend that the
world would be better off with what you just convinced yourself of.
But they are foolish and reckless and so are you.

No doubt you are sitting there snickering but inside you’re
uncomfortable because you are a victim of your selfishness and
shallowness.

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dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I'll get to my local library tomorrow and try and obtain those back
issues
of
the Plain Dealer!

You will find it below the fold in the Monday, 4/23 edition of the Plain
Dealer.

Front page.

1997, right? I'll be certain to check it out.


Or check with Tom Vail, the editor of the paper at the time and her stepson.

Interesting though that 4/23/1997 is a Wednesday (which you say is a Monday),
whilst the obit that you show was published on Monday 4/21/1997 on what is
obviously an interior page.

Why would a paper publish an obit on Monday, and then return and publish it
again on the 'front page' two days later.

And, if they did, why do you not show the 'front page' version on your website?
And, why did you direct us to the obviously interior page obit, whilst claiming
that her obit was on the front page?

Lot's of questions (as usual) 'Eduardo'.



Ref: http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...
1997, right? I'll be certain to check it out.


Or check with Tom Vail, the editor of the paper at the time and her
stepson.

Interesting though that 4/23/1997 is a Wednesday (which you say is a
Monday),
whilst the obit that you show was published on Monday 4/21/1997 on what is
obviously an interior page.

I can not read the date, and I do not have the source article at work with
me, as I actually don't carry everything around with me for 24/7 access. If
you say it says the 21st, then you have better eysight than me... it looks
like a 23 to me.


Why would a paper publish an obit on Monday, and then return and publish
it
again on the 'front page' two days later.

Whatever the case, whether it is the 21st or the 23rd, there was a "briefer"
front page news story that day, with a fuller obituary inside. That is
common practice when a notable person dies... it is both news and the reason
for an obit.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Why would a paper publish an obit on Monday, and then return and publish
it
again on the 'front page' two days later.

They published both on the same day.

And, if they did, why do you not show the 'front page' version on your
website?
And, why did you direct us to the obviously interior page obit, whilst
claiming
that her obit was on the front page?

One is a news article, the other is a much more biographical obituary.
Common with notable persons in a community.

Lot's of questions (as usual) 'Eduardo'.


None at all.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
1997, right? I'll be certain to check it out.


Or check with Tom Vail, the editor of the paper at the time and her
stepson.

Interesting though that 4/23/1997 is a Wednesday (which you say is a
Monday),
whilst the obit that you show was published on Monday 4/21/1997 on what is
obviously an interior page.

I can not read the date, and I do not have the source article at work with
me, as I actually don't carry everything around with me for 24/7 access. If
you say it says the 21st, then you have better eysight than me... it looks
like a 23 to me.


Why would a paper publish an obit on Monday, and then return and publish
it
again on the 'front page' two days later.

Whatever the case, whether it is the 21st or the 23rd, there was a "briefer"
front page news story that day, with a fuller obituary inside. That is
common practice when a notable person dies... it is both news and the reason
for an obit.

So then what you posted http://www.davidgleason.com/1946_Family.htm is not the
front page article as you claimed.

Shame on you, you worthless little faux Hispanic!

Caught again, 'Eduardo', you are a f00kin liar.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
1997, right? I'll be certain to check it out.


Or check with Tom Vail, the editor of the paper at the time and her
stepson.

Interesting though that 4/23/1997 is a Wednesday (which you say is a
Monday),
whilst the obit that you show was published on Monday 4/21/1997 on what is
obviously an interior page.

I can not read the date, and I do not have the source article at work with
me, as I actually don't carry everything around with me for 24/7 access. If
you say it says the 21st, then you have better eysight than me... it looks
like a 23 to me.

Ah, you're making excuses again... as usual!