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Telamon wrote:
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dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave wrote:
The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
right-of-way maintenance. If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.

http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp

The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.

Dorkus Maximus has spoken!

Pruning trees in KY is much more expensive than pruning palm trees in
Los Angeles. Even with tax increases state and municipal gov't are
facing billions in cutbacks due to the worsening economy. Forgive us
if we put more emphasis on saving our school system than in pruning
trees.

Armchair quarterbacks always have the answer.

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Having been thru several up here in MN, Dave is indeed talking out of his
behind.


Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power failures?


You are not thinking this through.



On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
needs to be done.
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Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power
failures?


You are not thinking this through.



On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that needs
to be done.


Most utilities are privately owned... and we are talking millions and
millions of trees. Were they all to be trimmed, electric rates would
increase.

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In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave wrote:
The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
right-of-way maintenance. If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.

http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp

The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.

Dorkus Maximus has spoken!

Pruning trees in KY is much more expensive than pruning palm trees in
Los Angeles. Even with tax increases state and municipal gov't are
facing billions in cutbacks due to the worsening economy. Forgive us
if we put more emphasis on saving our school system than in pruning
trees.

Armchair quarterbacks always have the answer.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Having been thru several up here in MN, Dave is indeed talking out of his
behind.


Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power failures?


You are not thinking this through.



On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
needs to be done.


No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.

You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.

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Telamon wrote:


No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.

You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.

Like I said, I was in Houston for a Category 3 Hurricane. The splices
are still on the wires, from where the un-maintained trees shredded
them. They have since been very proactive regarding preventative
maintenance of right-of-way encroachment.
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On Feb 6, 5:01*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:

No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.


You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.


Like I said, I was in Houston for a Category 3 Hurricane. *The splices
are still on the wires, from where the un-maintained trees shredded
them. *They have since been very proactive regarding preventative
maintenance of right-of-way encroachment.


D'Oh ! - Dave,

The Tree that they 'trim' on the Right-of-Way side
then is often un-balanced and then Falls-a-way on
to the Property and the Owner's House.

go figure . . . ~ RHF


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dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave wrote:
The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
right-of-way maintenance. If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.

http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp

The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.

Dorkus Maximus has spoken!

Pruning trees in KY is much more expensive than pruning palm trees in
Los Angeles. Even with tax increases state and municipal gov't are
facing billions in cutbacks due to the worsening economy. Forgive us
if we put more emphasis on saving our school system than in pruning
trees.

Armchair quarterbacks always have the answer.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Having been thru several up here in MN, Dave is indeed talking out of
his behind.


Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power
failures?


You are not thinking this through.



On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
needs to be done.



Your point started with confusing the paying of taxes with work that is the
responsibility of the utilities.

You also seem to think the utilities don't know the cost/benefits of buried
lines.

The cost to bury lines would be borne by all the customers. Do you have any
clue what this would cost? Do you have any idea how it compares to the cost
of repairing overhead lines?

Do you have any indication that the trees were NOT trimmed according to
standards/guidelines or specifications?

To eliminate trees as an issue would probably removing, not trimming, any
tree within 40-50 feet of the power lines.

You also don't seem to realize that the recent storm was not typical.

Finally, when nobody agrees with your points, you bring up unemployment as
your point. Would you equip 600000 people with chainsaws to trim trees?

Telemon is right, you need to think about what you are posting.

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joe wrote:

Finally, when nobody agrees with your points, you bring up unemployment as
your point. Would you equip 600000 people with chainsaws to trim trees?

Telemon is right, you need to think about what you are posting.


How do you know "nobody agrees with my points"?

I posted a link to Georgia Power backing-up everything I've said here
about the benefits of tree maintenance. Georgia and Kentucky have
similar physical attributes.

Lastly, this is a usenet bulletin board. It is not a deliberative body
with any power whatsoever. What I say don't matter one iota.

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Ha, you are funny! I have quit the booze.I don't wee wee on doggy's
couch anymore.
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watch on Radio tb back in the 1950s.

Somebody would mention Work.Maynard would fall over backwards in his
chair.
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