On Feb 21, 9:02*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
dave wrote:
"In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political
process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others..
Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks
that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to
politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case
of Mr. Walker). On paper, we re a one-person-one-vote nation; in
reality, we re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of
wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it s important to have institutions that can act as
counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most
important of these institutions.

You don t have to love unions, you don t have to believe that their
policy positions are always right, to recognize that they re among the
few influential players in our political system representing the
interests of middle- and working-class Americans, as opposed to the
wealthy. Indeed, if America has become more oligarchic and less
democratic over the last 30 years which it has that s to an
important extent due to the decline of private-sector unions."
-nyt krugman yesterday

On 2/21/2011 11:19 AM, dxAce wrote:

Poppycock!

No 'poppycock' at all. The Wisconsin unions offered financial cuts and
give-backs towards their pensions and health care, but the governor
rejected their offer out of hand.

In the governor's case, the finances had nothing to do with his agenda;
he -does- want to get rid of collective bargaining. The guv wants to
bust unions, pure and simple.

Steve, from your posts here, you appear to be just a little guy, not a
wealthy individual. Why are you so hell-bent on giving away the store to
Big Business?

The Simple Fact is that All Employ Benefits* should
be on the Same 50%/50% "PAR" as Social Security

50% Paid by the Employer =&= 50% Paid by the Employee
* Retirement
* Health Coverage & Insurance
* Life Insurance
* Disability Insurance
* etc etc etc . . .

Tax Golden Benefit Union Employees as Excessive
Income that the Employer Pays More Than 50%

Government Employees Benefits Should Be The
Same As Regular Hard Working Average American
Tax Payers :
* Fairness For One Is Fairness For All
* Equality For One Is Equality For All
* End The Excesses of Big Government Give-A-Ways
* Government Employees Work For The People
{The People Do Not Exist To Be Taxed Into Slavery To
Support Excessive Benefits For Government Employees}

Sustainable Benefits =&= Sustainable Taxes ~ RHF
{A Just Society =&= A Justly Taxed Society}
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