"linnix" wrote in message
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Why didn't you buy a Honda generator?

Do they have NG generator? Links? I will need a replacement.

Not that I know of, but there are options:

1) This company will sell you a conversion kit:
http://www.propane-generators.com/honda-generators.htm . If you don't feel like
taking on that project, they will sell you a brand new already-converted Yamaha
unit with a factory warranty. I love Honda generators, but think that Yamaha
generators are at least as good as Honda. My little bit of experience with that
company has been good.

2) A Google search will find companies that who sell you a Honda-POWERED natural
gas generator. Caveat emptor.

Vaughn

m II wrote:

I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with
'Stupid'.


designed in the western hemisphere, made in china ...

who asked low price stuff?



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"linnix" wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 10:58 am, Spehro Pefhany
But i want to run on NG. I paid $1700 for the Generac 8KW. Are there
conversion kits for NG?

http://www.propane-generators.com/honda-generators.htm

Vaughn

On Oct 29, 1:12*am, RHF wrote:
On Oct 28, 10:58*am, Spehro Pefhany





wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:37:50 -0700 (PDT), linnix

wrote:
On Oct 27, 6:30*pm, m II wrote:
I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.

This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
(Launtop powered):

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg

The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.

This is the reason why the starter wouldn't crank the engine over:

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-2.jpg

I'm lucky the broken piece didn't get caught in the flywheel ring gear.

This is from the socket set I used to remove the battery terminal lug
nuts with.

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-3.jpg

Care to guess where they were made?

This particular model of Launtop generator is sold under dozens of
different names. There has been a recall on them. They have counterfeit
ISO 2001, CE and Canadian Standards Association (like UL) decals on them.

The breakers are also improperly marked. The Canadian Standards people
are doing NOTHING to help me, despite the fraudulent use of their
Trademarked logo. Launtop is also doing nothing. Red maple seems to be
conveniently out of business.

http://tinyurl.com/6zrfft

Don't buy Chinese.

or American

Sound like the same problem with my WI made GenXXX standby generator.
I haven't open it up yet, The rotor lock up, perhaps by the starter.

Where are the Germans and Japaneses?

Honda is pretty good, but you're going to pay more. A good Honda 4000W
generator is maybe $2,200 vs. Harbor Fright's $339 for 3500W and $499
for 5,500W. "Sportsman" has a 4000W one for $329.

Residential Standby Generators
Rated 200 AMP Whole House

They are Generac reseller. These are for standby only. Don't ever
try to use them, stupid (customers).

Funny math and science:

Greek: 50% default is not a default. We can cut another 50% of the
remaining debts, and do it again and again, etc.

French: China will give us 100B, we can increase it with deflector
shields and reflective multipler by 100x. It's not smoke and mirror.
World debt problems are over.

Germany: We can pull in several more China from other Universes.
Problem solved.

Generac: There are less than 200 hours in a two-years (730 days)
warranty.

You already have a walk behind lawn mower, don't you? Rig a V belt
pulley on the engine shaft and a piece of angle iron to mount a junk
yard alternator, one or two 12 Volt batteries and an Inverter.You can
have 12 Volt D C power and 115 Volts A C power.Some walk behind lawn
mowers have a 6.5 horsepower engine.I have one, actually I have two walk
behind lawn mowers.That damn ethanol gas screwed one of them up, I will
fix it someday.Winter time is a good time to check the pawn shops for a
good used walk behind lawn mower.
cuhulin

On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:15:01 -0700 (PDT), linnix
wrote:

On Oct 28, 5:39*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 10/27/11 20:30 , m II wrote:







I've had it with Chinese garbage. The amount of trash they produce each
year staggers the imagination. What's even more amazing is that we
continue to buy it. 'Customer' is quickly becoming synonymous with 'Stupid'.

This is the starter solenoid from a 5kw Chinese diesel generator
(Launtop powered):

http://www.scotiabunk.com/Quality/small-1.jpg

The machine has two hours TOTAL running time. Note the quality rubber
boot. Also note the soldered connections. Those are the solenoid winding
terminations. You can NOT get at the contacts until you de-solder the
wires. I learned that when I had to clean the non-conducting starter
contacts on another, similar, Launtop machine.

* *Yeah, I had a generator, this summer, throw a rod through the
garage wall. The finest Chinese machine work you'd ever like to see
punch a hole in a building.

* *Went with a Generac from Whitewater, Wisconsin.-

The same company who made the generator that failed after 5 months.
They won't honor the two years warrenty because i am over-using it
(200 hours). It's a standby generator, i am not suppose to use it,
stupid.

That's nothing.. I had a friend two blocks over.. newly installed
Generac standby. (propane).. throw a rod after operating for a just
few hours during Hurricane Wilma. It took them 8 days to get a
replacement motor. (their power was out for ~16 days)..


Meanwhile, My 2200 RPM 2.5Kw Diesel.. ran for 10(5 in am, 5 in pm)
hours a day for 13 days, no problem, finally used up most of my 6 year
old diesel fuel(~18 gallons).


By the way, should I sue a WI company in Federal court? I don't think
they registered in CA.

Dennis expounded in
:

Planned obsolescence causes you to purchase new items to
replace the old. ...

It was hard rubbish collection time in our suburb this
week.

.. The other things that stuck
out were hooded BBQ's. Almost every third or fourth house
had one out the front. Cheap chinese crap rusting away,
most only a year or two old. At between $200 and $400 each
its a disgusting waste of money & resources.

When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it
from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan
on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no
honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end
up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in
the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you
can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she
wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the
effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old
one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it
smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on
it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$

Warren

Nico Coesel expounded in :

...
The most interesting fact is that everything is made in
China these days. That Yamaha generator is also made in
China but Yamaha is probably on top of quality control. The
same generators are probably sold under many different
brands with lesser components.

My wife bought me a golf shirt on sale shortly after I got my
gieger counter from eBay (a couple of years ago). For kicks I
measured it and found that it registered on avg a bit higher
than the background levels around our place.

Many washes later, it has returned to background levels.

The level was not high enough to worry about, but was one of
those things that make you go hmmmm... I think the shirt was
made in Korea.

Warren

Warren wrote:
When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to replace it
from time to time. I never spend big bux on one because I plan
on replacing it every few years anyway. So I don't need no
honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you end
up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator for it in
the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter). But when you
can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

Or use a 2 second blast from the air compressor.


My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if she
wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to the
effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the crummy old
one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

Because the new one will last half as long?


I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if it
smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's germs on
it" (used), then I've come to know where that is headed. $$


Not me, but then, that allowed me to retire early.

Bob F expounded in :

Warren wrote:
When it comes to BBQs, I can understand the need to
replace it from time to time. I never spend big bux on one
because I plan on replacing it every few years anyway. So
I don't need no honkin' Binford-5000 deluxo-bbq to start
with.

Who wants a fixed dirty old and rusting BBQ? Usually you
end up having to spend $50 on a replacement carbourator
for it in the spring (bugs like to get in it over winter).
But when you can get a new one for $50 more (or less)?

Or use a 2 second blast from the air compressor.

All kinds of nasty things happen to a bbq carbourator over a
cdn winter. Believe me, if only it were that simple...

My wife once bought a toaster when the cashier asked if
she wanted a protection plan for it. She said something to
the effect "Are you kidding me?!?! Why would I want the
crummy old one fixed? I'd rather get a new [clean] one!"

Because the new one will last half as long?

For toasters, I'm with her on this one. Do you think that
protection plan will make your toaster last longer?

I'm inclined to keep things more than my wife does. But if
it smacks of needing cleaning or has "somebody else's
germs on it" (used), then I've come to know where that is
headed. $$


Not me, but then, that allowed me to retire early.

Either you have a "optimum wife" or you're single. ;-)

Warren