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Eduardo - Serious question.

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?

IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.

What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?

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Eduardo - Serious question.

Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?

The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?

IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.

What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.

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As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Yep. In my local market, all of the big AM news/talk stations have already
gone FM. I wonder how long the AM simulcast will survive?


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On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Thanks but -

If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track? Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment? Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio? Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars? Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?

There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.

To me - these are legitimate questions and I'm not convinced you
fully answered the question.


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On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Thanks but -

If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track? Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment? Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio? Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars? Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?

There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.

To me - these are legitimate questions and I'm not convinced you
fully answered the question.


Do you think he fed you a line of BS?




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On Dec 20, 12:27 pm, dxAce wrote:
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On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.


The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.


As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Thanks but -


If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track? Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment? Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio? Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars? Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


To me - these are legitimate questions and I'm not convinced you
fully answered the question.


Do you think he fed you a line of BS?


What do you think?
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On Dec 20, 12:27 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:35 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message


...


Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. 2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.


The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.


As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
irrelevant.


Thanks but -


If I understand, you seem to think this was a successful year and the
HD radio "deployment" is on track? Do you think iBiquity investors
will ever want to see a return on their investment? Are broadcasters
pleased with consumer response to HD radio? Is HD radio making any
money or is it still sustained by investor dollars? Doesn't it all
come down to paying the bills? Will HD radio have enough time to wait
on consumers and receiver technology to catch up?


There still seems to be many serious issues about the whole thing. Not
to mention the fact that the FCC might have crossed the line
concerning its relationship to iBiquity.


To me - these are legitimate questions and I'm not convinced you
fully answered the question.


Do you think he fed you a line of BS?


What do you think?


I'm sceptical about everything he posts.


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On Dec 20, 11:35�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

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Eduardo - Serious question.


Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


The unavailability radios, the low number of stations converting, the
dwindling dollars available, zero consumer interest and ethical
problems at the FCC - Not much to report. �2009 looks bleak also.
Where do you think it's headed?


IBiquity could spin the facts in previous years but it's going to be
tough this year. �Even if low power radios become available in 2009
(and they don't require huge external antennas to work) the window is
closing fast.


What would be the incentive for stations to convert or continue to pay
fees to iBiquity in 2009?


Most of the early adopter stations pay no fees or a very, very tiny fee. So
that's not an issue. Getting more stations is not an issue, either... 90% of
the US population is already covered. This is pretty much a major market
issue.

The only issue is getting receivers out. That is a marketing issue, and one
that depends on cheap, portable chipsets. In a recession, I don't see that
happening fast. �But I don't see WiMax happening fast, either, so there is a
wider window.

As to AM, the band is dying. The major format, news / talk is moving to FM
and what will be left will be drek. HD on AM at that point becomes
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.
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Eduardo's hate for AM radio is obvious - many of the larger 50kw AM
stations are ranked #1, or are in the top-5, and aren't going
anywhere. The HD conversion has stalled - that was the original point
of HD, to get all stations to convert. I don't see WiMax as a huge
issue either - Verizon and AT&T already provide fast service to the
Internet. My boys just got the new Blackberry Storms and the Internet
is real fast. The FCC is dead-set on providing Internet services
nation-wide. Obama's administation is going after the FCC, and it is
only a matter of time when the HD Radio scandal gets investigated.


KNX sounds terrible. Before, when they faded a little bit, you hardly
noticed. Now, the Flubbermobile comes bubbling up every few seconds all
night long. Most annoying.
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Not to put you on the spot but in your estimation how successful of a
year was it for iBiquitys HD radio?


More and more stations are turning it off. WTIC just joined the crowd.
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