More and More AM Radio Stations Moving To The FM Radio Band
 

On Dec 21, 12:51�am, RHF wrote:
On Dec 20, 2:41�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"BoobleStubble" wrote in message

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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage) that
are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A clear
channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can to FM...
other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL in New
Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and WWL, others
just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable listeners are.

�The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original pointof HD, to get
all stations to convert.

No, that was not. The objective was to get the viable FMs and AMs in the top
100 markets on, and with few, few exceptions, they are.

I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet.

WiMax allows for high speed mobile internet. It will allow for the possible
success of internet only stations, local and national.

My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast.

No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static location for
good reception.

The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide.

That is opposite of the truth, as the Clearwire - Sprint deal proved
(although the two could not come to final terms)

KCBS is now simulcasting on FM in the SF Bay Area and
KGO is watching as well as KSFO and others with so
many under-performing FM Radio Stations in SF Bay Area
and elsewhere : Will 'others' follow suit and take the first
step {Simulcast} to eventually becoming FM Only News &
Talk-Radio Stations ? ? ?
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All News KCBS-AM on 740 kHz goes to . . .
FM 106.9 MHz in the SF Bay Areahttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/487324639bfd2f89
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Simulcasting doesn't mean that they are turning off the AMs.

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On Dec 21, 1:07�am, RHF wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:50�pm, PocketRadio wrote:





On Dec 20, 5:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"elaich" wrote in ...
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Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.

"News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed...
Right now -- while FMs are losing the music
audience to new media --

- satellite radio is offering more News/Talk/Sports
- programming than we can fit on AM radio..."
-http://ftp.media.radcity.ten/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm

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So You Are A SHILL for Satellite Radio

well that explains all the 'anti' am & fm radio posts ~ RHF
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We had standard Satrad in our new cars, but elected not to sign up. I
wouldn't waste my money on Satrad, anymore than buy into the HD Radio
scam.

IBOC : FM HD2-Radio Networks - HD-Radio's Bridge To The Future
 

On Dec 21, 8:17�am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 3:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Univision Radio already has a contemporary Christian format on HD2 channels
in a large variety of markets.

Eduardo - Who's listening? �If there are only 1 Million radios sold,
which is a very optimistic number by the way, how many people could
possibly be listening? �How could it be self-supporting?

"HD Radio spinners claim a breakthrough year: Pulling a fast one"

"According to a press release from the Alliance 330,000 HD receivers
were sold last year. This is a 725 per cent increase from the 40,000
sets purchased a year earlier and therefore 2007 was a 'breakthrough
year' for the technology. In 2008 they will sell a million of the
things."

http://tinyurl.com/4zgkaw

Try 100,000 - 200,000, after all of the returns, and multiple
purchases by those in the radio industry.

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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For some reason Eduardo just hates AM radio - AM radio, with its
successful programming is here to stay.

I don't think David "hates AM radio". He is merely stating that, as a
*business*, AM radio is dying. Sure there are still plenty of AM stations
on the air, but they are also moving to FM simulcasts as fast as they can.
How long do you think it will be before the AM part gets shut down?

In my local market here, we had a new AM sports talk station come on about 2
years ago. Frankly, I was amazed. They were *heavily* advertising that it
would be a 50,000 watt station, to cover the entire (large) metro area with
a good signal. However, 2 years later they no longer advertise 50,000
watts, they are *not* 50,000 watts (I can still barely hear it) but they
*do* have a new, powerful FM simulcast that sounds fantastic.

AM radio, with its successful programming, is moving to FM. Existing music
FM stations are the ones in trouble, because no one listens to them any
longer. MP3 players rule the music market now.

This also explains the low interest in HD. If we accept that AM is dying,
then there is obviously no need for AM HD. If FM is becoming the new AM -
mostly news/talk/sports - then again there is no need for HD since analog FM
is more than good enough for that content.

IBOC : FM HD2-Radio Networks - HD-Radio's Bridge To The Future
 

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On Dec 21, 3:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Univision Radio already has a contemporary Christian format on HD2
channels
in a large variety of markets.

Eduardo - Who's listening? If there are only 1 Million radios sold,
which is a very optimistic number by the way, how many people could
possibly be listening? How could it be self-supporting?

The format director goes to large churches, after previously talking with
the pastor, and explains HD. Discount capons and literature are given out,
and we know of thousands of radios sold this way. The same has happened with
our Tejano network on HD2 in Texas... it's up to the station to promote the
product on the air and the sale of receivers.

If we move, let's say, 50,000 receivers in the LA market in the next year,
and each person listens an average amount of time for comparable formats,
the HD 2 channel will show in the ratings... low, but it will show.

The figure on receiver sales is over a million, by the way.

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"Dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

It's sort of KPFK vs. KIIS. The interest in what you crave is miniscule.

Most of the world has national radio, not a lot of local content...
because it's been seen that the FCC localism policy that goes back to the
30's was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what listeners
wanted.


KPFK has an anal blockage of some sort. They are a terrible radio
station. Pacifica in Houston is a much better example. Radio has a
responsibility to provide a balanced diet. KIIS is like eating audio junk
food.

The Houston staiton does no better audience wise than the LA one.

KIIS, on the other hand, reaches a third of all LA residents each week. No
matter what you think, in its target of 12-34, it reaches nearly half of all
persons weekly. They must be doing something right to serve that group with
an entertaining product.

Localism can be as simple as having a Music Director in-house, breaking
regional hits, getting input from dance clubs, etc., rather than relying
on bozo consultants.

Music is already done the way you say you wish it were done. And club play
is relevant only to dance formats, of which there are none in LA:

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"Dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:


Anything outside the local metro is not salable, and thus, irrelevant.

Are the people who rely on such stations also irrelevant, because they
live 50 miles out of town? Why don't we pile up the 50 KW stations like
we do on 1240 and 1400? Build one every 300 miles like TV channels?

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§ 73.21 Classes of AM broadcast channels and stations.

(a) Clear channel. A clear channel is one on which stations are assigned
to [SERVE] wide areas. These stations are protected from objectionable
interference within their primary [SERVICE] areas and, depending on the
class of station, their secondary [SERVICE] areas. Stations operating on
these channels are classified as follows:

Your addition of the word "serve" is totally in contradiction with
everything the commission has done over the last 70 years. Stations, when
proof of "service" was required by community ascertainment lists, etc.,
determined the ijnterests and needs of the city of license and the
surrounding communities... not the outlying communities nor those reachable
by night skip, etc.

The purpose of the clear channels was to provide night service for the
networks back in the 30's when there were only a few hundred stations on the
air (in 1941 there were still less than 1000 of them) so the affiliate
serving Palm Springs was in LA. Radio nets don't care much about nights any
more, as that is TV's territory, and the nets that exist can pick up three
or four hundred affiliates for a show like Delialah or six hundred for Coast
to Coast, obviating the need for night skywave.

If you look at http://www.davidgleason.com/Radio_Annual_1941.htm in the
pages near the front there are maps and lists of the Mutual, CBS, Red and
Blue webs, and you can see why the networks wanted the clears and got them
assigned.

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 11:26�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

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I heard that at the last NAB convention HD radio had little support
also - just a few very vocal nuisances. �Most attendees just put up
with them.

Obviously, you were not there. The Austin NAB (not the Vegas one, which is
now nearly all TV) had more HD sessions and better attendance than any I
have seen. As always, the early technical sessions were well attended,
too.
The only sessions with greater attendance were the PPM ones by Colman and
a
couple of other guest presenters.

There is no support for HD outside of the HD Alliance-owned stations,
and support from them is waining - we got you!

In another post, I mention multiple contemporary Christian stations in
Spanish and a Tejano network... both doing very well, and neither any part
of the Alliance.

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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On Dec 21, 12:00�am, wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:





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No, he just blogs all day long, even from work.

You must not work, or you would know that people have breaks, lunch hours
and even time while on conference calls to do other things. Since I work
about 70 hours a week, often in 18 hour days, my breaks are used to "clear
the mind" by things like web surfing, reading, etc.

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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On Dec 21, 12:48�am, elaich wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in
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AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.

Gives us BCB DXers a sporting chance.

Also, you are full of ****.

For some reason Eduardo just hates AM radio - AM radio, with its
successful programming is here to stay.

AM, per the ratings and reality, is on a decline and is thus dying. Most of
the audience is over 50 or 55, so revenues are declining and very fast. In
some markets, AM represents less than 5% of the listening by persons under
55. And, most AMs are technically unable to even cover their own market, day
and night. Less than one in ten today is a viable entity...

The "successful programming" is fast moving to FM.