In article , tommyknocker wrote:

We're talking about people who don't drive or cook or even tear toilet
paper off its roll on Shabbat (Saturday) because God rested on Shabbat
and so they can't do anything that resembles effort on Saturday. In
Israel, ultraorthodox Jews regularly stone cars whose drivers have the
misfortune to find themselves driving in the neighborhoods on Saturday.
The men spend all their time studying Talmud and make the women work to
pay their bills. Even Jews have weird religious beliefs.

The Lubuvitchers are not that bad. They are ultraorthodox, but not to
the point of stoning people. Their late leader, Rabbi Menachem
Mendel Schneerson, was trained in engineering at the Sourbonne (sp?)
in Paris. He did not eschew modern technology, and most Lubuvitchers
have computers, and many have VCR's and TV sets. Just about every
Lubvitcher man I know works for a living. They also study, but they work
a full time job too.

Indeed. The Lubavichers are a consciously very technically savvy
group. They have cable TV shows here in NYC. And they have run ads in
subway cars. They are NOT Amish jews, by any means.

Someone else here mentioned the station is off the air on Sat. That's
no doubt true. But you wanna be looking for it after sundown anyway.
And for the Lubuvichers, that's no longer Saturday. And early Sunday
and early Monday is when I've heard them best.

As I said, if anyone wants an mp3, I have old ones but I'll try to get
a current one.

I cannot, though, assure you the Rebbes will QSL!


They are the only sect of Jews that prosteltize, but only to other Jews.
If you have ever walked down the street and had some men approach you
and ask you if you were Jewish, that's them. There are various commandments
that Jews are supposed to follow and many don't, they offer you the chance
to fullfill them.

They also spend lots of time and money providing kosher food where there is
none, such as at prisons, and for the ritual feast at passover called a Seder.
In fact there was a huge Seder in Katmandu this year thrown by them for
all the Israeli tourists.

Another example is in Venice where there are no kosher restaurants so they
opened one. Since there is no place to eat on the Sabbath, and they can't
handle money, they have a free buffet.

So these guys are not as bad as you think, and there are many in Israel,
but "tommy" is right, there are some extreme ones in every religion.

Geoff.

I agree. I sorta like them. The same way I like most religious people
who actually live out their beliefs, rather than just show up at some
church on Easter and Christmas.




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