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Dave[_18_] December 21st 08 12:51 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
...
Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.

While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.

SC Dxing December 21st 08 01:29 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 5:43*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.


Dying perhaps, not dead, new stations still coming on the air. The
mosquito lobby errr wetland lobby has been fighting the station..

WASILLA, Alaska -- A new radio station has hit the airwaves in the Mat-
Su Valley, much to the chagrin of neighbors who live near the radio
tower.

The new, 1,000-watt station -- 1430 AM -- has been up and running
since Wednesday afternoon.

Spirit of Alaska broadcasting, which owns KMBQ-FM, has successfully
installed a new AM radio tower near Cottonwood Creek. The broadcasting
company received its FCC license Friday.

It's the first-ever AM radio station based in Wasilla. But it didn't
come easy.

The station's owner, John Klapperich, said he almost missed the
deadline to get the license because of a delay building the tower
caused by his neighbors.

In mid-October, Klapperich hit a road block when his neighbors built a
barricade on the road to his property.

Even though it's a Mat-Su Borough road, the road wasn't built where it
was supposed to be and actually runs across private property.

The neighbors say they oppose the tower because it sits on wetlands.

"The bottom line is get your tower up, make your money, it doesn't
matter what you do to the people around you," said neighbor Bonnye
Matthews.

And both Matthews and Barry Wise fear the health effects of the radio
waves.

Matthews says when she expressed that concern to Klapperich, he didn't
seem to care.

"His response to me was, ‘If I can't build my tower, then I'll sell it
to somebody else who will build one with a stronger signal,'" she
said.

But Klapperich said research showed he was not harming anyone's
health. So he went ahead with construction.

Klapperich and six others worked nearly two weeks to install the
tower.

"The entire project was put in by hand, Flintstone technology,
literally," Klapperich said.

The crew manually piled a 750-pound piece of steel into the ground and
used a pulley system to get the tower up.

The neighbors say they will continue to fight Klapperich by contacting
state and federal agencies.

But because the FCC has approved his license, Klapperich says it's a
done deal.

"I'd like to think it was the best for the community, the neighbors,
and Mother Earth, if I may," he said.

Whether Valley residents like it or not, KMBQ-FM can now also be heard
on the AM dial.

"We're simulcasting KMBQ-FM until we design some new, local-originated
programming," Klapperich said.



Dave[_18_] December 21st 08 01:37 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
David Eduardo wrote:


And satellite is in such dire straits that new subscribers are fewer
than the churn, and the concept has not made money yet... and likely
won't. Who cares what they offer?


Like that 25 MHz of digital spectrum will go dark?

Sirius will go bankrupt, wipe out the investors, then the creditors, and
then you, in that order. The only way terrestrial radio can stay
relevant is by being local. That means a news department. That means
putting on live shows and generally interacting with the folks on a
street level.

You are incapable of doing it because you work for a bloated corporation
who wants to make money. Radio should be a public service that
hopefully turns a profit, not a sour milk cash cow.

David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 02:28 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
...
Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.

While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.


Bonneville also moved 50 kw KIRO to FM and 50kw WTOP, too.


PocketRadio December 21st 08 02:32 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 7:23*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...

What about iBiquity? *Are they not deeply in dept? *It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.

You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.

The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.

It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. *With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. *There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. *Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. *I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. *Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.


"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008

"There was continued top-down advocacy of HD Radio from David Rehr,
but little support from attendees, and even small signs of revolt on
the subject. It was good to see the clear disconnect on this issue, as
it is forcing radio’s leaders to look more diligently toward viable
solutions that fit the demands of today’s consumer, rather than
depending on a delegated entity to secure radio’s longevity."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

PocketRadio December 21st 08 02:33 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 7:23*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...

What about iBiquity? *Are they not deeply in dept? *It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.

You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.

The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.

It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. *With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. *There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. *Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. *I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. *Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.


Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.


"Addressing The Long Tail: HD2s and HD3s for Fun and Profit"

"Analog radio cannot effectively serve The Long Tail. Broadcasters
have had huge success addressing the 80% with widely popular mass
market content pushed through our loud speakers. But our economic
structure won’t let us take advantage of the few consumers who like
reggae or death metal or comedy or mommy talk. You simply cannot
program niche formats on analog stations and make the numbers work –
listenership and revenue potential are too low to cover capital and
operating costs... So go ahead, grab that Long Tail. It will help your
station, and help the industry."

http://tinyurl.com/66jb9s

"Harvard Business Review: Should You Invest in the Long Tail?"

"Chris Anderson, editor of Wired magazine, argues that the sudden
availability of niche offerings more closely tailored to their tastes
will lure consumers away from homogenized hits. The 'tail' of the
sales distribution curve, he says, will become longer, fatter, and
more profitable. Elberse, a professor at Harvard Business School, set
out to investigate whether Anderson's long-tail theory is actually
playing out in today's markets. She focused on the music and home-
video industries -- two markets that Anderson and others frequently
hold up as examples of the long tail in action -- reviewing sales data
from Nielsen SoundScan, Nielsen VideoScan, the online music service
Rhapsody, and the Australian DVD-by-mail service Quickflix. What she
found may surprise you: Blockbusters are capturing even more of the
market than they used to, and consumers in the tail don't really like
niche products much."

http://www.citeulike.org/user/mmkurth/article/2984768

Oh, really?

David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 02:34 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...

You are incapable of doing it because you work for a bloated corporation
who wants to make money. Radio should be a public service that hopefully
turns a profit, not a sour milk cash cow.


As was proven when the FCC mandated content percentages and such, listeners
stayed away from any time period where such programming ran. When radio is
run as a public service, there is little listening. The story of the BBC,
Radio Luxembourg and the pirates shows that the BBC, a venerable public
service, did not satisfy the needs of most Brits; the Bebe had to add new
services and Britain had to allow commercial radio because even the
politicians realized that the public was very unhappy.

It's sort of KPFK vs. KIIS. The interest in what you crave is miniscule.

Most of the world has national radio, not a lot of local content... because
it's been seen that the FCC localism policy that goes back to the 30's was
based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what listeners wanted.


PocketRadio December 21st 08 02:36 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 7:51�pm, Dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
....
Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.


There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.


While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.


Eduardo is poo-pooing AM radio, because he knows that IBOC has been a
disaster, and that AM contains the successful news/talk/sports
formats. Large AM stations, such as WLW, serve many states - something
FMs can't claim. Yea, the AM dial is more than full of AM stations.
The FM dial is full, and only so many AMs can be moved/simulcast on FM.

David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 02:37 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...
On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
.."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

You really expect an opinion in favor of HD by a direct competitor of
terrestrial radio? The link you have posted goes to a site run by a
proponent of cellular programming delivery. They hate radio.


PocketRadio December 21st 08 02:40 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 9:37*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...
On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

You really expect an opinion in favor of HD by a direct competitor of
terrestrial radio? The link you have posted goes to a site run by a
proponent of cellular programming delivery. They hate radio.


"Black Friday for HD Radio"

"Nor was I surprised when Kurt veered left to discuss - and dismiss -
HD Radio. What fascinated me was the reaction. Any room full of
broadcasters is full of HD radio doubters, nowadays. But the vibe in
this room was remarkable for the eye-rolling and audible snickering
that greeted virtually any mention of HD."

http://www.hear2.com/2008/03/this-weeks-desp.html

"Will Small Markets Convert to HD Radio? Survey Suggests Not Soon"

"Of the 100, he received 50 surveys back. Of those, only one station
had converted to HD-R. Eighty-six percent of the remaining respondents
indicated it would be highly unlikely or somewhat unlikely they would
convert their stations over the next 12 months, according to his
report. Six percent indicated it would be neither likely nor unlikely,
and only 6% indicated it would be likely, he told me. Most respondents
cited cost as the main factor prohibiting conversion; others felt the
technology had been overhyped and that FM analog is good enough in the
listeners’ minds, McIntyre says."

http://www.rwonline.com/leslie_report/


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