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[email protected] December 20th 08 03:16 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
Eduardo - Serious question.

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?

IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.

What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


David Eduardo[_4_] December 20th 08 04:35 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

wrote in message
...
Eduardo - Serious question.

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?

IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.

What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Bob Campbell December 20th 08 04:48 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Yep. In my local market, all of the big AM news/talk stations have already
gone FM. I wonder how long the AM simulcast will survive?



[email protected] December 20th 08 05:26 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...



Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Thanks but -

If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track? Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment? Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio? Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars? Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?

There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.

To me - these are legitimate questions and I'm not convinced you
fully answered the question.



dxAce December 20th 08 05:27 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 


wrote:

On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...



Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Thanks but -

If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track? Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment? Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio? Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars? Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?

There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.

To me - these are legitimate questions and I'm not convinced you
fully answered the question.


Do you think he fed you a line of BS?



[email protected] December 20th 08 05:44 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 12:27 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message


...


Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.


The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.


As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Thanks but -


If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track? Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment? Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio? Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars? Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


To me - these are legitimate questions and I'm not convinced you
fully answered the question.


Do you think he fed you a line of BS?


What do you think?

dxAce December 20th 08 05:46 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 


wrote:

On Dec 20, 12:27 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message


...


Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.


The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.


As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Thanks but -


If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track? Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment? Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio? Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars? Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


To me - these are legitimate questions and I'm not convinced you
fully answered the question.


Do you think he fed you a line of BS?


What do you think?


I'm sceptical about everything he posts.



BoobleStubble December 20th 08 05:51 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 11:35�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...





Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. �2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. �Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. �But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.

Dave[_18_] December 20th 08 07:13 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
BoobleStubble wrote:

- Show quoted text -


Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.


KNX sounds terrible. Before, when they faded a little bit, you hardly
noticed. Now, the Flubbermobile comes bubbling up every few seconds all
night long. Most annoying.

elaich December 20th 08 08:27 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.

[email protected] December 20th 08 08:47 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


Is WTIC an AM station?

PocketRadio December 20th 08 09:10 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 3:47*pm, wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:

wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


Is WTIC an AM station?


Yes... This is probably justt the tip of the iceburg:

"CC Radio’s Format Lab gone?"
November 2008

"So bottom line, the Format Lab is no longer available on the web and
has cut some of its formats down to the most successful/desirable. The
www.iHeartMusic.com website seems to only list the main audio streams
of CC stations--not multicast HD formats--but does offer a few off to
the side: erockster; Pride; Verizon New Music; Smooth Jazz; Real
Oldies; Slow Jams and New Country. There used to be something close to
100 formats listed on the site... Really, the next round of budget
cuts--out of necessity--is likely going to be HD Radio equipment and
licensing renewals. It has cost broadcasters money that so far has not
generated ROI. This CC Radio news above, along with the rumors that
Citadel has told Engineering not to fix any broken HD transmitters on
AM, may be the tip of the iceberg."

http://www.rbr.com/radio/11252.html

I believe that WGY and WBBM have also turned it off - of course, all
of the Citadel AM stations have it off, at least at nighttime.

PocketRadio December 20th 08 09:16 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 3:47*pm, wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:

wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


Is WTIC an AM station?


Well, the FCC has been told not to consider any more actions, so the
forced inclusion of HD Radio into SIRI receivers, and the proposed
10db power increase for FM-HD is on hold:

"Lawmakers order FCC to stand down; put actions on hold"

"Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) and Representative Henry Waxman (D-CA)
today called on FCC Chairman Kevin Martin to put the agency's actions
on hold unless they are urgent or required by law. Rockefeller's and
Waxman's committees both have jurisdiction over the FCC... If the FCC
indeed must stand down (an FCC spokesperson said they are reviewing
the order right now), then the WCS-SDARS issue - and even the HD Radio
mandate - would likely be put on hold until the new administration
moves in."

http://tinyurl.com/63b9wz

"Kevin Martin's FCC Dysfunctional"

"The Committee staff report details some of the most egregious abuses
of power, suppression of information and manipulation of data under
Chairman Martin’s leadership. It is my hope that this report will
serve as a roadmap for a fair, open and efficient FCC under new
leadership in the next administration.”

http://tinyurl.com/59kvkq

"Media: Bush's broken Boy Toy"

"You’re Boy Kevin Martin and you’ll be forever known by your new
acronym for the FCC – Federal Communications Crook. You wear it well.
You’re Boy Kevin Martin and you turned the FCC into your own personal
hackapalooza. Under-the-table deals were your specialty. You’re Boy
Kevin Martin and you offered your own personal directory of preferred
lobbyists to anyone wanting to buy in."

http://tinyurl.com/6bfu9o

I, among others, have been in touch with Obama's FCC transition team,
and my guess is that HD Radio will eventually get investigated.
Doubtful, that many FMs will rebuild transmitter sites for the 10db
power increase, and if there is enough of them, lawsuits will fly:

"Comments of Simmons Media Group, LLC"

"Large-market and large-group stations with more resources will be the
most likely to increase digital operating power, leaving small-market,
rural, and family-owned analog broadcasters to lose revenues from
interference while undertaking large attorney and engineering fees to
fight digital interference at the FCC."

http://tinyurl.com/6fmcx4

Struble sure has done the industry a great service, by dividing and
pitting broadcasters against one another.

PocketRadio December 20th 08 09:22 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 3:47�pm, wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:

wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


Is WTIC an AM station?


Here's the updated list of AM-HD stations:

http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html

Dave[_18_] December 20th 08 09:23 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
wrote:
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


Is WTIC an AM station?


http://www.fccinfo.com/CMDProFacLook...ll+Sign+Search

Dave[_18_] December 20th 08 09:29 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
Dave wrote:
BoobleStubble wrote:

- Show quoted text -


Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.


KNX sounds terrible. Before, when they faded a little bit, you hardly
noticed. Now, the Flubbermobile comes bubbling up every few seconds all
night long. Most annoying.


And yes, I live in the alleged service area. I'm maybe 40 miles North
of Redondo Beach.

David Eduardo[_4_] December 20th 08 10:33 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

wrote in message
...

If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track?


No station operator I have talked with thinks or ever though this would be
anything but a slow transition. First, there had to be stations, and all
that are needed to drive the market are already on with HD.

Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment?


It is going to take longer with a recession, but one of the reasons
broadcasters financed part of the startup was to allow iBiquity, like the
biomedical firms, plenty of time to achieve the industry goals.

Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio?


There is no way to be pleased until we see low power consumption chips
arrive. Remember the patience of radio: it took Arbitron over 12 years to
get the People Meter deployed, and the reason for patience on both sides of
that equation was the need for technology to catch up to the theory.

Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars?


It does not cost very much to keep it going once it is on the air; a bunch
of stations are making money selling HD2 or HD3 channels for narrowcasting,
like a national Hindi network on HD.

Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


Sure. Not much cost.


There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


The argument for that is a reach by the HD opponents, who have neither logic
not facts on their side.



David Eduardo[_4_] December 20th 08 10:41 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
...
Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage) that
are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A clear
channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can to FM...
other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL in New
Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and WWL, others
just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable listeners are.

The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original pointof HD, to get
all stations to convert.

No, that was not. The objective was to get the viable FMs and AMs in the top
100 markets on, and with few, few exceptions, they are.


I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet.

WiMax allows for high speed mobile internet. It will allow for the possible
success of internet only stations, local and national.

My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast.

No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static location for
good reception.

The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide.

That is opposite of the truth, as the Clearwire - Sprint deal proved
(although the two could not come to final terms)


David Eduardo[_4_] December 20th 08 10:43 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"elaich" wrote in message ...
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.

David Eduardo[_4_] December 20th 08 10:43 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

wrote in message
...
On Dec 20, 3:27 pm, elaich wrote:
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


Is WTIC an AM station?


1-B clear in Hartford.


PocketRadio December 20th 08 10:59 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 5:33*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...



If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track?


No station operator I have talked with thinks or ever though this would be
anything but a slow transition. First, there had to be stations, and all
that are needed to drive the market are already on with HD.

Do you think iBiquity investors

will ever want to see a return on their investment?


It is going to take longer with a recession, but one of the reasons
broadcasters financed part of the startup was to allow iBiquity, like the
biomedical firms, plenty of time to achieve the industry goals.

Are broadcasters

pleased with consumer response to HD radio?


There is no way to be pleased until we see low power consumption chips
arrive. Remember the patience of radio: it took Arbitron over 12 years to
get the People Meter deployed, and the reason for patience on both sides of
that equation was the need for technology to catch up to the theory.

Is HD radio making any

money or is it still sustained by investor dollars?


It does not cost very much to keep it going once it is on the air; a bunch
of stations are making money selling HD2 or HD3 channels for narrowcasting,
like a national Hindi network on HD.

*Doesn't it all

come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


Sure. Not much cost.



There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


The argument for that is a reach by the HD opponents, who have neither logic
not facts on their side.


"It does not cost very much to keep it going once it is on the air; a
bunch
of stations are making money selling HD2 or HD3 channels for
narrowcasting,
like a national Hindi network on HD. "

"Radio: HD Radio's holiday horror"

"We already have too many radio stations on terrestrial AM and FM...
If every man, woman and child in this great country of ours had
complete and total access to HD Radio – it would obliterate the radio
industry. You’d have listeners spread out on to too many radio
stations for any one station to show effective reach and frequency. Do
the math. This blue sky world for HD Radio would put all radio out of
business. No one station would have enough listeners to justify
advertising."

http://tinyurl.com/6omhpv

"Radio: The U.K.'s Digital death notice"

"Ferrara came out of hiding this week to fallaciously proclaim that HD
radio-only stations – those that you can hear only on an HD Radio
receiver - are writing business and making money... Reality check: HD
Radio isn’t going to bill anything – period."

http://tinyurl.com/33mtuo

PocketRadio December 20th 08 11:01 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 5:41�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"BoobleStubble" wrote in message

...
Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage) that
are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A clear
channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can to FM....
other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL in New
Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and WWL, others
just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable listeners are.

�The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original pointof HD, to get
all stations to convert.

No, that was not. The objective was to get the viable FMs and AMs in the top
100 markets on, and with few, few exceptions, they are.

I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet.

WiMax allows for high speed mobile internet. It will allow for the possible
success of internet only stations, local and national.

My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast.

No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static location for
good reception.

The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide.

That is opposite of the truth, as the Clearwire - Sprint deal proved
(although the two could not come to final terms)


"No, it's not. And it requires being, pretty much, in a static
location for
good reception. "

Oh really, funny that they use it in their cars. Same must apply to HD
radios in moving vehicles.

PocketRadio December 20th 08 11:04 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 5:43�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"elaich" wrote in ...
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.


Plenty of 50kw AMs left:

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html

According to Mark Ramsey, it is the music-oriented FMs that are slowly
dying. Actuallt, radio is slowly dying, with ad revenues way down
along with lower TSL. Your whole industry, along with SW, is slowing
dying. Mobile Internet is your killer app.

[email protected] December 20th 08 11:09 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 5:33 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...



If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track?


No station operator I have talked with thinks or ever though this would be
anything but a slow transition. First, there had to be stations, and all
that are needed to drive the market are already on with HD.

Do you think iBiquity investors

will ever want to see a return on their investment?


It is going to take longer with a recession, but one of the reasons
broadcasters financed part of the startup was to allow iBiquity, like the
biomedical firms, plenty of time to achieve the industry goals.

Are broadcasters

pleased with consumer response to HD radio?


There is no way to be pleased until we see low power consumption chips
arrive. Remember the patience of radio: it took Arbitron over 12 years to
get the People Meter deployed, and the reason for patience on both sides of
that equation was the need for technology to catch up to the theory.

Is HD radio making any

money or is it still sustained by investor dollars?


It does not cost very much to keep it going once it is on the air; a bunch
of stations are making money selling HD2 or HD3 channels for narrowcasting,
like a national Hindi network on HD.

Doesn't it all

come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


Sure. Not much cost.



There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


The argument for that is a reach by the HD opponents, who have neither logic
not facts on their side.


What about iBiquity? Are they not deeply in dept? It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment. It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

dxAce December 20th 08 11:15 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 


wrote:

On Dec 20, 5:33 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...



If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track?


No station operator I have talked with thinks or ever though this would be
anything but a slow transition. First, there had to be stations, and all
that are needed to drive the market are already on with HD.

Do you think iBiquity investors

will ever want to see a return on their investment?


It is going to take longer with a recession, but one of the reasons
broadcasters financed part of the startup was to allow iBiquity, like the
biomedical firms, plenty of time to achieve the industry goals.

Are broadcasters

pleased with consumer response to HD radio?


There is no way to be pleased until we see low power consumption chips
arrive. Remember the patience of radio: it took Arbitron over 12 years to
get the People Meter deployed, and the reason for patience on both sides of
that equation was the need for technology to catch up to the theory.

Is HD radio making any

money or is it still sustained by investor dollars?


It does not cost very much to keep it going once it is on the air; a bunch
of stations are making money selling HD2 or HD3 channels for narrowcasting,
like a national Hindi network on HD.

Doesn't it all

come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


Sure. Not much cost.



There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


The argument for that is a reach by the HD opponents, who have neither logic
not facts on their side.


What about iBiquity? Are they not deeply in dept? It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment. It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.


And you're trying to get the truth out of 'Eduardo'?

LMFAO



[email protected] December 20th 08 11:28 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 6:15 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 20, 5:33 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message


....


If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track?


No station operator I have talked with thinks or ever though this would be
anything but a slow transition. First, there had to be stations, and all
that are needed to drive the market are already on with HD.


Do you think iBiquity investors


will ever want to see a return on their investment?


It is going to take longer with a recession, but one of the reasons
broadcasters financed part of the startup was to allow iBiquity, like the
biomedical firms, plenty of time to achieve the industry goals.


Are broadcasters


pleased with consumer response to HD radio?


There is no way to be pleased until we see low power consumption chips
arrive. Remember the patience of radio: it took Arbitron over 12 years to
get the People Meter deployed, and the reason for patience on both sides of
that equation was the need for technology to catch up to the theory.


Is HD radio making any


money or is it still sustained by investor dollars?


It does not cost very much to keep it going once it is on the air; a bunch
of stations are making money selling HD2 or HD3 channels for narrowcasting,
like a national Hindi network on HD.


Doesn't it all


come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


Sure. Not much cost.


There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


The argument for that is a reach by the HD opponents, who have neither logic
not facts on their side.


What about iBiquity? Are they not deeply in dept? It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment. It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?


Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.


Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.


And you're trying to get the truth out of 'Eduardo'?

LMFAO


Unlikely, but possible.

PocketRadio December 20th 08 11:50 PM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 5:43�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"elaich" wrote in ...
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.


"News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs
are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is
offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM
radio..."

http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm

David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 12:17 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...
On Dec 20, 5:43�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"elaich" wrote in
...
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.


Plenty of 50kw AMs left:

Not one is #1 in sales demos, and the programming is moving to FM, leaving
far less appealing fare on the AM, which will eventually, like the band,
die.


David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 12:23 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

wrote in message
...

What about iBiquity? Are they not deeply in dept? It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.

You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.

The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.

It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.


David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 12:26 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...
On Dec 20, 5:43�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"elaich" wrote in
...
wrote in news:18fe4501-a9ce-42ea-962a-
:


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.


AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.


"News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs
are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is
offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM
radio..."

Somebody read the ratings backwards. Most of the loss of audience is on AM,
not FM.

And satellite is in such dire straits that new subscribers are fewer than
the churn, and the concept has not made money yet... and likely won't. Who
cares what they offer?


Dave[_18_] December 21st 08 12:51 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
...
Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.

While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.

SC Dxing December 21st 08 01:29 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 5:43*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

AM is dead, the prime formats moving to FM.


Dying perhaps, not dead, new stations still coming on the air. The
mosquito lobby errr wetland lobby has been fighting the station..

WASILLA, Alaska -- A new radio station has hit the airwaves in the Mat-
Su Valley, much to the chagrin of neighbors who live near the radio
tower.

The new, 1,000-watt station -- 1430 AM -- has been up and running
since Wednesday afternoon.

Spirit of Alaska broadcasting, which owns KMBQ-FM, has successfully
installed a new AM radio tower near Cottonwood Creek. The broadcasting
company received its FCC license Friday.

It's the first-ever AM radio station based in Wasilla. But it didn't
come easy.

The station's owner, John Klapperich, said he almost missed the
deadline to get the license because of a delay building the tower
caused by his neighbors.

In mid-October, Klapperich hit a road block when his neighbors built a
barricade on the road to his property.

Even though it's a Mat-Su Borough road, the road wasn't built where it
was supposed to be and actually runs across private property.

The neighbors say they oppose the tower because it sits on wetlands.

"The bottom line is get your tower up, make your money, it doesn't
matter what you do to the people around you," said neighbor Bonnye
Matthews.

And both Matthews and Barry Wise fear the health effects of the radio
waves.

Matthews says when she expressed that concern to Klapperich, he didn't
seem to care.

"His response to me was, ‘If I can't build my tower, then I'll sell it
to somebody else who will build one with a stronger signal,'" she
said.

But Klapperich said research showed he was not harming anyone's
health. So he went ahead with construction.

Klapperich and six others worked nearly two weeks to install the
tower.

"The entire project was put in by hand, Flintstone technology,
literally," Klapperich said.

The crew manually piled a 750-pound piece of steel into the ground and
used a pulley system to get the tower up.

The neighbors say they will continue to fight Klapperich by contacting
state and federal agencies.

But because the FCC has approved his license, Klapperich says it's a
done deal.

"I'd like to think it was the best for the community, the neighbors,
and Mother Earth, if I may," he said.

Whether Valley residents like it or not, KMBQ-FM can now also be heard
on the AM dial.

"We're simulcasting KMBQ-FM until we design some new, local-originated
programming," Klapperich said.



Dave[_18_] December 21st 08 01:37 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
David Eduardo wrote:


And satellite is in such dire straits that new subscribers are fewer
than the churn, and the concept has not made money yet... and likely
won't. Who cares what they offer?


Like that 25 MHz of digital spectrum will go dark?

Sirius will go bankrupt, wipe out the investors, then the creditors, and
then you, in that order. The only way terrestrial radio can stay
relevant is by being local. That means a news department. That means
putting on live shows and generally interacting with the folks on a
street level.

You are incapable of doing it because you work for a bloated corporation
who wants to make money. Radio should be a public service that
hopefully turns a profit, not a sour milk cash cow.

David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 02:28 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
...
Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.

There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.

While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.


Bonneville also moved 50 kw KIRO to FM and 50kw WTOP, too.


PocketRadio December 21st 08 02:32 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 7:23*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...

What about iBiquity? *Are they not deeply in dept? *It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.

You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.

The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.

It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. *With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. *There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. *Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. *I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. *Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.


"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008

"There was continued top-down advocacy of HD Radio from David Rehr,
but little support from attendees, and even small signs of revolt on
the subject. It was good to see the clear disconnect on this issue, as
it is forcing radio’s leaders to look more diligently toward viable
solutions that fit the demands of today’s consumer, rather than
depending on a delegated entity to secure radio’s longevity."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

PocketRadio December 21st 08 02:33 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 7:23*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...

What about iBiquity? *Are they not deeply in dept? *It's one thing for
stations to see a return (if that's really happening as a "national
Hindi network" has very limited appeal) it's another for investors to
receive a return on their huge investment.

You have to separate iBiquity from the stations. iBiquity has relatively
little debt, and is financed with burn capital like most startups.

The radio stations are willing to continue HD programming, as they did for 3
decades with FM, in the hope the system will be more valuable.

It's hard to believe that
HD radio is holding on by anything but a thread. *With less than 1
million radios sold after 6 or 7 years, and nothing new on the
horizon, how could anyone be persuaded by iBiquitys description of HD
radio as "Exciting"?

The low power chipsets are shipping, so 2009 should see both more varied
programming and new radios.

Realistically, to compare the iBiquity HD radio start-up to a
biomedical firm start-up doesn't make sense either. *There’s lots of
discretionary money available for biomedical start-ups (I know because
I work for a pharmaceutical company) but broadcasting is another thing
altogether. *Based on what I now about iBiquity they were convinced
that HD radio would be ubiquitous by now. *I believe Bob Struble
boldly said that by 2009 / 2010 HD radio would be the norm. That
hardly seems likely to happen.

New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a lot of
HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin. And much of the startup money came from
radio itself... and technologt vc firms.

Trust me, I’m not trying to corner you but finding the truth is
difficult. *Ibiquity is not a reliable source and most other sources
are very guarded on the subject.

Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.


Having seen a number of profitable HD channels, I think that as the
offerings mature, radios gradually come out, and channels are split to do
sub-let niche programming like the Hindi thing, there will be lots of
reasons to be happy with HD.


"Addressing The Long Tail: HD2s and HD3s for Fun and Profit"

"Analog radio cannot effectively serve The Long Tail. Broadcasters
have had huge success addressing the 80% with widely popular mass
market content pushed through our loud speakers. But our economic
structure won’t let us take advantage of the few consumers who like
reggae or death metal or comedy or mommy talk. You simply cannot
program niche formats on analog stations and make the numbers work –
listenership and revenue potential are too low to cover capital and
operating costs... So go ahead, grab that Long Tail. It will help your
station, and help the industry."

http://tinyurl.com/66jb9s

"Harvard Business Review: Should You Invest in the Long Tail?"

"Chris Anderson, editor of Wired magazine, argues that the sudden
availability of niche offerings more closely tailored to their tastes
will lure consumers away from homogenized hits. The 'tail' of the
sales distribution curve, he says, will become longer, fatter, and
more profitable. Elberse, a professor at Harvard Business School, set
out to investigate whether Anderson's long-tail theory is actually
playing out in today's markets. She focused on the music and home-
video industries -- two markets that Anderson and others frequently
hold up as examples of the long tail in action -- reviewing sales data
from Nielsen SoundScan, Nielsen VideoScan, the online music service
Rhapsody, and the Australian DVD-by-mail service Quickflix. What she
found may surprise you: Blockbusters are capturing even more of the
market than they used to, and consumers in the tail don't really like
niche products much."

http://www.citeulike.org/user/mmkurth/article/2984768

Oh, really?

David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 02:34 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...

You are incapable of doing it because you work for a bloated corporation
who wants to make money. Radio should be a public service that hopefully
turns a profit, not a sour milk cash cow.


As was proven when the FCC mandated content percentages and such, listeners
stayed away from any time period where such programming ran. When radio is
run as a public service, there is little listening. The story of the BBC,
Radio Luxembourg and the pirates shows that the BBC, a venerable public
service, did not satisfy the needs of most Brits; the Bebe had to add new
services and Britain had to allow commercial radio because even the
politicians realized that the public was very unhappy.

It's sort of KPFK vs. KIIS. The interest in what you crave is miniscule.

Most of the world has national radio, not a lot of local content... because
it's been seen that the FCC localism policy that goes back to the 30's was
based on a fundamental misunderstanding of what listeners wanted.


PocketRadio December 21st 08 02:36 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 7:51�pm, Dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"BoobleStubble" wrote in message
....
Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere.


There are nearly no big AMs (power is not the issue... it's coverage)
that are in the top 5 in the sales demogaphics of 18 to 54. And, like 1A
clear channel KSL in Salt Lake city, they are moving as fast as they can
to FM... other 50 kw AMs that have done this are KIRO in Seattle and WWL
in New Orleans and WIBC in Indianapolis... some simulcast, like KSL and
WWL, others just abandon the format on AM as they go where the salable
listeners are.


While not a 1A, KSL's Phoenix sister KTAR has also moved their News/Talk
to FM.


Eduardo is poo-pooing AM radio, because he knows that IBOC has been a
disaster, and that AM contains the successful news/talk/sports
formats. Large AM stations, such as WLW, serve many states - something
FMs can't claim. Yea, the AM dial is more than full of AM stations.
The FM dial is full, and only so many AMs can be moved/simulcast on FM.

David Eduardo[_4_] December 21st 08 02:37 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...
On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
.."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

You really expect an opinion in favor of HD by a direct competitor of
terrestrial radio? The link you have posted goes to a site run by a
proponent of cellular programming delivery. They hate radio.


PocketRadio December 21st 08 02:40 AM

Eduardo - Serious Question For You
 
On Dec 20, 9:37*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...
On Dec 20, 7:23 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

"New FMs are still going on with HD, showing the interest. There was a
lot of HD enthusiasm at the NAB in Austin."

"NAB Radio Show Report" September 22nd, 2008
."

http://tinyurl.com/4ynxyk

Oh, really?

You really expect an opinion in favor of HD by a direct competitor of
terrestrial radio? The link you have posted goes to a site run by a
proponent of cellular programming delivery. They hate radio.


"Black Friday for HD Radio"

"Nor was I surprised when Kurt veered left to discuss - and dismiss -
HD Radio. What fascinated me was the reaction. Any room full of
broadcasters is full of HD radio doubters, nowadays. But the vibe in
this room was remarkable for the eye-rolling and audible snickering
that greeted virtually any mention of HD."

http://www.hear2.com/2008/03/this-weeks-desp.html

"Will Small Markets Convert to HD Radio? Survey Suggests Not Soon"

"Of the 100, he received 50 surveys back. Of those, only one station
had converted to HD-R. Eighty-six percent of the remaining respondents
indicated it would be highly unlikely or somewhat unlikely they would
convert their stations over the next 12 months, according to his
report. Six percent indicated it would be neither likely nor unlikely,
and only 6% indicated it would be likely, he told me. Most respondents
cited cost as the main factor prohibiting conversion; others felt the
technology had been overhyped and that FM analog is good enough in the
listeners’ minds, McIntyre says."

http://www.rwonline.com/leslie_report/


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