"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Pretty large selection of radios at our PX (and those in Seoul, Osan).

Well that is not the U.S., is it? I was talking about the U.S. Lots of
countries where radio is still viable.

boxes, portables, personals, bookshelf models, even home stereos. And the
ubiquitous i-schlock, some with FM tuners, some without. It IS getting
disgusting to see how most portable and small home stuff is being built
around the i-Schlock.. hell, even 50" Plasma TV's have i-Schlock docking

WTF is i-schlock?

"Bob Campbell" wrote in message
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Pretty large selection of radios at our PX (and those in Seoul, Osan).

Well that is not the U.S., is it? I was talking about the U.S. Lots
of countries where radio is still viable.


Actually, it is... since the only radio any GI listens to is Armed Forces
Network. Local radio and television are non-starters here (at least the
local TV is NTSC-M, American channelization, so if we wanted to we COULD
watch it!!) There's no OTA HD, no QRM producing IBOC..

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Bob Campbell" wrote in message
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Pretty large selection of radios at our PX (and those in Seoul, Osan).

Well that is not the U.S., is it? I was talking about the U.S. Lots
of countries where radio is still viable.


Actually, it is... since the only radio any GI listens to is Armed Forces
Network. Local radio and television are non-starters here (at least the
local TV is NTSC-M, American channelization, so if we wanted to we COULD
watch it!!) There's no OTA HD, no QRM producing IBOC..

Right, but that is a skewed sample. You have Americans far from home
looking to buy something on which they can hear music/news from home. So
they want a radio. If they could hear music/news from home with a ham
sandwich, then ham sandwiches would be selling in the PX.

So it is a *very* skewed sample.

Walk into any dept store/Walmart/Best Buy/whatever in the U.S. How many
radios are for sale these days? How many were for sale 20 years ago? 40?
60? There is a definite downward trend.

Also, you never explained what "i-shlock" was.

In article ,
"Bob Campbell" wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Bob Campbell" wrote in message
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Pretty large selection of radios at our PX (and those in Seoul, Osan).

Well that is not the U.S., is it? I was talking about the U.S. Lots
of countries where radio is still viable.


Actually, it is... since the only radio any GI listens to is Armed Forces
Network. Local radio and television are non-starters here (at least the
local TV is NTSC-M, American channelization, so if we wanted to we COULD
watch it!!) There's no OTA HD, no QRM producing IBOC..

Right, but that is a skewed sample. You have Americans far from home
looking to buy something on which they can hear music/news from home. So
they want a radio. If they could hear music/news from home with a ham
sandwich, then ham sandwiches would be selling in the PX.

So it is a *very* skewed sample.

Walk into any dept store/Walmart/Best Buy/whatever in the U.S. How many
radios are for sale these days? How many were for sale 20 years ago? 40?
60? There is a definite downward trend.

Also, you never explained what "i-shlock" was.

I don't where you are coming on this. The last time a walked into best
buy there was an isle full of radios. Portables, boom boxes, table
radios all made in SE Asia and mostly China.

Radio Shack 23 on this page
http://www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2032073&cp=203205

Best Buy 34 on this page
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....LLUYPTKC4D3DVA
FI?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&id=pcat17071&type=page&ks=960&st=clock+radios& s
c=Global&cp=1&sp=&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1%7E%7Eq636c6f636b2072
6164696f73%7E%7Encabcat0200000%23%232%23%231e&list =y&usc=All+Categories&n
rp=35&iht=n

My favorite Universal 47 AM/FM/SW portables
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable.html

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Telamon
Ventura, California

On Dec 24, 1:57 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"Bob Campbell" wrote:


I don't where you are coming on this. The last time a walked into best
buy there was an isle full of radios. Portables, boom boxes, table
radios all made in SE Asia and mostly China.

No HD though.

In article
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wrote:

On Dec 24, 1:57 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"Bob Campbell" wrote:


I don't where you are coming on this. The last time a walked into best
buy there was an isle full of radios. Portables, boom boxes, table
radios all made in SE Asia and mostly China.

No HD though.

Radio Shack has one but it is out of stock so that adds up to zero.

Best Buy has 3 units. Two shelf units and one component all made by
Insignia. I never heard of this brand before.

Circuit City came up with 55 matches many were car radios but other look
like high end component stereos. If you are interested in HD this looks
like the place to go.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Bob Campbell" wrote in message
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Also, you never explained what "i-shlock" was.

i-Shlock = Steve Jobs' overpriced, underpowered, under-featured (but
inexplicably popular... no accounting for people's thought processes) mp3
players (which can be beaten by a less expensive product with much more
storage capacity and versatility)

In article ,
Bob Campbell wrote:
Walk into any dept store/Walmart/Best Buy/whatever in the U.S. How many
radios are for sale these days? How many were for sale 20 years ago? 40?
60? There is a definite downward trend.

That's because the big box stores are operating under different principles
than what anyone over 35 would expect. It's not longer "find out what
the customer wants", but "stock what you make the most money selling
and intimidate the customer into buying it". (I think the buzzword is
"Directed Marketing"). The idea is that the store's buyers and the
importer/manufacturer's marketing department know the customer better
than the customer does, and can manipulate them into buying something
that isn't really what they want, because it's fashionable, (and there
isn't an alternative available there anyway).

I also suspect that part of the higher profitability is that the cell
phone providers, pay for play music down-loaders, and satellite Radio and
TV companies provide "sales incentives" (derived from their subscription
fees) to the big box chains which causes them to deemphasize any equipment
that gets free broadcasts.

So radios have been exiled to lower end discount stores, and the
drugstore chains (that don't have a conflict of interest between
the subscription based services and the customer).

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
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So radios have been exiled to lower end discount stores, and the
drugstore chains (that don't have a conflict of interest between
the subscription based services and the customer).

So its not that no one is interested in radio, it is all YAC (yet another
conspiracy)!

Bob Campbell wrote:
"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
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So radios have been exiled to lower end discount stores, and the
drugstore chains (that don't have a conflict of interest between
the subscription based services and the customer).

So its not that no one is interested in radio, it is all YAC (yet
another conspiracy)!

We're past the point where "conspiracy" has any meaning.