On 02/21/2011 10:12 AM, dxAce wrote:


Steve, from your posts here, you appear to be just a little guy, not a
wealthy individual. Why are you so hell-bent on giving away the store to
Big Business?

Why are YOU so hell-bent on giving away the store to Big Government?

The only way the little guy has a chance against big business is to have
a powerful government keeping big business in line. Otherwise you have
people like BP and Goldman Sachs pushing everybody around.

On 02/21/2011 02:12 PM, dxAce wrote:


The GREED of Wall Street (Big
Business) brought you the Great Recession that we are in.

Nah, it was the likes of Barney (give it to me in the ass) Frank.


Not true. It was actually a handful of people at a handful of
institutions making greedy (and stupid) decisions. 2 acts of Congress,
criminal behavior by Moody's and S&P and some below the radar "waivers"
created a derivatives bubble. Barney Frank just provided the bubble
material. Phil Gramm, Alan Greenspan, Clinton, Geightner, etc. all went
crazy reversing the laws Roosevelt put in place. This is what happens
when business is deregulated.

These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal. We paid off AIG 100 cents to the dollar. Pension plans took a
hit. People were wiped out. The whole time, rich people have been having
their taxes cut. This is wrong. This is how revolts get started.

On Feb 21, 4:42*pm, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 2/21/11 15:11 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
I hope you [Lare] have and/or can afford medical insurance with YOUR
pre-existing medical condition(s). The Big Business insurance
companies can, have and will again deny coverage to people with
pre-existing conditions.

On 2/21/2011 6:25 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:

Just as the Big Government insurance plan is doing today.

Seeing as the new plan has not yet been implemented, this would presume
that you are referring to what we have 'today' -- Medicare -- which does
NOT deny coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

If you are referring to the new, not yet implemented universal health
care, one of the widely touted features of this plan is that you would
NOT be denied coverage if you had a pre-existing condition.

DP, what you say seems contradictory, could you please 'splain yourself....

Obama-Care© {Big "G" Health Care}
First : They Tax You
Second : They Tax You Some More
Next : They Hand You Your Denial of Benefits Notice
Then : The Free "Death Panel" Counseling
-so-called- 'Voluntary' "End-of-Life"* Planning
http://www.examiner.com/democrat-in-...-life-planning

* Ending Your Life =for= The Good of Society
* * Euthanasia = Obama Liberal 'Elitist' Thinking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia
* * Eugenics = Obama Democrat 'Elitist' Thinking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

The Obama {Elitist} Health Care Directive : Kill-Off The
Old To Cut the High Cost of Keeping Them Alive :
Pay More Taxes and More Premiums and More Fees
-and- Get Less Care and Less Treatment and Less Help
-cause- Your Death Can Be A Blessing To Society

and that is how 'i' see it ~ RHF

On Feb 21, 5:12*pm, dxAce wrote:
Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Joe from Kokomo wrote:

dave wrote:

"In principle, every American citizen has an equal say in our political
process. In practice, of course, some of us are more equal than others.
Billionaires can field armies of lobbyists; they can finance think tanks
that put the desired spin on policy issues; they can funnel cash to
politicians with sympathetic views (as the Koch brothers did in the case
of Mr. Walker). On paper, we re a one-person-one-vote nation; in
reality, we re more than a bit of an oligarchy, in which a handful of
wealthy people dominate.

Given this reality, it s important to have institutions that can act as
counterweights to the power of big money. And unions are among the most
important of these institutions.

You don t have to love unions, you don t have to believe that their
policy positions are always right, to recognize that they re among the
few influential players in our political system representing the
interests of middle- and working-class Americans, as opposed to the
wealthy. Indeed, if America has become more oligarchic and less
democratic over the last 30 years which it has that s to an
important extent due to the decline of private-sector unions."
-nyt krugman yesterday

On 2/21/2011 11:19 AM, dxAce wrote:

Poppycock!

No 'poppycock' at all. The Wisconsin unions offered financial cuts and
give-backs towards their pensions and health care, but the governor
rejected their offer out of hand.

In the governor's case, the finances had nothing to do with his agenda;
he -does- want to get rid of collective bargaining. The guv wants to
bust unions, pure and simple.

Steve, from your posts here, you appear to be just a little guy, not a
wealthy individual. Why are you so hell-bent on giving away the store to
Big Business?

On 2/21/2011 1:12 PM, dxAce wrote:

Why are YOU so hell-bent on giving away the store to Big Government?

Well, at least Big Government will provide a large variety of services
for its citizens -- libraries, paved roads, traffic lights, fire and
police departments, Social Security, Medicare, etc, etc, etc.

Big Business will grab you by the ankles, turn you upside down and shake
every last nickel out of your pocket.

Gee, that sure sounds like Big Government!

The GREED of Wall Street (Big
Business) brought you the Great Recession that we are in.

Nah, it was the likes of Barney (give it to me in the ass) Frank.



Big Business,
with a Trillion (with a 'T') dollar, all-time high, record profits, will
not resume hiring. Now that they have down-sized the daylights out of
the work force, they love those record profits that they are getting out
of a reduced work force.

I hope you have and/or can afford medical insurance with YOUR
pre-existing medical condition(s). The Big Business insurance companies
can, have and will again deny coverage to people with pre-existing
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Reminds me of the 'Barney Song' .

On Feb 21, 8:11*pm, dave wrote:
On 02/21/2011 02:12 PM, dxAce wrote:



The GREED of Wall Street (Big
Business) brought you the Great Recession that we are in.

Nah, it was the likes of Barney (give it to me in the ass) Frank.

Not true. It was actually a handful of people at a handful of
institutions making greedy (and stupid) decisions. 2 acts of Congress,
criminal behavior by Moody's and S&P and some below the radar "waivers"
created a derivatives bubble. Barney Frank just provided the bubble
material. Phil Gramm, Alan Greenspan, Clinton, Geightner, etc. all went
crazy reversing the laws Roosevelt put in place. This is what happens
when business is deregulated.

These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal. We paid off AIG 100 cents to the dollar. Pension plans took a
hit. People were wiped out. The whole time, rich people have been having
their taxes cut. This is wrong. This is how revolts get started.

This time -- you are right . And MORE .

On Feb 21, 7:11*pm, Gary Forbis wrote:

* * * Let The Truth Be Told * * *

dave wrote:

On 02/21/2011 02:12 PM, dxAce wrote:


The GREED of Wall Street (Big
Business) brought you the Great Recession that we are in.

Nah, it was the likes of Barney (give it to me in the ass) Frank.


Not true. It was actually a handful of people at a handful of
institutions making greedy (and stupid) decisions. 2 acts of Congress,
criminal behavior by Moody's and S&P and some below the radar "waivers"
created a derivatives bubble. Barney Frank just provided the bubble
material. Phil Gramm, Alan Greenspan, Clinton, Geightner, etc. all went
crazy reversing the laws Roosevelt put in place. This is what happens
when business is deregulated.

These people crashed the economy on purpose so they could destroy the
New Deal.

Take your meds, Dave, and revel in the knowledge that you are a Golden
Come-Along Winner!

We're so thrilled that you got yours, Dave. After all you are a Golden Come-Along
Winner, and certainly deserve the best!

On 02/21/2011 05:57 PM, RHF wrote:


The Obama {Elitist} Health Care Directive : Kill-Off The
Old To Cut the High Cost of Keeping Them Alive :
Pay More Taxes and More Premiums and More Fees
-and- Get Less Care and Less Treatment and Less Help
-cause- Your Death Can Be A Blessing To Society


You are an embarrassment. Our current health care system kills 50,000
people a year. Minimum. And those are just the ones that never see the
inside of a doctor's office until it's too late.

You support doctors gaming the system while denying people care, so that
only the most profitable medicine is practiced? You think people should
get rich from other people getting sick? No moral issues there?

On 02/21/2011 11:27 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:



Government medical plans, of any stripe turn down more pre-existing
conditions than all the insurance carriers combined.


What do you mean "turn down more pre-existing
conditions"? Are you saying people with chronic conditions are denied
coverage? That is not my understanding. Medicare is like group health
insurance; they have to cover you.