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On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:
Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."


Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting him (is
partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk was a PC ...
and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept. puts them together
... unless the workers have to bring their own! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS


I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with wintel
or Linux desktop boxes. No matter who or how they are built, tiny profits
seem to be the norm. Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. But keep in mind, IBM got out of the
wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP is going to
follow. No profits will do that.


No, IBM got out of the RETAIL computer market. They still provide computers
for the BUSINESS market, and make quite a bit of money doing so.

The problem is the PC market is very competitive and being a name brand just
isn't enough that people will pay lots more money to own inferior hardware.


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On 10/14/11 6:35 PM, Scout wrote:


"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:
Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."

Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any
relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting him (is
partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk was a PC ...
and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept. puts them together
... unless the workers have to bring their own! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS


I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with
wintel or Linux desktop boxes. No matter who or how they are built,
tiny profits seem to be the norm. Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. But keep in mind, IBM got out of
the wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP is
going to follow. No profits will do that.


No, IBM got out of the RETAIL computer market. They still provide
computers for the BUSINESS market, and make quite a bit of money doing so.

No, in fact, IBM does not make any personal computers. They do provide
Lenovo branded computers.

http://www.ibm.com/ibm/us/en/pcannouncement/


The problem is the PC market is very competitive and being a name brand
just isn't enough that people will pay lots more money to own inferior
hardware.

You don't need to tell me how competitive it is, I was in the biz for
over 20 years.

Your statement would ring truer if Apple wasn't able to sell upscale
computers at premium prices. Hell, they sell everything at premium
prices and make a hell of a big profit margin on all of it.



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"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/14/11 6:35 PM, Scout wrote:


"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:
Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."

Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any
relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting him (is
partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk was a PC ...
and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept. puts them
together
... unless the workers have to bring their own! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with
wintel or Linux desktop boxes. No matter who or how they are built,
tiny profits seem to be the norm. Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. But keep in mind, IBM got out of
the wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP is
going to follow. No profits will do that.


No, IBM got out of the RETAIL computer market. They still provide
computers for the BUSINESS market, and make quite a bit of money doing
so.

No, in fact, IBM does not make any personal computers. They do provide
Lenovo branded computers.

http://www.ibm.com/ibm/us/en/pcannouncement/


Hate tell you this....but nothing you said contradicts me in the least.

The problem is the PC market is very competitive and being a name brand
just isn't enough that people will pay lots more money to own inferior
hardware.

You don't need to tell me how competitive it is, I was in the biz for over
20 years.

Your statement would ring truer if Apple wasn't able to sell upscale
computers at premium prices. Hell, they sell everything at premium prices
and make a hell of a big profit margin on all of it.


Yep, it's a small nitch market among a following of people sold on the
brand.

That doesn't happen in the PC market because the O/S isn't brand specific.


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"Scout" wrote in
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"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/11 6:35 PM, Scout wrote:


"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:
Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the
MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."

Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any
relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting
him (is partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk
was a PC ... and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept.
puts them together
... unless the workers have to bring their own! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with
wintel or Linux desktop boxes. No matter who or how they are built,
tiny profits seem to be the norm. Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. But keep in mind, IBM got out
of the wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP
is going to follow. No profits will do that.

No, IBM got out of the RETAIL computer market. They still provide
computers for the BUSINESS market, and make quite a bit of money
doing so.

No, in fact, IBM does not make any personal computers. They do
provide Lenovo branded computers.

http://www.ibm.com/ibm/us/en/pcannouncement/


Hate tell you this....but nothing you said contradicts me in the
least.

The problem is the PC market is very competitive and being a name
brand just isn't enough that people will pay lots more money to own
inferior hardware.

You don't need to tell me how competitive it is, I was in the biz for
over 20 years.

Your statement would ring truer if Apple wasn't able to sell upscale
computers at premium prices. Hell, they sell everything at premium
prices and make a hell of a big profit margin on all of it.


Yep, it's a small nitch market among a following of people sold on the
brand.

That doesn't happen in the PC market because the O/S isn't brand
specific.


At one point it was....although it was a joint development effort with
MS.

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Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....


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Lloyd E Parsons wrote in
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On 10/14/11 6:35 PM, Scout wrote:


"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:
Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."

Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any
relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting him
(is partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk was a
PC ... and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept. puts
them together ... unless the workers have to bring their own!
ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with
wintel or Linux desktop boxes. No matter who or how they are built,
tiny profits seem to be the norm. Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. But keep in mind, IBM got out of
the wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP is
going to follow. No profits will do that.


No, IBM got out of the RETAIL computer market. They still provide
computers for the BUSINESS market, and make quite a bit of money
doing so.

No, in fact, IBM does not make any personal computers. They do
provide Lenovo branded computers.

http://www.ibm.com/ibm/us/en/pcannouncement/


Which came about when IBM added to its laptop development venture in the
early 90s with Legend out of China who made some of its components. In
the mid-90s development moved from Boca Raton, FL to Raleigh, NC. In the
early 2000s, the Lenovo name was introduced although it had been in
internal use for some time. In 2004 IBM announced that Lenovo would take
over IBM's PC Division.

Yes, IBM still produces computers, but not laptops or PCs. They
concentrate on the "BIG" market.

The problem is the PC market is very competitive and being a name
brand just isn't enough that people will pay lots more money to own
inferior hardware.

You don't need to tell me how competitive it is, I was in the biz for
over 20 years.

Your statement would ring truer if Apple wasn't able to sell upscale
computers at premium prices. Hell, they sell everything at premium
prices and make a hell of a big profit margin on all of it.


Yes, they do........of which part of that goes to why they are a much
smaller (although wildly devoted) segment of the industry.


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Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....
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"Scout" wrote in
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"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
...
On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:
Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."

Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any
relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting him
(is partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk was a
PC ... and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept. puts
them together ... unless the workers have to bring their own!
ROFLOL

Regards,
JS


I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with
wintel or Linux desktop boxes. No matter who or how they are built,
tiny profits seem to be the norm. Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. But keep in mind, IBM got out of
the wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP is
going to follow. No profits will do that.


No, IBM got out of the RETAIL computer market. They still provide
computers for the BUSINESS market, and make quite a bit of money doing
so.

The problem is the PC market is very competitive and being a name
brand just isn't enough that people will pay lots more money to own
inferior hardware.



What were the IBM laptops are now manufactured and marketed by and under
the name Lenovo.

--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....
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