Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Thanks,
Bruce

bpnjensen wrote:

Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Mar 8, 9:04*am, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) *I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. *It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. *Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

OK. Why?

bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

OK. Why?

I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.

At any rate, one can spend just so much, and after one reaches a certain
point, it ain't gonna help.

It has to do I think with the 'law' of diminishing returns, or something like
that.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On 3/8/10 11:23 , dxAce wrote:


bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 8, 9:04 am, wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

OK. Why?

I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.

LOL!.

Brother, if I could explain women......




At any rate, one can spend just so much, and after one reaches a certain
point, it ain't gonna help.

It has to do I think with the 'law' of diminishing returns, or something like
that.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"D. Peter Maus" wrote:

On 3/8/10 11:23 , dxAce wrote:


bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 8, 9:04 am, wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

OK. Why?

I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.

LOL!.

Brother, if I could explain women......

I think I'm beginning to figure myself out!

At one period in my life, I was used to telling someone to do something, and I
expected it to be done. No explanations needed.

At one time if I said 'go dig a hole over there', I didn't expect to deliver a long
winded explanation of why I wanted the hole dug.

That has followed me through the rest of my life.

On Mar 8, 9:23*am, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) *I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. *It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. *Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

OK. *Why?

I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.

At any rate, one can spend just so much, and after one reaches a certain
point, it ain't gonna help.

It has to do I think with the 'law' of diminishing returns, or something like
that.

dxAce
Michigan
USA- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, that's easy to enough to understand...that is EXACTLY how I felt
(and still feel) about my Kiwa-modded Icom R75. For 50% more *at the
time*, I could have gotten 5% more performance. But based on what
I've seen for prices, the law of diminishing returns does not apply
here in a straightforward manner. Good older radios like Drakes and
the better JRCs don't seem to lose any value at all, and in many cases
cost more than when they were new as collectibles.

OK - So I buy a used Drake R7 or R8B for $1,400, or a new K3 for
$1,400.

Or an NRD-515 and a Sherwood SE-3 for $1,800 or any other decent but
old radio for the same price range.

Unless I can find a place to dependably buy something of this calibre
for much less than $1,500, why should I not get the newer one with
better specs and modern features and upgradeable software/firmware?
The Elecraft, in my estimation, is a significant improvement over the
R75. The others I mention above, for the same price, are not.

Don't get me wrong - I'd love a Drake. But penny for penny, I think
the Elecraft would be a better choice.

Bruce

On Mar 8, 12:37*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 8, 9:23*am, dxAce wrote:



bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) *I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. *It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. *Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

OK. *Why?

I'm searching for the right words. Perhaps D. Peter might help.

At any rate, one can spend just so much, and after one reaches a certain
point, it ain't gonna help.

It has to do I think with the 'law' of diminishing returns, or something like
that.

dxAce
Michigan
USA- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, that's easy to enough to understand...that is EXACTLY how I felt
(and still feel) about my Kiwa-modded Icom R75. *For 50% more *at the
time*, I could have gotten 5% more performance. *But based on what
I've seen for prices, the law of diminishing returns does not apply
here in a straightforward manner. *Good older radios like Drakes and
the better JRCs don't seem to lose any value at all, and in many cases
cost more than when they were new as collectibles.

OK - So I buy a used Drake R7 or R8B *for $1,400, or a new K3 for
$1,400.

Or an NRD-515 and a Sherwood SE-3 for $1,800 or any other decent but
old radio for the same price range.

Unless I can find a place to dependably buy something of this calibre
for much less than $1,500, why should I not get the newer one with
better specs and modern features and upgradeable software/firmware?
The Elecraft, in my estimation, is a significant improvement over the
R75. *The others I mention above, for the same price, are not.

Don't get me wrong - I'd love a Drake. *But penny for penny, I think
the Elecraft would be a better choice.

Bruce

The K3 has a better receiver than the R75, but the fact that it has
better receiver specs than the R75 does not imply that it would be a
better radio *for you* than the R75. The K3 is is a contest rig,
designed for use in extremely crowded, contest-type band conditions
and deep CW pileups. This is why it's a favorite on DXpeditions when
people know there'll be hundreds of people calling them
simultaneously. If you spend a signficant amount of time operating
under these conditions, then you should definitely get the K3. On the
other hand, if you're more interested in DXing utility stations and
that kind of thing, then you might never hear anything on the K3 that
you could not hear on the R75. Spending your money on new antennas,
phasing units or other odds and ends might give you more bang for your
buck in that case.

In article ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f-
, says...
On Mar 8, 9:04*am, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) *I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. *It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. *Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

OK. Why?


Cause DxAce is a Drake fanboi?

The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the
R7A. The R8 and R8A, I sold pretty quickly.
--

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.

BDK wrote:

In article ca58e1d1-8c1d-4355-ac8f-
, says...
On Mar 8, 9:04 am, dxAce wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Hey, Dave, thanks for bringing up the Elecraft K3 (I'm sure my wife
will thank you as well ;-) I just read the Receiver Topics section of
the page, and I can hardly believe my eyes. It looks like a RX dream
come true, even the XMTR notwithstanding.

I just have two questions - As I understand it, once in awhile it is
desirable to download improved software and programming from
Elecraft. Does this radio need to be always connected to a PC
otherwise, or is it perfectly fucntional as a stand-alone unit?

And, as configured in basic format, will it receive and properly
filter AM, or is that an add-on?

Save your money. Buy yourself a nice used Drake receiver.

Your wife may still love you.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

OK. Why?


Cause DxAce is a Drake fanboi?

The only thing Drake ever made I really want, or want to keep is the
R7A.

You can get an R7 and turn it into an R7A rather quickly! They are essentially
one and the same.