"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Art Harris" wrote in message
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wrote:
A group made up primarily of broadcast
consulting engineers proposes a new use for TV Channels 5 and 6 in the
United States once their occupants migrate to digital. It recommends
the
reallocation of part of that spectrum for the use of the country's AM
stations.


Many rural areas of the country are dependent on 50kw clear channel AM
stations for basic news and entertainment. 75MHz AM stations aren't
going to cut it.

The clear channels don't generally cover much that is not covered by
dozens
of FMs in and around each market the 25 original 1 A clears today. At
night,
the AM channels have so much interference that they don't cover much that
is
not covered by FMs, too. And in any case, night radio listening is very
low... about 10% of all radio listening. So saying people are dependent
on
the clear channel stations when, in fact, there is scant listening to
stations outside their metro areas, is exaggeration. There is some, but
it
is almost statistically insignificant today.

You are so full of it Eduardo.

I invite you to talk to any group manager in radio. I can't imagine any of
them saying anything different, because we all live by the same metrics and
information and sales realities.

On Aug 9, 7:14�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Drifter" wrote in message

news
wrote:

I wouldn't say overcrowded, it more conditions. 30 years ago, night-
time was all about the clears, and most local were low power at night.

There is practically no difference in night operation of AM in either
quantity or power of stations between 1978 and today.

Same problem with IBOC - the FCC could mandate the radios into cars,
but no one buys radios, anymore - moving the AMs would antiquate
hundreds-of-millions old analog radios, and no one would notice, or
care. Radio is dying, no mattter what is done - stocks are in the
****ter, layoffs are everywhere, and stations are being sold for
fractions of original prices. Terrestrial radio is dying, and nothing
will stop the bleeding.

On Aug 9, 7:25*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Art Harris" wrote in message

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wrote:
*A group made up primarily of broadcast
consulting engineers proposes a new use for TV Channels 5 and 6 in the
United States once their occupants migrate to digital. It recommends the
reallocation of part of that spectrum for the use of the country’s AM
stations.

Many rural areas of the country are dependent on 50kw clear channel AM
stations for basic news and entertainment. 75MHz AM stations aren't
going to cut it.

The clear channels don't generally cover much that is not covered by dozens
of FMs in and around each market the 25 original 1 A clears today. At night,
the AM channels have so much interference that they don't cover much that is
not covered by FMs, too. And in any case, night radio listening is very
low... about 10% of all radio listening. So saying people are dependent on
the clear channel stations when, in fact, there is scant listening to
stations outside their metro areas, is exaggeration. There is some, but it
is almost statistically insignificant today.

Almost 50% of radio listening is done in cars - almost zero at home.

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Art Harris" wrote in message
...
wrote:
A group made up primarily of broadcast
consulting engineers proposes a new use for TV Channels 5 and 6
in the United States once their occupants migrate to digital. It
recommends the reallocation of part of that spectrum for the use
of the country's AM stations.


Many rural areas of the country are dependent on 50kw clear
channel AM stations for basic news and entertainment. 75MHz AM
stations aren't going to cut it.

The clear channels don't generally cover much that is not covered
by dozens of FMs in and around each market the 25 original 1 A
clears today. At night, the AM channels have so much interference
that they don't cover much that is not covered by FMs, too. And in
any case, night radio listening is very low... about 10% of all
radio listening. So saying people are dependent on the clear
channel stations when, in fact, there is scant listening to
stations outside their metro areas, is exaggeration. There is
some, but it is almost statistically insignificant today.

You are so full of it Eduardo.

I invite you to talk to any group manager in radio.

I invite you to buy a radio and listen to it.

I can't imagine any of them saying anything different, because we all
live by the same metrics and information and sales realities.

You live in a reality of your own making.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"KaitoWRX911" wrote in message
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The clear channels don't generally cover much that is not covered by
dozens
of FMs in and around each market the 25 original 1 A clears today. At
night,
the AM channels have so much interference that they don't cover much that
is
not covered by FMs, too. And in any case, night radio listening is very
low... about 10% of all radio listening. So saying people are dependent on
the clear channel stations when, in fact, there is scant listening to
stations outside their metro areas, is exaggeration. There is some, but it
is almost statistically insignificant today.

Almost 50% of radio listening is done in cars - almost zero at home.

The truth is that in-car averages about 30%, with the low being around 24%
in New York City and the highs in long-commute markets like LA where it is
around 32%. At work and in home account for a bit over a third each.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Drifter" wrote in message
news
wrote:

I wouldn't say overcrowded, it more conditions. 30 years ago, night-
time was all about the clears, and most local were low power at night.

There is practically no difference in night operation of AM in either
quantity or power of stations between 1978 and today.


30 years ago you could hear WLS in Los Angeles.

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I can't imagine any of them saying anything different, because we all
live by the same metrics and information and sales realities.

You live in a reality of your own making.


It's the reality of our entire industry.

"Dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Drifter" wrote in message
news
wrote:

I wouldn't say overcrowded, it more conditions. 30 years ago, night-
time was all about the clears, and most local were low power at night.

There is practically no difference in night operation of AM in either
quantity or power of stations between 1978 and today.
30 years ago you could hear WLS in Los Angeles.

You still can when the UT station is off.

The changes that have taken place are all about the overall noise levels,
not with the stations themselves.

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I can't imagine any of them saying anything different, because we all
live by the same metrics and information and sales realities.

You live in a reality of your own making.


It's the reality of our entire industry.

No, it the reality of your imagined industry.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
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I can't imagine any of them saying anything different, because we all
live by the same metrics and information and sales realities.
You live in a reality of your own making.


It's the reality of our entire industry.


The "reality" of your "industry" is that when you try to run it like a
factory you ruin the product. You make crap because you have no idea
what you're doing. You forget the intangibles and let the number
crunchers pick the songs. You have no one to blame but yourselves.