On May 31, 1:02*pm, wrote:
I think Office Depot stores sells some LED desk lights too.There are
some Office Depot (also Best Buy stores) stores around here, one of them
is about half a mile South of doggy's couch.Next I am floatin around
near that Office Depot store, if I think about it, I might stop off
there furr ah Looksee.

Some scientist people have discovered a way to make Aluminum
transparent.Cool!
cuhulin

Star Trek & Transparent Aluminium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparent_aluminium

No joking,,, transparent concrete has been invented, there is a certain
kind of a ''Flashlight'' which can ''see'' through walls, only fed govt
has access to those ''Flashlights''.It is a transparent World, except
for Born in Kenya! ULTIMATE POS!
cuhulin

On May 30, 11:06*pm, Bill Baka wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
* .

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White & Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF

On May 30, 7:04*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 30, 1:53*pm, RHF wrote:



Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
*.

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. *Still want LEDs, tho...

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

Direct plug-in 120 VAC LEDs will have the same problem
getting the 120 VAC down to the lower DCV of the LED.
the LED's other Electronics could be a 'source' of some
very small amounts of RFI -if- done right -or- a 'source' of
some RFI -if- done cheaply/badly.

FWIW most of the LEDs that i have attempted to use
in the last few years have been : Too Dim or Fail within
a Year due to internal heat, internal 'connections' and
other AC to DC circuit components.

Not So Bright LEDs
LED Wattage to Incandescent Light Bulb [ILB] Watts :
1 LED Watt ~ 9 ILB Watt
2 LED Watt ~ 18 ILB Watt
3 LED Watt ~ 24 ILB Watt
4 LED Watt ~ 32 ILB Watt
5 LED Watt ~ 45 ILB Watt
-note- here that a 5 Watt LED is about as 'bright' as
a 'dim' 40 Watt ILB and most Consumers would not
think of using a 40 Watt ILB Bulb in a light socket.
6 LED Watt ~ 54 ILB Watt
7 LED Watt ~ 63 ILB Watt
-now- at 7 Watts an LED is is about as 'bright' as
a 'low light' 60 Watt ILB and most Consumers would
think of using one, two or three 60 Watt ILB Bulbs in
some light applications. -but- the 7 Watt LED Bulb
may 'cost' that Consumer ~$50 *ouch*
8 LED Watt ~ 72 ILB Watt
9 LED Watt ~ 81 ILB Watt
-better- at 8~9 Watts an LED is is about as 'bright' as
a 'moderate light' 75 Watt ILB and most Consumers
would think of using one 75 Watt ILB Bulbs in some
light applications. -but- again the 8~9 Watt LED Bulb
may 'cost' that Consumer ~$75 *ouch*ouch*
10 LED Watt ~ 90 ILB Watt
11 LED Watt ~ 99 ILB Watt
12 LED Watt ~ 108 ILB Watt
-best- at 11~12 Watts an LED is is about as 'bright' as
a 'standard light' 100 Watt ILB and most Consumers
would think of using one 100 Watt ILB Bulbs in most
light applications. -but- again the 11~12 Watt LED Bulb
may 'cost' that Consumer ~$100 *ouch*ouch*ouch*

FWIW at $0.10 per KW : $100 can buy a lot of KWs
over time per ILB and even more with CFLs without
a Capital Investment of $100s for LEDs.

i have seen the light and it's called the 'sun' ~ RHF

On May 31, 7:51*am, wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:18:13 -0400, Joe from Kokomo
wrote:

bpnjensen wrote:

The newer CFLs I have purchased appear to be radio-silent, at least at
HF freqs. Still want LEDs, tho...

On 5/31/2010 10:58 AM, dave wrote:

Fry's has an LED desk lamp for $22. Kinda bluish but it only uses 3600 mA.

You added a zero, right?

3600 ma = 3.6 A X 120 volts = 432 watts. A mighty powerful desk lamp! * :-)

- Might have meant milliwatts. 3.6 watts
- would be about right for a flood LED.
-
- Jim

LEDs are Not So Bright !

LED Wattage -to- Incandescent Light Bulb Watts :

3.6 LED Watt ~ 32 Incandescent Light Bulb Watts

Note that a 3.6 Watt LED is about as 'bright'
as a 'dim' 40 Watt Incandescent Light Bulb.

~ RHF

On May 31, 1:54*pm, dave wrote:
- - wrote:
- - http://www.devilfinder.com
- -LED Light Bulbs for your home
- -
- - How about OLED Lighting? Wall and ceiling panels
- - which light up your home at the flip of a switch, and
- - can be programed to turn on and off automatically.
- - It's coming, someday soon.
- - cuhulin

- Flat panel TVs took 40 years. *Don't hold your breath.

Yeah at $100 a Square Foot for OLED [TV] Lighting
you could do an 8'x10' Wall for $800 and have as
much 'mood' lighting as four 100 Watt Incandescent
Light Bulbs and a Dimmer Switch for $20.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED

Still waiting on the Electroluminescence (EL)
"Ceilings of Light" that were going to be the
Home Lighting of the 'future' in the 1960s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroluminescence
* Electroluminescent Displays (ELDs)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroluminescent_display

~ RHF

On 06/01/2010 02:17 AM, RHF wrote:
On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
.

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

Why do you think they have such great service? It's prepaid for by you
the customer.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
.

RHF wrote:
On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
.

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& Warm White}

While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
.
I think the most interference is between 10 and 100 kHz. Beyond that it
drops off quickly. Never been an issue here. I can get KUZZ 24/7.

On Jun 1, 7:18*am, Bill Baka wrote:
On 06/01/2010 02:17 AM, RHF wrote:



On May 30, 11:06 pm, Bill *wrote:
On 05/30/2010 01:53 PM, RHF wrote:

Recently bought a 2-Pack of GE Reveal CFL Light Bulbs at Walmart
that were rated at 100 Watt 'replacement' and uses only 26 Watts.

CFL = Compact Fluorescent Light
GE Reveal CFLs are Made in China

Ok so on the back of the package GE 'reveals'

"This product complies with Part 18 of the FCC Rules,
but [B-U-T] may cause interference [RFI] to radios,
televisions, wireless telephones, and remote controls.
* Avoid placing this product [CFL] near these devices.
* Do not install this product [CFL] near maritime safety
equipment or critical navigation or communication
equipment operating between 0.45-30 MHz."

and now you know ~ RHF
* *.

For what it is worth. I went into the local Walmart and found generic
Chinese bulbs at $.99 and the identical bulbs labeled as GE or some
other American name brand at twice or even 5 times the price so all you
are getting is the American name and making the CEO a lot of money. I'll
bet they laugh all the way to the bank.

The local Walmart has the 'equivalent' 60, 75
and 100 Watt CFL Bulbs by Lights of America
for $ 0.92 each. {Bright White& *Warm White}

- - While the GE Reveal CFLs sell for $10 for a pair.

- Why do you think they have such great *service?
- It's prepaid for by you the customer.

Yeah - The Cost of Doing Business
-is- The Cost of Doing Business
and that "Cost" is normally built into the Price of
the Product or Service that the Customer Pays*.

* Note including the "Cost" of Business Taxes
and Payroll Taxes. {more of the 'indirect' Taxes
we all pay daily}

taxes ... pass it along ~ RHF


-note- the Lights of America CFL Bulbs now have
the same basic RFI Warning.
* Move the Radio or move the CFL if you have RFI.

Most of the time it is the Electronics that make up the
Starter and the Ballast that are the source of the RFI
not the actual CFL Light Bulb Element {Tube}.

~ RHF
* .

The Profits and Perils of LEDs.
http://intelligentenergyportal.com

There is Profit, what is the Peril? Perish the Thought.
cuhulin