Telamon wrote in message
I'm not spending hundreds of dollars on a radio that
must be modified to work as advertised.

no problem. but aren't you this electronics guru? imagine a machine shop
owner buying his car based on stock horsepower while balking at someone
bolting on a supercharger. what can you hear on your RX340 that you cannot
on your R8B? on an R75? please site specific specs. we all know the answer
and that is why the R75 is now one of the best selling tabletops.

I haven't noticed anything that the RX340 can pick up that the R8B can't
hear. Usually the RX340 can make a station sound better but other times
the R8B does better depending on conditions. The radios are all on
different antennas, which make for a different reception condition so I
am not generally comparing them.
Thanks for this one.Using simple logic if your R8B [$1,499] can "pick
up" anything that your ten tec RX 340 [$4,000]hear,then my Icon R-75
[$450=$70.00 in mods=$520.00]can run side by side with your expensive
Ten Tec [because my R-75 was better [in a real life side by side test]
in hard core dxing than my R8b [sold after that].
I would not be buying a new car and modifying it either. An older out of
warranty car could be a different story. In my youth I was into street
racing and did just that.
I bet that my toyota [r-75] can run side by side with your your
mercedez [ten tec 340]
Some people just don't understand that anything manufactured has
engineering compromises built in. Each radio when designed has a slew of
compromises where one performance parameter is diminished in favor of
another. The result is that depending on situation and conditions one
radio will do better than another. Change the situation or conditions
and the other radio does better so which is best?
I agree with you 99.9% That was my point in all this tread.At last you
got it.
You generally get what you pay for. Spend more money on a radio and you
can get higher quality components resulting in better specifications,
reliability, capabilities or operational features.
This is the great myth again price=performance.Better
specifications? Tell me about your ten tech RX-340 dynamic range
/IP3[5khz]or blocking capacity.

Kenneth wrote:


I agree with you 99.9% That was my point in all this tread.At last you
got it.

Another tip Kenneth: If you need new treads, I recommend Goodyear.

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:


I agree with you 99.9% That was my point in all this tread.At last you
got it.

Another tip Kenneth: If you need new treads, I recommend Goodyear.
Thanks Steve, you are correct I forgot a "h".I'm writing too much
this days and sometimes I forgot a letter or some coma. But I'm a
fortunate man I have you at my service as my personal secretary and
the nice thing is that I don't have to pay you anything...

In article ,
(Kenneth) wrote:

Telamon wrote in message
I'm not spending hundreds of dollars on a radio that
must be modified to work as advertised.

no problem. but aren't you this electronics guru? imagine a machine shop
owner buying his car based on stock horsepower while balking at someone
bolting on a supercharger. what can you hear on your RX340 that you
cannot
on your R8B? on an R75? please site specific specs. we all know the
answer
and that is why the R75 is now one of the best selling tabletops.

I haven't noticed anything that the RX340 can pick up that the R8B can't
hear. Usually the RX340 can make a station sound better but other times
the R8B does better depending on conditions. The radios are all on
different antennas, which make for a different reception condition so I
am not generally comparing them.
Thanks for this one.Using simple logic if your R8B [$1,499] can "pick
up" anything that your ten tec RX 340 [$4,000]hear,then my Icon R-75
[$450=$70.00 in mods=$520.00]can run side by side with your expensive
Ten Tec [because my R-75 was better [in a real life side by side test]
in hard core dxing than my R8b [sold after that].
I would not be buying a new car and modifying it either. An older out of
warranty car could be a different story. In my youth I was into street
racing and did just that.
I bet that my toyota [r-75] can run side by side with your your
mercedez [ten tec 340]
Some people just don't understand that anything manufactured has
engineering compromises built in. Each radio when designed has a slew of
compromises where one performance parameter is diminished in favor of
another. The result is that depending on situation and conditions one
radio will do better than another. Change the situation or conditions
and the other radio does better so which is best?
I agree with you 99.9% That was my point in all this tread.At last you
got it.
You generally get what you pay for. Spend more money on a radio and you
can get higher quality components resulting in better specifications,
reliability, capabilities or operational features.
This is the great myth again price=performance.Better
specifications? Tell me about your ten tech RX-340 dynamic range
/IP3[5khz]or blocking capacity.

Why don't you tell us? Your answer should be far more entertaining than
anything I could come up with seeing how "I got it" only yesterday.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

hi Telamon:

how would you characterize these RX340 specs?

IP3: 5-kHz -53 dBm, 20-kHz +4 dBm
phase noise: -113 dBc/Hz
ultimate rejection: 70 dB

regards,
phil

hi Telamon:

i respect your thoughts. "best" depends on the user. want to guess what
percentage of stations my R75 picked up on MW that could be IDed on a $10
radio [both using loops]? guess the causes for the discrepency. the results
were a testament to Armstrong. any of the tabletops can be used for DXing.
the antenna is critical.


hi Mark:

IMO ICOM made a batch of R75s, will never admit to the flaws, is reducing
their stock for a new radio, and is making a profit... check out what $800
will buy in terms of transceivers.


hi Steve:

there are Drake mods but few know about them. the stock radio is fine. all
radios have flaws.


hi DeWayne:

Ken does not bash American products. he is an American.

regards,
phil

"phil " wrote:

hi Steve:

there are Drake mods but few know about them. the stock radio is fine. all
radios have flaws.

Some more than others. ;)

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

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