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Default Fox News 2012: HD Radio one of "The Biggest CES Flops of All Time" LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

"The Biggest CES Flops of All Time"

"2003 -- HD Radio: Dubbed the "next great thing" in free broadcast
radio, HD radio offered digital CD-quality sound but poor marketing
and manufacturing costs meant this would always remain a pipe dream
for the masses."

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/sci...=faces#slide=8

Hey, Struble - ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On Jan 6, 4:12*pm, HDRadioFarce wrote:
"The Biggest CES Flops of All Time"

"2003 -- HD Radio: Dubbed the "next great thing" in free broadcast
radio, HD radio offered digital CD-quality sound but poor marketing
and manufacturing costs meant this would always remain a pipe dream
for the masses."

http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/sci...gest-ces-flops...

Hey, Struble - ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Have a 'HD-Radio" New Year 'HDRadioFarce' ;;-}}

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On Jan 6, 6:12*pm, HDRadioFarce wrote:
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So when is the experiment finally going to OFFICIALLY be declared a
failure and cease to exist? When are ALL station managers throughout
the nation going to stop broadcasting in HD? We've been reading what a
disaster it is for years but it still hasn't gone away. Why?

I still can't listen to 1120 (KMOX), 840 (WHAS), et.al. because the
HASH is so intrusive. Even to the point of interfering with adjacent
stations on the dial. Don't the decision makers realize they are
driving away listeners in droves? As if the internet hasn't depleted
their audiences enough they have to throw gas on the fire to hasten
their demise. It appears to be a terminal case of falling in love with
your toys coupled with an inability to acknowledge one's mistake.

"Pride goeth before destruction,
and a haughty spirit before a fall."
Proverbs 16:18
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On 07/01/2012 00:12, HDRadioFarce wrote:
"The Biggest CES Flops of All Time"

"2003 -- HD Radio: Dubbed the "next great thing" in free broadcast
radio, HD radio offered digital CD-quality sound but poor marketing
and manufacturing costs meant this would always remain a pipe dream
for the masses."


CD-Quality sound. That sounds like the same nonsense we had with DAB
advertising.

Surely it is technically impossible for HD radio to provide CD quality
sound. (DAB could technically provide near CD quality sound, but here in
the UK, no DAB transmissions actually provide it, and most are way way
below CD quality).

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Loser technology for losers


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On 07/01/2012 19:01, Scott wrote:


A new setup station round these parts is using 64 K mono and claims its
digital quality .. so thats all right then;!...

Indeed. My cordless phone is digital quality.


And so was an old fashioned telegraph ;-)
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HDRadioFarce (for it is he) wrote:

Hey, Struble - ROTFLMFAO!


I wonder if having to cite Faux News actually helps you with your seemingly
terminal obsession?

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HD (aka IBOC) radio in the USA:

For the general public has to compete along with traditional analog
radio against
satellite radio, portable mp3 players, and Internet radio.

Automobile drivers have decided satellite wins hands down IF the
subscription price is not an issue for the listener.

MP3 players win for the rest.

IBOC in New York City Metro survives on a handful of AM stations,
many more on FM with multiple sub channels,
the FM sub channels being used to simulcast their AM sister stations,
ethnic or alternate programming.

Bottom line IMHO, its the programming content, not the technology that
is killing free radio.
It they had something on free radio that people wanted to listen to then
the technology would be embraced. Crap is crap no matter what you wrap
it in.

The rare BCB DXer or tech-know-geek is not in this horse race.
Hardware price is no longer an issue with so many fire sales on IBOC
enabled radios.

Steve
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On 1/7/2012 1:00 PM, Steve Stone wrote:

Bottom line IMHO, its the programming content, not the technology that
is killing free radio.


I can't speak for NYC, but in the San Francisco Bay Area it's the
digital technology that's making terrestrial radio palatable at all.
There are several HD2 stations, including the only decent jazz station
on HD2.

Cost of the receivers is not an issue, there are so many different
models available now and the cost adder is only around $10. A bigger
issues is that on newer vehicles you can't easily replace the stock head
unit.
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On 07/01/2012 21:00, Steve Stone wrote:


Bottom line IMHO, its the programming content, not the technology that
is killing free radio.
It they had something on free radio that people wanted to listen to then
the technology would be embraced. Crap is crap no matter what you wrap
it in.


I agree to some extent. If the content is cr*p, then not many people
will want to listen to it.

However I don't agree that this is the only factor.
In fact I think the most important factor is that people are content
with what they can already get on FM, and although FM is not perfect, it
does at least work well enough the vast majority of the time.

Also, with digital radio, I do think that technical factors could affect
whether people listen. If the audio keeps cutting out, then that will
put a lot of people off. Also if the sound quality is very poor, then I
do believe that will put a fair number of people off.

The rare BCB DXer or tech-know-geek is not in this horse race.
Hardware price is no longer an issue with so many fire sales on IBOC
enabled radios.


Except that vehicle manufacturers tend to want to fit the cheapest car
stereo they can get away with, and an ordinary AM/FM receiver, is still
cheaper than a digital radio.

Richard E.
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