What people spend on health care has nothing to do with the job
market. You can spend more on health care and get better results,
that has nothing to do with your "global financial competition",
minimum wage, or union actions.

These discussions are all about the deceptive use of the media to gain
power. If the environmental "green movement" was that sincere, there
would be no talk about world currencies or government since it
actually harms the environment (if you literally believed their
science, which I do not) to transport all these "competitive, cheap
goods" all over the world.

There would be no talk of "net neutrality" when google searches or
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claim. If you can't buy a stack of compact discs to record your
data, then what good is free internet?

People that can not afford internet access do not have the financial
skills to use the internet appropriately, and net neutrality advocates
point to the opportunity of lead programs that are really education
centers, not internet access points. Training programs do not have
to operate on the internet, and most job applications involve showing
up, filling out a form, and having a contact number, employers to not
have time to interact on the internet with potential employees.

Net neutrality's abuse potential outweighs its benefit, by giving the
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Mr. Obama's campaign manager is a poor liar in this regard, of just
young and dumb?

Opportunity for the Obama administration is fading quickly to do the
right thing, and when Americans get hungry, their eyes open.

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health benefits of USA companies in U.S.A. have nothing to do with
anything much re overall economy

If such is not a joke, then the polemic's author might console
stockholders of
the bankrupted GM, whom will be writing off their itty bitty losses
in GM stock
come April 15

GM cost has/had been approx $1500 per BOP, Chev, GMC, Hummer, and
Saturn sold
per each unionized worker's GM health benefits

Somebody, please correct me If I am factually full of it but just re
that estimated $1500
per car sold, i already knew that i am 'out of it' generally

On Nov 5, 2:47*am, MagneticEnergy wrote:
What people spend on health care has nothing to do with the job
market. * You can spend more on health care and get better *results,
that has nothing to do with your "global financial competition",
minimum wage, or union actions.

Health Care Spending in the USA is said to be 15%
of the GDP -that's- One in Seven Dollars

Funding US Heath Care through US Jobs and US
Incomes Taxes on American Workers ADDS to the
Cost of American Products {Goods} and Services.
Resulting in Increasing those Cost for Domestic
Made Items; and Items that we Export {Made in
the USA}; while Imported Items do not have those
Costs Built into them.

Funding US Heath Care through a VAT Sales Tax
Taxes both Domestic and Imported Products {Goods}
and Services Equally; plus USA Made Items then sell
Cheaper on the International Market.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e71b44cb7f7488

Why Obama-Care© SUCKS -cause- It's Funding
is based on US Jobs and US Incomes Taxes on
American Workers and Employers; and puts
American Made Products {Goods} and Services at a
Price Disadvantage Around the World; which is Bad
for the American Economy and Kills American Jobs.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...97b840be227617

The Government Option and Single Payer Works
most efficiently when Funded by a VAT Sales Tax
System that is broadly based and who's Cost is
Equally Distributed among all Citizens.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...0b9120a84fbb9e

Warning Your Private Medical Insurance Premiums
Could Triple Under Obama-Care© -source- WSJ
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e31bccc1d98b86
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...1f49abafefaee5

-if- Health Care is a 'basic' Human Right . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...b4b2d695fbc6cc
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...61fc697f2cc612

Paying For A National "Universal" Health Care System
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...97b840be227617

Universal Health Care -means- Universal Health Care
Insurance -aka- Everybody Pays
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...b0e08cc98891d9
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...76440217d9f07f
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...252753633ddf86

idtars ~ RHF

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:37:01 -0800, RHF wrote:


RepubliCAN'Ts, We need more war to fix the economy

Democrats, We need to save the lives of our citizens

I wonder what party is more cough cough "Christian"?

AMA (American Medical Association) Members REVOLT Over Born in Kenya!
Sucks Up To islam TERRORIST!
DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMB
ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSS Endorsement.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=277584

Is GOOD, REVOLT!!!

Crocodile Dundee II issa onna teh TV Land channel.Termorry, ah yam going
acrossit Highway 80 tu teh Sears store anna byes me a Shark floor steam
cleaner thangy furr mah hardwood floor.Metinks ah kin gitz ah lottttt uv
use from tat gizmo.
cuhulin

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Nov 5, 2:47 am, MagneticEnergy wrote:
What people spend on health care has nothing to do with the job
market. You can spend more on health care and get better results,
that has nothing to do with your "global financial competition",
minimum wage, or union actions.

Health Care Spending in the USA is said to be 15%
of the GDP -that's- One in Seven Dollars

Funding US Heath Care through US Jobs and US
Incomes Taxes on American Workers ADDS to the
Cost of American Products {Goods} and Services.
Resulting in Increasing those Cost for Domestic
Made Items; and Items that we Export {Made in
the USA}; while Imported Items do not have those
Costs Built into them.
===================
BULL****. Imported items have the double digit taxes of those countries plus
the double digit inflation built into them,

On Nov 9, 11:37*pm, "EHWollmann" wrote:
- All of you Rightards are such stupid idiotic jerks.
-*You are not worthy to argue or comment about
- American heathcare because yours sucks forever.
-*Look at the French healthcare, They are world's #1,
- they are not rich like US but why their system is so
- efficient! *So quit argue and shut the **** off.
-*let Obama run his healthcare program.
-*I know his economy is not no different than Bush,

That's just so much Liberal-Fascist Name Calling
and NOT FACTS.

- but don't just throw his idea off like you're
- a whole bunch of negro haters.

So Pelosi & Reid & Obama are all 'negros'
will i never knew . . .

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Nov 9, 11:37 pm, "EHWollmann" wrote:
- All of you Rightards are such stupid idiotic jerks.
=====================
Posts the idiotic jerk.
===================
- Look at the French healthcare, They are world's #1,
======================

By whose measure? According to the W.H.O. USA health care is the best.

"Morton Davis" wrote in message
news:harKm.124722$5n1.93013@attbi_s21...

"RHF" wrote in message
...
On Nov 9, 11:37 pm, "EHWollmann" wrote:
- All of you Rightards are such stupid idiotic jerks.
=====================
Posts the idiotic jerk.
===================
- Look at the French healthcare, They are world's #1,
======================

By whose measure? According to the W.H.O. USA health care is the best.


Actually, the W.H.O. ranks France as #1.

The US is ranked #37.

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
51 Dominican Republic
52 Tunisia
53 Jamaica
54 Venezuela
55 Albania
56 Seychelles
57 Paraguay
58 South Korea
59 Senegal
60 Philippines
61 Mexico
62 Slovakia
63 Egypt
64 Kazakhstan
65 Uruguay
66 Hungary
67 Trinidad and Tobago
68 Saint Lucia
69 Belize
70 Turkey
71 Nicaragua
72 Belarus
73 Lithuania
74 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
75 Argentina
76 Sri Lanka
77 Estonia
78 Guatemala
79 Ukraine
80 Solomon Islands
81 Algeria
82 Palau
83 Jordan
84 Mauritius
85 Grenada
86 Antigua and Barbuda
87 Libya
88 Bangladesh
89 Macedonia
90 Bosnia-Herzegovina
91 Lebanon
92 Indonesia
93 Iran
94 Bahamas
95 Panama
96 Fiji
97 Benin
98 Nauru
99 Romania
100 Saint Kitts and Nevis
101 Moldova
102 Bulgaria
103 Iraq
104 Armenia
105 Latvia
106 Yugoslavia
107 Cook Islands
108 Syria
109 Azerbaijan
110 Suriname
111 Ecuador
112 India
113 Cape Verde
114 Georgia
115 El Salvador
116 Tonga
117 Uzbekistan
118 Comoros
119 Samoa
120 Yemen
121 Niue
122 Pakistan
123 Micronesia
124 Bhutan
125 Brazil
126 Bolivia
127 Vanuatu
128 Guyana
129 Peru
130 Russia
131 Honduras
132 Burkina Faso
133 Sao Tome and Principe
134 Sudan
135 Ghana
136 Tuvalu
137 Ivory Coast
138 Haiti
139 Gabon
140 Kenya
141 Marshall Islands
142 Kiribati
143 Burundi
144 China
145 Mongolia
146 Gambia
147 Maldives
148 Papua New Guinea
149 Uganda
150 Nepal
151 Kyrgystan
152 Togo
153 Turkmenistan
154 Tajikistan
155 Zimbabwe
156 Tanzania
157 Djibouti
158 Eritrea
159 Madagascar
160 Vietnam
161 Guinea
162 Mauritania
163 Mali
164 Cameroon
165 Laos
166 Congo
167 North Korea
168 Namibia
169 Botswana
170 Niger
171 Equatorial Guinea
172 Rwanda
173 Afghanistan
174 Cambodia
175 South Africa
176 Guinea-Bissau
177 Swaziland
178 Chad
179 Somalia
180 Ethiopia
181 Angola
182 Zambia
183 Lesotho
184 Mozambique
185 Malawi
186 Liberia
187 Nigeria
188 Democratic Republic of the Congo
189 Central African Republic
190 Myanmar

On Nov 10, 1:54*pm, RHF wrote:
On Nov 9, 11:37*pm, "EHWollmann" wrote:
- All of you Rightards are such stupid idiotic jerks.
-*You are not worthy to argue or comment about
- American heathcare because yours sucks forever.
-*Look at the French healthcare, They are world's #1,
- they are not rich like US but why their system is so
- efficient! *So quit argue and shut the **** off.
-*let Obama run his healthcare program.
-*I know his economy is not no different than Bush,

That's just so much Liberal-Fascist Name Calling
and NOT FACTS.

- but don't just throw his idea off like you're
- a whole bunch of negro haters.

So Pelosi & Reid & Obama are all 'negros'
will i never knew . . .

Watch/See/Look-At/View the PBS Frontline
TV Program "Sick Around the World"
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...roundtheworld/
hosted by T.R. Reid

* The Four Main Health Care System Concepts
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/models..html

* The Five National Systems Studied
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...rld/countries/

-more info-
http://illinipundit.com/2008/04/18/h...pbss-frontline
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michel..._b_158559.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...040802824.html

~ RHF