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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
Protesters set up camp in Manhattan's Financial District Saturday for
a demonstration stemming from the social networking site "Occupy Wall Street" that aims to last for months. NY1’s Nicole Ward filed the following report. http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stori...street-protest "Lisa Fithian said she's not part of any official group and that the “occupation” of Wall Street is the work of many people coming together with the same message." LIBERAL FASCIST Bull Scheisse! In 2005 and Dec 2008 Lisa Fithian, Root Activist Network of Trainers(2005), Alliance for Community Trainers Inc(2008) was voted onto the Steering Committee for United for Peace and Justice: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=1874 http://www.unitedforpeace.org/articl...t=type&type=16 United for Peace and Justice (UFPJ) http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6166 http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/Uni...ce_and_Justice UFPJ was officially created on October 25, 2002 in the Washington, DC offices of People For the American Way. http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6400 Its initial membership consisted of approximately 70 organizations. Prior to UFPJ's founding, the anti-war movement had earned a reputation as a hodgepodge of radical elements. All the large-scale peace demonstrations to that point had been held under the auspices of International ANSWER, an organization aligned with the Marxist- Leninist Workers World Party; http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6147 Global Exchange, headed by the longtime pro-Castro communist Medea Benjamin; http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6151 and Not In Our Name, http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6163 a project organized by Ramsey Clark http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/in....asp?indid=781 and fellow leaders of the Revolutionary Communist Party. http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/gr...asp?grpid=6197 United For Peace and Justice was created explicitly to put a milder face on the anti-war movement, although from its inception UFPJ shared with the aforementioned groups a passionate hatred for the United States and for capitalism. The Co-Chair and principal leader of UFPJ is Leslie Cagan, http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/in....asp?indid=629 an original founder of the Committees of Correspondence (a remnant organization created by the American Communist Party upon going out of business) and a strong supporter of Fidel Castro since the 1960s; Cagan proudly aligns her politics with those of Communist Cuba. National Organizations Affiliated With United for Peace and Justice http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/UFPJGroups071607.htm GEe, where is Cindy Sheehan and all the Communist anti-war protestors now? http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2031 |
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote:
Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. |
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote:
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass. Since you bring up Hilton, just what do you think she does with her wealth? Do you think it's stashed in a mattress somewhere? No. The dumb blonde is at least intelligent enough to INVEST it. Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. Force people to donate? Thanks for making the previous posters point immaculately. Some things will never change. And you will always be "special" Dave. BTW, it's after 7:00 am here. You better hurry if you want to catch that short bus. |
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
First Post wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass. Since you bring up Hilton, just what do you think she does with her wealth? Do you think it's stashed in a mattress somewhere? No. The dumb blonde is at least intelligent enough to INVEST it. Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. Force people to donate? Thanks for making the previous posters point immaculately. Some things will never change. And you will always be "special" Dave. BTW, it's after 7:00 am here. You better hurry if you want to catch that short bus. Short Bus Dave. I love it! |
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
"First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. |
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:20:07 -0500, First Post wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:48:23 -0500, dave wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 19:19:05 -0700, Well Done wrote: Never more amused than when hare-brained misinformed lefties compare themselve to noble elements from the past. All part of not growing up... but remaing narcissistic, know-nothing, dip****s who think they're entitled to what others have actually earned. Really? Paris Hilton EARNED her money? You could say the same thing [above] about any member of the Lucky Sperm Club. The Founders of the United States did not trust inherited wealth because they know how corrupting a force it was in Old Europe. High taxes force people to invest and donate. Only a very small percentage of the wealthy inherited it dumbass. It's about 1 in 3 billionaires, Sparky. I just thought of her because someone mentioned narcissism. The world financial system is based entirely on "good faith". "Good faith" is a dying concept in the hyper-real world we are waking up in. Investment as practised today is classic parasitism. No value is created except by improving a thing by applying work. Eliminate the middleman. Western Civilization is a Green Zone of cards, and a haboob is a gathering. |
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:
"First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. |
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:17:23 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:
"First Post" wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You haven't been out much lately, have you? Bank savings accounts, and that includes CD's and IRA's, are not an investment. They don't even keep up with rising prices or the devaluation of the dollar. Best I've seen even for an IRA in about two years is around 2.5%. Savings doesn't even make a full percentage point. Interest on a checking account is a joke, and not even a funny one... in the 1/100ths of a percentage point. Most pay between 6 and 25% interest on a credit card, the lucky ones at the lower end. But you can barely earn a small fraction of that on what YOU give to the bank. Banks are starting to charge people to store their money. Negative interest. |
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Communist Party Liberal Fascists to "Occupy Wall Street"
On Sep 19, 6:17*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: "First Post" *wrote in message ... Even if it is sitting in a bank savings account it is invested. Seems one of the problems with the liberal mentality is very few of you financially illiterate doofuses actually know what investing is. Why do so many see the need to swear. It's as if they don't know how to argue a point. Before getting into this I'd like for people to understand the distinction between physical and financial capital. When money is put into a bank and the bank lends it out what they are lending is financial capital. Financial capital is really nothing more than an aggregate of promises. Consider the confederate currency. It had value then it didn't. The value of money is its value in trade. Singer found it chould find people who could afford to pay cash for their sewing machines so they sold them on time. That is they sold them for more money than they cost to build and "lent" money they didn't have but represented value people were willing to "borrow". The created money out of thin air. A couple of decades back the movie "Trading Places" came out. In it two brothers make a bet about the lives of two people. The back drop is the commodity market. As it turns out the brothers were getting an early peak at the orange production report. Getting one's hands on this report would give them an advantage since they could trade on private information before it was anounced to the public. The tables were turned and they lost their ****s. A few decades ago the Hunt brothers tried to corner the silver market. The price shot up from $5 per oz to $50 per oz. Bigger fish restored the market but a lot of minnows were hurt in the process. There is value in use and value in trade. One of these values is internal where the other rests upon markets of aggregate supply and demand and marginal rates. There is a options trading model known as Black-Scholes. One doesn't need to know it inside and out to understand the concepts. The idea is there is a premium for risk taking and that risk can be quantisized. Traders can use this to help them decide if an option is over or under valued. Everyone is susceptible to risk. The poor can lolerate less risk because they can't weather it as well. Retirees who live close to or beyond their ROI can't tolerate much risk. For all the talk about how much better investors the rich are much of it just boils down to being risk tolerant. The cash economy is just above barter. The risk referenced above is one of performance and promise to perform. When people can't tolerate even small risks they trade as close to goods as they can and for the goods they need for current consumption and production. The right wing has no idea of the system of privilege they are promoting. They don't care one whit about rewarding hard work. Instead they want to increase the return to those who find themselves in a position of power that allows them to tolerate risk and make sure hard work is rewarded by a constant pressure of demand approaching the risk free return so the masses have no chance to set aside anything for their future. Like a casino, a few winners are good for the business but most have to lose. |
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