On 6/10/2011 12:06 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:00:27 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.

Yes, your denial of Einstein is obvious, no matter what attempts you
make to obfuscate it and spin it ...

You know less about Einstein than you do about SR and GR; I
didn't think that was possible. And your out-of-context
quote mining, when Einstein himself said he didn't believe
in a personal deity, is indicative of your basic dishonesty.

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied
this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me
which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it." (Albert Einstein, 1954)

And BTW, "spacetime" was Einstein's idea.

HTH, and HANL; I'm through trying to educate you.

Actually, spacetime = ether.

There is no such thing as time, there is only movement, distance and
position ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

On Jun 10, 12:25*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:









On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:
Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?
“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein
John... Do you know what a cite is?
I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?
Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......
Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids *would have been ideal for Hitler or any other
warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.

This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of
military family dysfunctions and suicides. *Way to go, HVAC. *Perhaps
GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and
blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting
off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed.

Wrong newsgroup; alt.rants.free-association.non-sequiturs is
over that way...
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * - McNameless

So your being a ZNR is good for business?

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

On Jun 9, 8:17*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like Semites that
never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway?

I wish I could work out what this is meant to say!

Shill #2
--
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum

Pretenders that never police their own kind make good FUD-masters.


????????

What the...?

Please... write... in... English.

Englische bitte. Engelse asseblief. Ingles mangyaring. Anglais s'il vous plaît.
Bahasa Inggris silahkan. Inglese per favore. Engelska vänligen.




Are you a Muslim or in favor of some religion other than Semite/
Jewish?


I believe Muslims and Jews are just as deluded as the Christians. There is no
sky pixie. To Believe in any particular one is nuts.


Don't bother to give us that usual crap that you go along with
whatever any religion or faith-based cabal has to say.


You mean the truth?

No. It's obvious that you and truth parted company years ago.


Tell us where does your income and/or benefits come from?


My real income, or my shill one you fantasise about?

My real income comes from an aeronautical engineering company. We fix planes.

That's the truth, so you may now ignore it.


Since you never think for yourself; who are your peers?

My peers, Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”, are
sane people.


Shill #2
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When
many people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
Robert M. Pirsig

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

On Jun 10, 12:25*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:









On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:
Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?
“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein
John... Do you know what a cite is?
I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?
Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......
Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids *would have been ideal for Hitler or any other
warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.

This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of
military family dysfunctions and suicides. *Way to go, HVAC. *Perhaps
GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and
blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting
off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed.

Wrong newsgroup; alt.rants.free-association.non-sequiturs is
over that way...
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * - McNameless

So your being a ZNR is good for business?

So, if you wrote in a form that English speakers could follow, some people might
engage you in debate.

Shill #2
--
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum

On 6/10/2011 2:07 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids


My boys will be thrilled to hear that they're being
referred to as 'killing machines'.

I'll let em know.



would have been ideal for Hitler or any other


Dude... What is it with you and your bromance with Hitler?


warlord that happen to be in charge. In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.


LOL!







--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

On Jun 10, 4:18*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:
On Jun 9, 8:17*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like Semites that
never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway?

I wish I could work out what this is meant to say!

Shill #2
--
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum

Pretenders that never police their own kind make good FUD-masters.

????????

What the...?

Please... write... in... English.

Englische bitte. Engelse asseblief. Ingles mangyaring. Anglais s'il vous plaît.
Bahasa Inggris silahkan. Inglese per favore. Engelska vänligen.

Are you a Muslim or in favor of some religion other than Semite/
Jewish?

I believe Muslims and Jews are just as deluded as the Christians. There is no
sky pixie. To Believe in any particular one is nuts.

Don't bother to give us that usual crap that you go along with
whatever any religion or faith-based cabal has to say.

You mean the truth?

No. It's obvious that you and truth parted company years ago.

Tell us where does your income and/or benefits come from?

My real income, or my shill one you fantasise about?

My real income comes from an aeronautical engineering company. We fix planes.

That's the truth, so you may now ignore it.

Since you never think for yourself; *who are your peers?

My peers, Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”, are
sane people.

That's FUD-master required of each and every ZNR redneck.

On 6/10/2011 3:37 PM, John Smith wrote:



Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......


Still failing to catch on to the use of a search engine?:


Why would *I* use a search engine in a vain attempt
to vindicate *your* unsupportable position?











--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

On 6/10/2011 4:07 PM, John Smith wrote:


"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
through striving after rational knowledge."

-- above by Albert Einstien

My father always recommended, when you find yourself in a hole, stop
digging! Now would be a good time for you ...


Still, my original question remains... Why do YOU believe
in god and NOT in Tinkerbell?


Clap your ****ing hands, Johnnie-Boy.






--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

On Jun 10, 4:20*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:
On Jun 10, 12:25*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:

On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:
Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?
“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein
John... Do you know what a cite is?
I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?
Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......
Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids *would have been ideal for Hitler or any other
warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.

This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of
military family dysfunctions and suicides. *Way to go, HVAC. *Perhaps
GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and
blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting
off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed.

Wrong newsgroup; alt.rants.free-association.non-sequiturs is
over that way...
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * - McNameless

So your being a ZNR is good for business?

So, if you wrote in a form that English speakers could follow, some people might
engage you in debate.
Why don't you start by setting a good example?

Tell us why someone closely associated with our CIA, Operation 40, and
even well enough known by MI that knew about Operation 40 that took
out JFK?

Are you saying that each and every tidbit of investigative information
from William Mook is bogus?

Are you saying that religion never gets involved with politics?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
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On Jun 10, 4:21*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 2:07 PM, Brad Guth wrote:



Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids

My boys will be thrilled to hear that they're being
referred to as 'killing machines'.

I'll let em know.

would have been ideal for Hitler or any other

Dude... What is it with you and your bromance with Hitler?

warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.

LOL!

How would you and your boys have not qualified for Hitler?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”