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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
Dear Sir,
May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! |
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 8:34*am, wrote:
I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! Todddem, You already have the "PC" so the Ten Tec RX 320D is a viable Receiver to consider. http://radio.tentec.com/amateur/receivers/RX320D http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0321.html As "JP" pointed out as critical {may be more critical} then the SWL Receiver is the Shortwave Antenna. -IF- African is your 'target' reception area -or- more importantly Broadcasts from Europe to Africa. Then a Dipole Antenna may be your better 'choice' in Shortwave Listening Antennas. The Eavesdropper-T 'Trapped' Dipole Antenna is about 43 Feet Long, and can be pointed broadside to either Europe {East} or Africa {SE} from Canada. http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/0680.html The B&W ASW-60 Multi-Band Trap Dipole Antenna is about 35 Feet Long, and again can be pointed broadside to either Europe {East} or Africa {SE} from Canada. http://www.bwantennas.com/ama/specials.ama.htm#asw60 iane ~ RHF |
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
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Billy Burpelson wrote: SNIP Either arrangement will be fine. Don't forget -- you say you live in a noisy RF environment. The better your antenna, the better it will pick up the signal...AND the noise. SNIP Don't know much about antennas do you. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
Dave wrote:
wrote: On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. This thing looks quite promising, other than the fact you have to have (yech) Windows to run it: http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html Oh joy. Turns out this will work on Linux. Temptation rears its ugly head. |
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
Hay Joe. pardon the top post. little FYI here. i do better at
16:00u on 12095 for the BBC. i'm thinking it's just my PA mountains. most of the time 21470 is iffy here. could be the receiver here, been playing with my NRD 515 for the last few weeks. but, the JRC wasn't as good as the 7030 on RSH last weekend. but, if 21470 is bad, try 12095. or pray for sun spots. GOOD DX! Drifter... Joe Analssandrini wrote: Dear Sir, May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34 am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! |
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
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wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. I can get the BBC on 15400 here in Seattle, (round 20-22:00) but it's down there at the limit of listenability. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? I'd say that you've got a pretty good receiver already. The couple of units that nobody has mentioned, (if you've got a couple of hundred extra dollars burning a hole in your pocket), is that you can get boxes that combine two antennas that allow you cancel out local noise and, depending on how the two antennas are arraigned, signals on the same frequency coming in from another direction. MFJ makes a couple, and I can't remember the name of the other company (Timewave?). Another option are the broadband loop antennas that can be rotated to null out noise. (Wellbrook). Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
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RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver
On Nov 20, 6:47*am, Dave wrote:
Dave wrote: wrote: On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. - - This thing looks quite promising, - - other than the fact you have to have - - (yech) Windows to run it: - - http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html - Oh joy. -*Turns out this will work on Linux. -*Temptation rears its ugly head. Dave - Go-A-Head Do-It : Buy-It and Try-It RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html then tell us how you like it ~ RHF |
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RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver
RHF wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:47 am, Dave wrote: Dave wrote: wrote: On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. - - This thing looks quite promising, - - other than the fact you have to have - - (yech) Windows to run it: - - http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html - Oh joy. - Turns out this will work on Linux. - Temptation rears its ugly head. Dave - Go-A-Head Do-It : Buy-It and Try-It RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html then tell us how you like it ~ RHF . I generally don't buy receive-only radios these days. |
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 8:02*pm, Joe Analssandrini
wrote: Dear Sir, May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks!- Hide quoted text - As usual, let me disagree with Joe. Though I have to admit that he's right that the 7600GR is a very impressive subcompact portable, I'm not that impressed by it's performance with the AN-LP1. I own two AN- LP1s and neither has ever been that good when used with either my 7600G or GR. Too much noise. Drowns out weak daytime reception of stations not broadcasting to North America. The 7600 series radios already have a high noise floor and the AN-LP1 just makes the problem worse. Instead, I get much better performance out of 25' of wire, even when laid on the ground. The radio is sensitive enough that the wire suffices to hear all kinds of broadcasts targeted at Europe and Africa. The secret is to find someway to get the wire outside. An external wire will usually run circles around anything inside. Some folks tell me that there are active internal antennas up in the $350 to $400 price range that are very impressive, but I'd prefer to use that money on another receiver (admittedly, I own too many!). The AN-LP1 works much better with the Eton E5 (lower noise floor), a Sony 2010, or even an Icom R-75. Just my opinion, Mike Louisville, KY |
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