On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:20:29 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by John :

On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

Einstein's "gravitational ether" was a metaphor (you can ask
Mommy what that means) and no physical medium is required
for the propagation of EM radiation.

IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.

Yes, your denial of Einstein is obvious, no matter what attempts you
make to obfuscate it and spin it ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

On 6/9/2011 10:47 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Personally, I don't think Buddhism is a religion at all.

Quite a few apparently feel that way, since it doesn't
involve deities.

Personally, I feel that "religion" encompasses any belief
involving spiritualism in any form (i.e., anything for which
belief rather than evidence is basic), and at least one
dictionary definition seems to agree:

"A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the
teachings of a spiritual leader."

Seems specifically appropriate for Buddhism...

“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge
is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
-- Albert Einstein

“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this
or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to
know His thoughts; the rest are

details.” -- Albert Einstein

“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein

If that means you agree with Einstein, then I agree with you ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

On Jun 9, 9:11*am, BDK wrote:
In article 74a0283e-3065-4492-9dd6-8a9c5f196294
@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jun 9, 7:58*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote:

On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote:

Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether
has?

And we don't know what properties your god has.
Coincidence? I think not.
...

You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated
that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of
the universe.

Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?

?That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.? -- Albert Einstein

--

Regards,
JS
?The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it?s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.? -- Patrick Henry

The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy
are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter-
species sexual experimentation.

*http://www.wanttoknow.info/
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?

I don't worship any gods Brad. That's for the weak minded and gullible,
and your fellow Guthballian lunatics.

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But you worship those that do worship gods, and especially of those
public-funded keeping your public-funded quality of life up to snuff,
even though the public money simply isn't there to afford the likes of
yourself and millions of other needing as much or a whole lot more.

If your public funding was cut off, or even reduced by 50%, how long
could you last?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
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Light has Mass and Energy.We are Living Proof of that.
cuhulin

On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Yes, it's quite plain.

Yes, it is!

But, no matter the importance or quantity of the text presented to
attempt to reach you and have you see it, you fail ...

It is your focus on religion and denial of all this is in plain sight
which is your problem. It is your sole intent to take all argument,
discussion, etc. and bend it to prove your beliefs which is the cause of
all fail at ...

It is your refusal to leave this focus which binds you to your failures,
mistakes and errors.

No one is doing anything to you, your attempt to do onto others is what
is harming you.

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

On Jun 9, 10:56*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:









*...
Do you have the faintest idea what you think you're talking
about?

You mean...

I mean exactly what I stated.

I guess you don't...

Dream on ... it is plain to see ...

Your assertion that Einstein professed to believe in a
personal deity, even though he specifically denied it?

Yes, it's quite plain.

My "claim(s)" are these are direct quotes from Einstein:

“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is

revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God.” --
Albert Einstein

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge
is shipwrecked by

the laughter of the gods.” -- Albert Einstein

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
-- Albert Einstein

“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this
or that phenomenon,

in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts;
the rest are

details.” -- Albert Einstein

“When the solution is simple, God is answering.” -- Albert Einstein

But, now, I must further claim your spin tactics are to put words into
others mouths, then claim they are making your supplied "claims", and
claim they are false ...

Further, you attempt to degrade and deny Einstein and his
statements/beliefs in such spin tactics.

That is all which is happening here, that is all which has been
happening since you and your ilk has stuck their religion-focused-arses
into the discussion, before your type came on the scene ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern...nts/vacuum.htm

LHC "Ultrahigh beam vacuum 10-10 Torr (~3 million molecules/cm3) , we
want to avoid collisions with gas molecules"

3e6 molecules/cm3 seems fairly populated, not to mention whatever
photons are involved.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

On 6/9/2011 10:42 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
Yes, it's quite plain.

Yes, it is!

But, no matter the importance or quantity of the text presented to
attempt to reach you and have you see it, you fail ...

It is your focus on religion and denial of all this being is in plain
sight which is your problem. It is your sole intent to take all
argument, discussion, etc. and bend it to prove your beliefs which is
the cause of all which YOU fail at ...

It is your refusal to leave this focus which binds you to your failures,
mistakes and errors.

No one is doing anything to you, your attempt to do onto others is what
is harming you.

QUITE PLAIN! INDEED!

The equivalent of not being able to see the forest, though the fault of
the trees!

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

In article 75d873b5-fb4e-455d-bb01-4dc0b5aa5aa0
@x38g2000pri.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jun 9, 9:11*am, BDK wrote:
In article 74a0283e-3065-4492-9dd6-8a9c5f196294
@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jun 9, 7:58*am, John Smith wrote:
On 6/9/2011 2:47 AM, HVAC wrote:

On 6/8/2011 7:32 PM, John Smith wrote:

Did you just become aware we don't even know what properties the ether
has?

And we don't know what properties your god has.
Coincidence? I think not.
...

You mean, "Einsteins creators' properties", no, Einstein only indicated
that this creator is responsible for the existence, order and laws of
the universe.

Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?

?That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.? -- Albert Einstein

--

Regards,
JS
?The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it?s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.? -- Patrick Henry

The only Gods worshiped by HVAC, Hagar, BDK and their rabbi Saul Levy
are dark and scary, as well as sadistic and perverted, plus into inter-
species sexual experimentation.

*http://www.wanttoknow.info/
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?

I don't worship any gods Brad. That's for the weak minded and gullible,
and your fellow Guthballian lunatics.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

But you worship those that do worship gods, and especially of those
public-funded keeping your public-funded quality of life up to snuff,
even though the public money simply isn't there to afford the likes of
yourself and millions of other needing as much or a whole lot more.

Whatever that means in English, I have no idea...


If your public funding was cut off, or even reduced by 50%, how long
could you last?

What public funding is that Brad? I don't work for any government
agency, so I don't get any public funding I'm aware of.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / ?Guth Usenet?



--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

On Jun 8, 9:32*pm, wrote:
On Jun 9, 12:20*am, John Smith wrote:









On 6/8/2011 9:18 PM, Olrik wrote:

...
You will wait a long time, John Smith.

Meanwhile, John Smith, EM waves still propagate in a vacuum at the speed
of light.

Yep, a vacuum full of gravitational ether, same stuff which conducts
light -- just another form (frequency) of EM ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

There are six (!) theories of the visible light propagation . Can you
name any of them ?

http://lhc-machine-outreach.web.cern...nts/vacuum.htm
LHC "Ultrahigh beam vacuum 10-10 Torr (~3 million molecules/cm3) , we
want to avoid collisions with gas molecules"

3e6 molecules/cm3 seems fairly populated, not to mention whatever
trillions upon trillions upon trillions of mostly invisible photons
are likely involved.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

On 6/9/2011 10:53 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

...
IOW, there's no "stuff"; there's only spacetime shaped by
mass and energy.

A blaring truth can no longer be escaped ...

The most wackiest religious fanatic has more in common with the greatest
thinkers of all time than you, yourself, indeed, than any atheist who
denies a creator.

You have not failed in all your efforts, you have managed to get that to
my attention ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry