On Jan 11, 7:29*pm, SMS wrote:

IBOC is a temporary compromise. Eventually analog will be turned off and
HD Radio will be all digital.

That will never happen.

If broadcast radio ever goes all digital, it'll be a completely
different digital system then ibiquity's crapola.

On Jan 11, 9:32*pm, Kimmi wrote:
On Jan 11, 7:29*pm, SMS wrote:



IBOC is a temporary compromise. Eventually analog will be turned off and
HD Radio will be all digital.

- That will never happen.

Oops Yes It Can 'Happen'
-follow-the-nab-&-fcc-2-decade-iboc-plan-

- If broadcast radio ever goes all digital,
- it'll be a completely different digital system
- then ibiquity's crapola.

Not for the next 1+ decades... -so- For Now
until ~2020 IBOC is what you got in the USA.

First 1% : Then 10% and At 20% the IBOC 'Digital'
Signal will in most cases be superior to the former
100% 'Analog' Signal of most FM Radio Stations in
their 'Defined' Service Areas. -game-over-

Followed by a IBOC "Digital' Signal Boost to ~40%
with the Analog Signal turned 'OFF' ~2020.
-follow-the-nab-&-fcc-2-decade-iboc-plan-

OBTW : IBOC is all about FM Radio Broadcasting
and AM/MW Radio will be on life-support or die
for the future with or with-out IBOC
-actually-ibco-will-drive-more-am/mw-radio-listeners-to-
-fm-radio-and-the-nab-&-fcc-see-that-as-a-good-thing-
*The*Future*of*Terrestrial*Radio*is*FM*Radio*

On Wednesday, January 11th, 2012, at 21:32:16h -0800, Kimmi wrote:

If broadcast radio ever goes all digital, it'll be a completely
different digital system then ibiquity's crapola.

Looking more and more like MP3 or AAC (or some future codec)
over Internet streams ...

Big businesses also favor this because it means that instead of
people listening for free to the public airwaves because they
can charge for every kilobyte received regardless of the content.

Remember, monetizing whatever was formerly available for free
is one of the central features of capitalism.

On 1/12/12 10:40 , J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11th, 2012, at 21:32:16h -0800, Kimmi wrote:

If broadcast radio ever goes all digital, it'll be a completely
different digital system then ibiquity's crapola.

Looking more and more like MP3 or AAC (or some future codec)
over Internet streams ...

Big businesses also favor this because it means that instead of
people listening for free to the public airwaves because they
can charge for every kilobyte received regardless of the content.

Remember, monetizing whatever was formerly available for free
is one of the central features of capitalism.

Ironically, broadcasters are the most frequently guilty of attempting
not to pay for the products they use to make their money.

On 1/12/2012 8:40 AM, J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11th, 2012, at 21:32:16h -0800, Kimmi wrote:

If broadcast radio ever goes all digital, it'll be a completely
different digital system then ibiquity's crapola.

Looking more and more like MP3 or AAC (or some future codec)
over Internet streams ...

Broadcast radio station owners are living in a dream world if they think
listeners are going to put up with commercials and use their metered
smart phone data to listen to the radio.

If people pay for each kb of data then they'll subscribe to the paid
version of a Pandora-like service.

Remember, monetizing whatever was formerly available for free
is one of the central features of capitalism.

Well to be fair, radio isn't really free, it's paid for by advertising.
Nor has wireless bandwidth been free, it was just originally "too cheap
to meter" at least for what most users were able to consume.

Broadcast radio station owners should be thrilled that most of the
wireless companies are not offering unlimited data any more, and that
the ones that are prohibit streaming. This highlights broadcast radio's
value advantage.

On 1/12/12 12:01 , SMS wrote:
On 1/12/2012 8:40 AM, J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11th, 2012, at 21:32:16h -0800, Kimmi wrote:

If broadcast radio ever goes all digital, it'll be a completely
different digital system then ibiquity's crapola.

Looking more and more like MP3 or AAC (or some future codec)
over Internet streams ...

Broadcast radio station owners are living in a dream world if they think
listeners are going to put up with commercials and use their metered
smart phone data to listen to the radio.


And yet, it happens every day. Not all data plans are as metered as
you think. And many smartphones have wi-fi provisions, so a local
network may be accessed. Couple that with spreading of community wi-fi
networks that are free for access, a good number of listeners do exactly
what you deny: they're putting up with commercials while listening on
their smartphones.



If people pay for each kb of data then they'll subscribe to the paid
version of a Pandora-like service.

Also, not true. For the reasons above.



Remember, monetizing whatever was formerly available for free
is one of the central features of capitalism.

Well to be fair, radio isn't really free, it's paid for by advertising.
Nor has wireless bandwidth been free, it was just originally "too cheap
to meter" at least for what most users were able to consume.

Broadcast radio station owners should be thrilled that most of the
wireless companies are not offering unlimited data any more, and that
the ones that are prohibit streaming


Also, not true. I can stream at will on my unlimited plan for my iPhone.