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November 19th 08, 06:11 PM
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 12:53*pm, Drifter wrote:
wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! I go with John, mount a good antenna. but, i'm not sure what the front end is like in the 7600. a good receiver is only as good as the antenna you use. i like the R75, good receiver. and don't forget the Palstar R30. you can find good receivers on the used market. just be careful. i would stay away from the E1, too many returns on this one. you could check the yahoo groups for info on any model receiver. eham is also good. just remember, what works for me may not work for you. in your area, you have a good used list in- *http://www.ontarioswapshop..com/ this list is up dated on Mondays. good luck. Drifter...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks Drifter, I didn't know about the swap shop. |
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November 19th 08, 09:24 PM
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 12:53*pm, Drifter wrote:
wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! I go with John, mount a good antenna. but, i'm not sure what the front end is like in the 7600. a good receiver is only as good as the antenna you use. i like the R75, good receiver. and don't forget the Palstar R30. you can find good receivers on the used market. just be careful. i would stay away from the E1, too many returns on this one. you could check the yahoo groups for info on any model receiver. eham is also good. just remember, what works for me may not work for you. in your area, you have a good used list in- *http://www.ontarioswapshop..com/ this list is up dated on Mondays. good luck. Drifter... I go with John & Drifter a good random wire antenna and a co-ax lead into your receiver is the way to go. - and I would try TWO antennas, one up in your attic ; hopefullt pointing north - south and one on your fence, Both fed by Co-ax lead ins. Each one will work best for different frequencies. In dry winter conditions, ground yourself before touching the receiver; and disconnecT the antennas when not in use. The Sony is a fine receiver. Very good sound quality when used with headphones. I have a R-75, but it is over kill for what I listen to; - But Great for Pirates ! Have fun ! infowars.com/listen.html#instructions_ajs |
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November 19th 08, 08:27 PM
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#5
November 20th 08, 02:46 AM
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
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Billy Burpelson wrote: SNIP Either arrangement will be fine. Don't forget -- you say you live in a noisy RF environment. The better your antenna, the better it will pick up the signal...AND the noise. SNIP Don't know much about antennas do you. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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November 19th 08, 11:38 PM
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote:
I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! I am in the process of writing up a review of the new Grundig Satellit 750. This receiver is hugely sensitive for World Band SW but requires a GOOD outdoor antenna. I use a Hustler 5BTV vertical, ground mounted, and for me this combination has resulted in superb reception with strong signals exceeding anything I have previously used such as the ATS909, etc. I haven't done a comparison with high end radios, like the E1 and R75, but am more than satisfied with the 750. This radio is very flexible with a great memory setup. I would suggest you check out the 750 first on the Eton website, under Grundig heading at www.eton.com to see if this radio would fulfil your requirements. There is a PDF file for the owners manual there. The price here in Canada was $ 299.00 plus tax. My review on the 750 will be posted to Eham Net in the next little while. This is a good time to check out everything available, but for the very best results check out outdoor antennas, such a verticles, if you are space limited. If I had it to do again, I would start out with best portable or one of the mid priced tabletops and a good antenna mounted outdoors. Like you I have a very noisy location, but the 750 and Hustler verticle cut right through the noise level and produce an amazingly low noise floor. 73 and good luck in choosing your recever, from SW4ever. |
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November 20th 08, 12:44 AM
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 6:38*pm, SW4ever wrote:
On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! I am in the process of writing up a review of the new Grundig Satellit 750. This receiver is hugely sensitive for World Band SW but requires a GOOD outdoor antenna. I use a Hustler 5BTV vertical, ground mounted, and for me this combination has resulted in superb reception with strong signals exceeding anything I have previously used such as the ATS909, etc. I haven't done a comparison with high end radios, like the E1 and R75, but am more than satisfied with the 750. This radio is very flexible with a great memory setup. I would suggest you check out the 750 first on the Eton website, under Grundig heading atwww.eton.com* to see if this radio would fulfil your requirements. There is a PDF file for the owners manual there. The price here in Canada was $ 299.00 plus tax. My review on the 750 will be posted to Eham Net in the next little while. This is a good time to check out everything available, but for the very best results check out outdoor antennas, such a verticles, if you are space limited. If I had it to do again, I would start out with best portable or one of the mid priced tabletops and a good antenna mounted outdoors. Like you I have a very noisy location, but the 750 and Hustler verticle cut right through the noise level and produce an amazingly low noise floor. 73 and good luck in choosing your recever, from SW4ever.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks everyone for the tips. I will take the majority's advice and stick with my 7600GR. THe SAtellit 750 does sound tempting though. I think I will order an MFJ-1020c and hook it up to a random wire in my backyard. I have another thread going to get advice on the details of that setup (e.g., feedline, ground, etc.). Thanks again. Todd Todd |
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November 20th 08, 01:02 AM
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
Dear Sir,
May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! |
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November 20th 08, 04:34 PM
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
Hay Joe. pardon the top post. little FYI here. i do better at
16:00u on 12095 for the BBC. i'm thinking it's just my PA mountains. most of the time 21470 is iffy here. could be the receiver here, been playing with my NRD 515 for the last few weeks. but, the JRC wasn't as good as the 7030 on RSH last weekend. but, if 21470 is bad, try 12095. or pray for sun spots. GOOD DX! Drifter... Joe Analssandrini wrote: Dear Sir, May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34 am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! |
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November 21st 08, 03:09 PM
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 8:02*pm, Joe Analssandrini
wrote: Dear Sir, May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks!- Hide quoted text - As usual, let me disagree with Joe. Though I have to admit that he's right that the 7600GR is a very impressive subcompact portable, I'm not that impressed by it's performance with the AN-LP1. I own two AN- LP1s and neither has ever been that good when used with either my 7600G or GR. Too much noise. Drowns out weak daytime reception of stations not broadcasting to North America. The 7600 series radios already have a high noise floor and the AN-LP1 just makes the problem worse. Instead, I get much better performance out of 25' of wire, even when laid on the ground. The radio is sensitive enough that the wire suffices to hear all kinds of broadcasts targeted at Europe and Africa. The secret is to find someway to get the wire outside. An external wire will usually run circles around anything inside. Some folks tell me that there are active internal antennas up in the $350 to $400 price range that are very impressive, but I'd prefer to use that money on another receiver (admittedly, I own too many!). The AN-LP1 works much better with the Eton E5 (lower noise floor), a Sony 2010, or even an Icom R-75. Just my opinion, Mike Louisville, KY |
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