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On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:40:24 -0400, the following appeared
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On 6/6/2011 1:02 PM, John Smith wrote:


Nice attempt to waffle (plus interesting snippage of the
context). Do you agree that Einstein wasn't referring to an
actual deity, or not? And do you agree that his use of the
term "ether" (which was the context you snipped) referred to
something other than the sort of physical "ether" refuted by
Michaelson and Morley, or not?


I think Einstein, absolutely, considered a unbelievably intelligent
creator a strong possibility!




Even if I concede that is what Einstein meant, (I don't)
all that does is move the goalpost...Who created the creator?

To me, anyone who is capable of free thought and is intellectually
honest will admit that they just don't know the answer to the question
of what started everything.

To say 'god did it', is just giving up.


Correct. And unlike organized religion, science has no
problem with admitting lack of knowledge, or with research
to discover reality.
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On 6/7/2011 1:33 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:


I think Einstein, absolutely, considered a unbelievably intelligent
creator a strong possibility!




Even if I concede that is what Einstein meant, (I don't)
all that does is move the goalpost...Who created the creator?

To me, anyone who is capable of free thought and is intellectually
honest will admit that they just don't know the answer to the question
of what started everything.

To say 'god did it', is just giving up.


Correct. And unlike organized religion, science has no
problem with admitting lack of knowledge, or with research
to discover reality.




How's that old saying go?
"Science asks questions that may never be answered, religion has answers
that may never be questioned". Ya, that's it.




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On 6/8/2011 2:24 AM, HVAC wrote:

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How's that old saying go?
"Science asks questions that may never be answered, religion has answers
that may never be questioned". Ya, that's it.


Sounds about right, they are of differing purposes, one to deduce and
understand the mind of the creator and the laws he established in the
universe.

The other a set of rules and commandments meant to establish order over
successful societies.

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the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry
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On 2011-06-08 09:12, John Smith wrote:
On 6/8/2011 2:24 AM, HVAC wrote:

...
How's that old saying go?
"Science asks questions that may never be answered, religion has answers
that may never be questioned". Ya, that's it.


Sounds about right, they are of differing purposes, one to deduce and
understand the mind of the creator


Which one? Cthulhu? You'll never understand him, John Smith.
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