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The evil is a bit more hidden that what you see there, on the surface.

Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to replace the old.
The costs in resources, energy, oil, creation of pollution/toxins, dumps
fill with obnoxious wastes, etc. is slowly poisoning not only all of us,
but the whole planet.

The impetus should be placed on strong, durable, long lasting products, if
possible, possessions which will last a lifetime, or even be handed down.
The benefits in cost, heath and happiness would be astounding ...

Instead, we are a bunch of "moronic consumers." Trained to buy products
which wear our quickly, so we will consume more ... etc., the cycle is a
very vicious one. Not only depriving us of wealth and happiness, but even
our health and life.

To turn this absurdity of "consumerism" around, at this point, looks like
a monumental task bordering on the line of impossible!

Indeed, laws are constructed to aid in the filling of dumps, and for
questionable reasons and refusal to debate other alternatives ...

Regards,
JS


It was hard rubbish collection time in our suburb this week.

The verges were lined with working TVs - everyone has upgraded to cheap
LCD/Plasma. The other things that stuck out were hooded BBQ's. Almost every
third or fourth house had one out the front. Cheap chinese crap rusting
away, most only a year or two old. At between $200 and $400 each its a
disgusting waste of money & resources.

Dennis expounded in
:

Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to
replace the old. ...

It was hard rubbish collection time in our suburb this
week.

.. The other things that stuck
out were hooded BBQ's. Almost every third or fourth house
had one out the front. Cheap chinese crap rusting away,
most only a year or two old. At between $200 and $400 each
its a disgusting waste of money & resources.

When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it
from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan
on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no
honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end
up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in
the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you
can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she
wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the
effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old
one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it
smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on
it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$

Warren

Warren wrote:
When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it
from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan
on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no
honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end
up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in
the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you
can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

Or use a 2 second blast from the air compressor.


My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she
wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the
effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old
one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

Because the new one will last half as long?


I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it
smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on
it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$


Not me, but then, that allowed me to retire early.

Bob F expounded in :

Warren wrote:
When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to
replace it from time to time. I never spend big bux on one
because I plan on replacing it every few years anyway. So
I don't need no honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start
with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you
end up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator
for it in the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter).
But when you can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

Or use a 2 second blast from the air compressor.

All kinds of nasty things happen to a bbq carbourator over a
cdn winter. Believe me, if only it were that simple...

My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if
she wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to
the effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the
crummy old one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

Because the new one will last half as long?

For toasters, I'm with her on this one. Do you think that
protection plan will make your toaster last longer?

I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if
it smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's
germs on it" (used), then I've come to know where that is
headed. $$


Not me, but then, that allowed me to retire early.

Either you have a "optimum wife" or you're single. ;-)

Warren

Get some concrete blocks, lay them on the ground the way you want
them.Lay something on the top of the blocks for a grill, slap some paint
on the blocks.That BBQ thangy will last a lonnnnnng time.

I am going to Carl's sheet metal shop on Gallatin Street tomorrow
morning and buy a large piece of sheet metal for something I am working
on, I won't tell y'all what it is though, it is Top Secret.It isn't
anything that would interest y'all all that much anyway.
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Carl's+Sheet+Metal+Shop+Gallatin+Street +Jackson+Mississippi
cuhulin, Sheet Metal R US

On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:23:22 -0500, J R wrote:

Get some concrete blocks, lay them on the ground the way you want
them.Lay something on the top of the blocks for a grill, slap some paint
on the blocks.That BBQ thangy will last a lonnnnnng time.

I am going to Carl's sheet metal shop on Gallatin Street tomorrow
morning and buy a large piece of sheet metal for something I am working
on, I won't tell y'all what it is though, it is Top Secret.It isn't
anything that would interest y'all all that much anyway.
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Carl's+Sheet+Metal+Shop+Gallatin
+Street+Jackson+Mississippi
cuhulin, Sheet Metal R US

Let me guess; you're going to cover your floor furnace?

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Optical Furnace, sumpin like dat.
cuhulin

That guy on the phone at Carl's Sheet Metal Shop, he quoted me a price
of about $300.00 for that piece of sheet metal.

///Sheet! Mope!///

You got that right, Sang, I reckon I will be checkin out the scrap iron
yards around here.
cuhulin