"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 11/4/2011 9:05 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:

"John Smith" wrote in message
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There is no choice ... without fair wages, we will soon look like
ethopia. In case you haven't noticed, we have made some serious
inroads to there already ... homeless, 1 out of every 6 on food
stamps, printing worthless dollars backed by air, etc.

Sit back, this will only get better, or worse ... and I ain't bettin'
on better!


So who decides what a "fair wage" actually is ?
The so-called minimum wage laws are based on the notion that there
should be a "fair" minimum wage.
And yet minimum wage laws are a prime cause of joblessness at the low
end of the scale of employees
And it also does nothing from stopping people paying less than that
legally defined "minimum wage".



True, you ask a slave owner what a fair wage is and the response is a lot
different than a guy attempting to support a home, car, insurances,
clothing, food, medical, retirement fund, etc.


Well, to do that, asking a slave-owner, you'll have to go to an Arab country
where they still have slaves.
But thank you, for demonstrating such abyssal stupidity as to imagine that
such a strawman would apply in the western world.



Still, most would not have much difficulty telling which is the more
correct opinion ... if push ever came to shove, they could always get a
job and it would become immediately apparent, as to what a "fair wage"
is!!!


You still are too stupid to get it.
A "fair wage" is a wage that both the employer and employee agree upon as
being fair", OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL..
Anything else is BULL**** for useful idiots..


I remember being shocked to find out some are in their 40s, 50s, even 60s
and have never held a steady job ... well, unless unlicensed pharmacist,
gangster, crook, politician, fraud artist, con man, etc. qualifies them
...

thrown up at his seat just before collapsing, rolled his head to the left,
and was clearly fainting before being helped to the floor, actual moment of
puke was only shown once on US television, Bush recovering from having
emptied his stomach contents
falling violently ill at a state dinner in Japan, vomiting into the lap of
Prime Minister, while Barbara Bush wiped the president's face.

On 11/8/2011 9:24 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:


True, you ask a slave owner what a fair wage is and the response is a
lot different than a guy attempting to support a home, car,
insurances, clothing, food, medical, retirement fund, etc.


Well, to do that, asking a slave-owner, you'll have to go to an Arab
country where they still have slaves.
But thank you, for demonstrating such abyssal stupidity as to imagine
that such a strawman would apply in the western world.


That statement is simply your declaration that you consider Americans to
be too stupid to recognize that they are slaves. Since, a slave
generally has his basic needs met adequately. A slave is well fed,
starving slaves don't produce well to make their masters a profit.
Slaves are generally provided adequate housing, medical and clothes -- a
sick, tired, ill, worn out, deprived slave is, again, generally a poor
producer and cannot make his masters the profit they desire ... to make
a long story short, if you are working at minimum wage, or even double,
you are already a slave ... giving that a little thought will make it
quite obvious, to those possessing sufficient gray matter.



Still, most would not have much difficulty telling which is the more
correct opinion ... if push ever came to shove, they could always get
a job and it would become immediately apparent, as to what a "fair
wage" is!!!


You still are too stupid to get it.
A "fair wage" is a wage that both the employer and employee agree upon
as being fair", OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL..
Anything else is BULL**** for useful idiots..


When starving people from mexico and other countries are allowed to
stream across our borders as hostile invaders, it skews any sense of
fairness ... when Americans are forced to compete with starving slaves
from other countries, or even those living in china, they are simply
reduce to the same ... slaves.


I remember being shocked to find out some are in their 40s, 50s, even
60s and have never held a steady job ... well, unless unlicensed
pharmacist, gangster, crook, politician, fraud artist, con man, etc.
qualifies them ...



I'd say your text is a very good example of your intelligence ...
indeed, little anyone could add which you have not already demonstrated
in that direction! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

"John Smith" wrote in message
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On 11/8/2011 9:24 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:


True, you ask a slave owner what a fair wage is and the response is a
lot different than a guy attempting to support a home, car,
insurances, clothing, food, medical, retirement fund, etc.


Well, to do that, asking a slave-owner, you'll have to go to an Arab
country where they still have slaves.
But thank you, for demonstrating such abyssal stupidity as to imagine
that such a strawman would apply in the western world.


That statement is simply your declaration that you consider Americans to
be too stupid to recognize that they are slaves.

I'll stop you right there with your strawman
Wheb idiots need to resort to strawman arguments, it's a clear admission
that they can NOT argue the inssue intelligently

SO I'll stop wasting more time on you
HAve a nice day (wanking), you stupid ******
..

President Bush fell ill at a banquet during a trip to Japan and vomited on
Kiichi Miyazawa The prime minister cradled the head of the president in his
lap afterward while Barbara Bush wiped the president's face.

On 11/9/11 1:37 AM, John Smith wrote:
When starving people from mexico and other countries are allowed to
stream across our borders as hostile invaders, it skews any sense of
fairness ... when Americans are forced to compete with starving slaves
from other countries, or even those living in china, they are simply
reduce to the same ... slaves.


We must have funny ideas about the word "fair". I suppose the Koch
brothers believe it is fair to inherit enough money to buy the U.S.
government.

I am very fortunate to be born in a wealthy country - but that isn't
because I deserved to be born here, and that it is unfair for others to
come here.

Now, there are reasons to stop them from coming - but "fair" isn't one
of those reasons.

Howard Brazee
On 11/9/11 1:37 AM, John Smith wrote:
When starving people from mexico and other countries are allowed to
stream across our borders as hostile invaders, it skews any sense of
fairness ... when Americans are forced to compete with starving slaves
from other countries, or even those living in china, they are simply
reduce to the same ... slaves.


We must have funny ideas about the word "fair". I suppose the Koch
brothers believe it is fair to inherit enough money to buy the U.S.
government.

I am very fortunate to be born in a wealthy country - but that isn't
because I deserved to be born here, and that it is unfair for others to
come here.

Now, there are reasons to stop them from coming - but "fair" isn't one
of those reasons.


Were it that Man were free from other men
he would realize that he has a great deal of
Value in peaceful existance and trade with his fellows.
A free and productive people have nothing to gain from
WAR and in fact a great deal to lose.

Were it that we were to allow Civilization
to Free Man from other men we would face
our fellows not with fear but esteem in
the knowing that we could expect from
them, exactly what they expect of us.

Were it that we could finally and summarily defeat
the LIB Strategic Insanity that has gripped the
world for the past two decades, GOOD MEN
would have the opportunity to rebuild
from the rubble rather than allowing
Shameless LIB Politico's to reign
over the ruins....


LIBs. What PRICE their Vision.
---
Pitting Man against other men until we exist no more.
A Ceaseless Quest for the unearned which will leave
this planet as lifeless and useless as Mars.


Value is what one works in life to create;
Virtue is the quality which one uses to create it
LIBs seek to first deprive you of your Virtue, and then your very LIFE.


DESERVE PEACE.
DESERVE FREEDOM.
DEMAND COMPETANCE.
DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY.
DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY. IMPEACH OBAMA.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...ugged-and-ayn-
rand-predict-america-spinning-out-control/
How Did Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'
Predict an America Spinning Out of Control?


How could she have painted villains who seem ripped from today’s
headlines?

There’s Wesley Mouch, who in the face of failed government programs
screams like Rep. Barney Frank (D) of Massachusetts for wider powers.

There’s Eugene Lawson, “the banker with a heart,” who like former Treasury
Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is ever
ready with a bailout.

There’s Mr. Thompson, who like President Obama seeks to rally the country
behind pious platitudes.

There’s Orren Boyle, who like President Bush says that we must abandon
free-market principles to save the free market.

"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
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On 11/9/11 1:37 AM, John Smith wrote:
When starving people from mexico and other countries are allowed to
stream across our borders as hostile invaders, it skews any sense of
fairness ... when Americans are forced to compete with starving slaves
from other countries, or even those living in china, they are simply
reduce to the same ... slaves.


We must have funny ideas about the word "fair". I suppose the Koch
brothers believe it is fair to inherit enough money to buy the U.S.
government.


LOL
Now when did they do that ???
I would suspect that Soros did more to "buy the country" than the Koch
brothers ever did.


I am very fortunate to be born in a wealthy country - but that isn't
because I deserved to be born here, and that it is unfair for others to
come here.

Now, there are reasons to stop them from coming - but "fair" isn't one of
those reasons.

LOL
Fair is protecting this country from an invasion that will destroy it by the
time you kids and grandkids grow up..
But then, you are clueless about the word fair.
Maybe you should use the word moral
Because often what is moral is not fair..
But then life in general is not fair...

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 05:12:13 +0000, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

COMPETANCE.

You misspelled "competence" idiot.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:01:59 -0600, SaPeIsMa wrote:

"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
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On 11/9/11 1:37 AM, John Smith wrote:
When starving people from mexico and other countries are allowed to
stream across our borders as hostile invaders, it skews any sense of
fairness ... when Americans are forced to compete with starving slaves
from other countries, or even those living in china, they are simply
reduce to the same ... slaves.


We must have funny ideas about the word "fair". I suppose the Koch
brothers believe it is fair to inherit enough money to buy the U.S.
government.


LOL
Now when did they do that ???
I would suspect that Soros did more to "buy the country" than the Koch
brothers ever did.

That's because you watch TV and listen to AM radio; you would be wrong.