On 11/17/2011 2:23 AM, John Smith wrote:
[...]

You might have a different opinion if you were burglarized and all
your stuff was sold by 'private transactions' through a second hand
dealer front man.

Btw, the information only becomes available to the police in the
event
of a criminal investigation and it's only that transaction. There is
no routine 'reporting to the government'.

Isn't that the reason we initially hired "cops" for? I mean, I
realize they are no longer doing a job for the people, the citizens
-- and are mostly revenue generators for the town, city, county,
state, feds, etc. But, really, watching every dollar trade hands is
NOT what we have public servants and authorities for, we don't have
them to "punish" us ... we simply need to remind them to do the
original job they were created for and the things you mention are
already taken care of ... let's just get the public servants and
cops to do the job for the people.

Regards,
JS




I agree, John. The purpose of the Constitution is not to help the
police.

If limiting government knowledge of my private transactions to zero
-- except in the case of a properly obtained and strictly limited
warrant -- slows down the police a little bit, well, that's just the
way it will have to be. Tough luck if a few crimes aren't solved as
fast. The greatest crime of all, the theft of our freedom, would
stop -- and that's _far_ more important than getting your BMW back,
or reducing the goddamned deficit.

Of course, restoring our privacy would also entail an instant and
total end to the income tax, since no entity would have any right
whatsoever to know what your income even was, much less tax it.
Yessiree Bob!


Esse quam videre,



Kevin Alfred Strom.
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http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On 11/17/2011 10:05 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 11/17/2011 2:23 AM, John Smith wrote:
[...]

You might have a different opinion if you were burglarized and all
your stuff was sold by 'private transactions' through a second hand
dealer front man.

Btw, the information only becomes available to the police in the
event
of a criminal investigation and it's only that transaction. There is
no routine 'reporting to the government'.

Isn't that the reason we initially hired "cops" for? I mean, I
realize they are no longer doing a job for the people, the citizens
-- and are mostly revenue generators for the town, city, county,
state, feds, etc. But, really, watching every dollar trade hands is
NOT what we have public servants and authorities for, we don't have
them to "punish" us ... we simply need to remind them to do the
original job they were created for and the things you mention are
already taken care of ... let's just get the public servants and
cops to do the job for the people.

Regards,
JS




I agree, John. The purpose of the Constitution is not to help the police.

If limiting government knowledge of my private transactions to zero --
except in the case of a properly obtained and strictly limited warrant
-- slows down the police a little bit, well, that's just the way it will
have to be. Tough luck if a few crimes aren't solved as fast. The
greatest crime of all, the theft of our freedom, would stop -- and
that's _far_ more important than getting your BMW back, or reducing the
goddamned deficit.

Of course, restoring our privacy would also entail an instant and total
end to the income tax, since no entity would have any right whatsoever
to know what your income even was, much less tax it. Yessiree Bob!


Esse quam videre,



Kevin Alfred Strom.

Quite so. And, take the sports out of the schools, the art out of
public projects, the perks out of public servant benefits, the special
interest grants, the gay grants, the womens' grants, etc, etc, etc.

Schools are for learning, public buildings are for absolute necessary
business of the people, etc.

I am for the govt getting a flat 10% of your net earnings and that is it
.... whatever we can't afford on that, too bad. But, one thing we need
to do is bring all the public servant and govt workers, be that fed,
state, county, city or town, pay into correct equivalency to the private
sector pay ... and cut a million other unnecessary govt expenditures and
funding ... there will be plenty of money, long as they support
Americans with jobs and an acceptable standard of living ... as it
stands now, with income tax, property tax, sales tax, fees and fines,
hidden taxes, gasoline taxes, etc., somewhere between 50% and 60% of
your income is going to the government in taxes -- some of these taxes
are just known by other names.

Take a hard look at how they have bent and warped the Constitution, laws
and systems, we are now simply paying them for the privilege of being
slaves to them.

It would be nice to have a nice "pirate SW station" discussing some of
this ... grin

Regards,
JS