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On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:05:28 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John Smith : On 6/6/2011 10:44 AM, Keith Willshaw wrote: John Smith wrote: Nice attempt to waffle (plus interesting snippage of the context). Do you agree that Einstein wasn't referring to an actual deity, or not? And do you agree that his use of the term "ether" (which was the context you snipped) referred to something other than the sort of physical "ether" refuted by Michaelson and Morley, or not? I think Einstein, absolutely, considered a unbelievably intelligent creator a strong possibility! His very words define this ... but, everyone should read them, his words, for themselves, as the notion of "thinking for someone else" is hazardous, at best ... I agree everyone should read his words. Here they are. In 1927 "I cannot conceive of a personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals, or would directly sit in judgment on creatures of his own creation. I cannot do this in spite of the fact that mechanistic causality has, to a certain extent, been placed in doubt by modern science. My religiosity consists in a humble admiration of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in the little that we, with our weak and transitory understanding, can comprehend of reality. Morality is of the highest importance-but for us, not for God. " In 1945 "From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.... I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our being." In 1954 "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. " Shortly before he died "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish." Yes, here you come with your religious obfuscations, beliefs, denials, acceptances, etc., again! He refuted your assertion, which was specifically about Einstein's religious beliefs ("I think Einstein, absolutely, considered a unbelievably intelligent creator a strong possibility!"). And no amount of complaining about it will change that. Deal with it. snip -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
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