"JEFF UK" wrote ...

What would be best for my next receiving antenna.
1) A long wire , coax feed (no balun ) about 80 feet, ( earthed coax braid)
15mtrs from house.
or
2) A Long dipole, about 80 feet each side.


A good performer is an off-center fed dipole. 44 ft on one end / 22
ft on the other, fed with RG-8X coax. Being coax fed, it keeps out a
lot of the indoor electrical noise from dimmers, flourescent lights,
etc. Grove sells this antenna as the "Skywire". I've also used a 66
ft / 33 ft variation of this with very good results. The higher the
better.

A passive tuener or passive preselector might be a good accessory with
this antenna.

(Disclaimer - an antenna of this type and size *might* overload some
portable radios.)

LW,

Windom -vice- Dipole which is the better SWL Antenna ? ? ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...nna/message/80

FWIW: Think of the WINDOM Antenna as an OFF-Center (36%/64%) Feed
Dipole that is more Broad Banded (not as frequency specific and
resonant) and more omni-directional (not as bi-directional) as the
common dipole antenna.

IMHO: For a SWL Antenna the WINDOM Antenna is the better "All
Band" "All Directions" antenna choice over the common dipole antenna.

CHECK-OUT - The SWL Terminated-Folded-Windom "TFW" Antenna
(Low Noise) using a 300 Ohm Twin-Lead or 450 Ohm Ladder-Line
and a Matching Transformer with Coax Cable Lead-in-Line.
TFW-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/3ff7g

CHECK-OUT - Double LL Windom Type [Low Noise] SWL Antenna -
NOTE: Not a True Windom but more like Two Oposed Inverted L Antennas.
Double-LL-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/26h2t

CHECK-OUT - Dual Element Low Noise SWL Antenna MLB Type:
Dual Element (Inverted "L" and Horizontal) Multi-Wire Low Noise
SWL Antenna using a Matching Transformer (Magnetic Longwire Balun)
with a Coax Cable Lead-in-Line.
Dual-Element-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/2yo3q


iane ~ RHF
..
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...na/message/502
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night... You Can Hear Forever and Beyond !
..
..
= = = (LW)
= = = wrote in message . com...

"JEFF UK" wrote ...

What would be best for my next receiving antenna.
1) A long wire , coax feed (no balun ) about 80 feet,
( earthed coax braid)
15mtrs from house.
or
2) A Long dipole, about 80 feet each side.



A good performer is an off-center fed dipole. 44 ft on one end /
22 ft on the other, fed with RG-8X coax. Being coax fed, it keeps
out a lot of the indoor electrical noise from dimmers, flourescent
lights, etc. Grove sells this antenna as the "Skywire". I've also
used a 66 ft / 33 ft variation of this with very good results.
The higher the better.

A passive tuener or passive preselector might be a good accessory
with this antenna.

(Disclaimer - an antenna of this type and size *might* overload
some portable radios.)

..

The true Windom is not a dipole of any type. It is an off center fed T. It
is not balanced and requires a ground system.

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
LW,

Windom -vice- Dipole which is the better SWL Antenna ? ? ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...nna/message/80

FWIW: Think of the WINDOM Antenna as an OFF-Center (36%/64%) Feed
Dipole that is more Broad Banded (not as frequency specific and
resonant) and more omni-directional (not as bi-directional) as the
common dipole antenna.

IMHO: For a SWL Antenna the WINDOM Antenna is the better "All
Band" "All Directions" antenna choice over the common dipole antenna.

CHECK-OUT - The SWL Terminated-Folded-Windom "TFW" Antenna
(Low Noise) using a 300 Ohm Twin-Lead or 450 Ohm Ladder-Line
and a Matching Transformer with Coax Cable Lead-in-Line.
TFW-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/3ff7g

CHECK-OUT - Double LL Windom Type [Low Noise] SWL Antenna -
NOTE: Not a True Windom but more like Two Oposed Inverted L Antennas.
Double-LL-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/26h2t

CHECK-OUT - Dual Element Low Noise SWL Antenna MLB Type:
Dual Element (Inverted "L" and Horizontal) Multi-Wire Low Noise
SWL Antenna using a Matching Transformer (Magnetic Longwire Balun)
with a Coax Cable Lead-in-Line.
Dual-Element-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/2yo3q


iane ~ RHF
.
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...na/message/502
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night... You Can Hear Forever and Beyond !
.
.
= = = (LW)
= = = wrote in message
. com...

"JEFF UK" wrote ...

What would be best for my next receiving antenna.
1) A long wire , coax feed (no balun ) about 80 feet,
( earthed coax braid)
15mtrs from house.
or
2) A Long dipole, about 80 feet each side.



A good performer is an off-center fed dipole. 44 ft on one end /
22 ft on the other, fed with RG-8X coax. Being coax fed, it keeps
out a lot of the indoor electrical noise from dimmers, flourescent
lights, etc. Grove sells this antenna as the "Skywire". I've also
used a 66 ft / 33 ft variation of this with very good results.
The higher the better.

A passive tuener or passive preselector might be a good accessory
with this antenna.

(Disclaimer - an antenna of this type and size *might* overload
some portable radios.)

.

CW,

Thank you for pointing that out.

YES - You are right and the first Three of the Eleven Links in
this Message Reference that I provided in the prior post are
related to the 'true' {original} Windom Antenna.

"Windom -vice- Dipole which is the better SWL Antenna ? ? ?"
GOTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...nna/message/80

* The Fourth Link by L. B. Cebik, [W4RNL] and concerns the
evolution of the Windom into the "Off-Center-Fed (OFC) Dipole".

* The Fifth Link is again about the OCF Dipole
- by Bill Buchholz [K8SYH].

* The Sixth Link is about a modern day Windom using a MLB
- by G. E. "Buck" Rogers Sr; [K4ABT].

* Link # 7 is by Michael Toia [K3MT].

* The Classic Windom is Link # 8 provided by Antennas & More.

* The CAROLINA WINDOM Short Antenna is Link # 9.
(AKA: Bobtail Curtain or Half Square).

* The RF Systems Mini-Windom is Link # 10
- presented by Universal-Radio.

* Finally Link #11 is What Makes the CAROLINA WINDOM so good ?


iane ~ RHF
..
..
= = = "CW"
= = = wrote in message ...

The true Windom is not a dipole of any type.
It is an off center fed T.
It is not balanced and requires a ground system.


"RHF" wrote in message
om...
LW,

Windom -vice- Dipole which is the better SWL Antenna ? ? ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...nna/message/80

FWIW: Think of the WINDOM Antenna as an OFF-Center (36%/64%) Feed
Dipole that is more Broad Banded (not as frequency specific and
resonant) and more omni-directional (not as bi-directional) as the
common dipole antenna.

IMHO: For a SWL Antenna the WINDOM Antenna is the better "All
Band" "All Directions" antenna choice over the common dipole antenna.

CHECK-OUT - The SWL Terminated-Folded-Windom "TFW" Antenna
(Low Noise) using a 300 Ohm Twin-Lead or 450 Ohm Ladder-Line
and a Matching Transformer with Coax Cable Lead-in-Line.
TFW-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/3ff7g

CHECK-OUT - Double LL Windom Type [Low Noise] SWL Antenna -
NOTE: Not a True Windom but more like Two Oposed Inverted L Antennas.
Double-LL-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/26h2t

CHECK-OUT - Dual Element Low Noise SWL Antenna MLB Type:
Dual Element (Inverted "L" and Horizontal) Multi-Wire Low Noise
SWL Antenna using a Matching Transformer (Magnetic Longwire Balun)
with a Coax Cable Lead-in-Line.
Dual-Element-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/2yo3q


iane ~ RHF
.
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...na/message/502
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night... You Can Hear Forever and Beyond !
.
.
= = = (LW)
= = = wrote in message
. com...

"JEFF UK" wrote ...

What would be best for my next receiving antenna.
1) A long wire , coax feed (no balun ) about 80 feet,
( earthed coax braid)
15mtrs from house.
or
2) A Long dipole, about 80 feet each side.



A good performer is an off-center fed dipole. 44 ft on one end /
22 ft on the other, fed with RG-8X coax. Being coax fed, it keeps
out a lot of the indoor electrical noise from dimmers, flourescent
lights, etc. Grove sells this antenna as the "Skywire". I've also
used a 66 ft / 33 ft variation of this with very good results.
The higher the better.

A passive tuener or passive preselector might be a good accessory
with this antenna.

(Disclaimer - an antenna of this type and size *might* overload
some portable radios.)

.

No ofense intended but I never look at any of the links you provide. It's
almost always Yahoo. Many people, including me, will not have anything to do
with Yahoo.

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
CW,

Thank you for pointing that out.

YES - You are right and the first Three of the Eleven Links in
this Message Reference that I provided in the prior post are
related to the 'true' {original} Windom Antenna.

"Windom -vice- Dipole which is the better SWL Antenna ? ? ?"
GOTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...nna/message/80

* The Fourth Link by L. B. Cebik, [W4RNL] and concerns the
evolution of the Windom into the "Off-Center-Fed (OFC) Dipole".

* The Fifth Link is again about the OCF Dipole
- by Bill Buchholz [K8SYH].

* The Sixth Link is about a modern day Windom using a MLB
- by G. E. "Buck" Rogers Sr; [K4ABT].

* Link # 7 is by Michael Toia [K3MT].

* The Classic Windom is Link # 8 provided by Antennas & More.

* The CAROLINA WINDOM Short Antenna is Link # 9.
(AKA: Bobtail Curtain or Half Square).

* The RF Systems Mini-Windom is Link # 10
- presented by Universal-Radio.

* Finally Link #11 is What Makes the CAROLINA WINDOM so good ?


iane ~ RHF
.
.
= = = "CW"
= = = wrote in message ...

The true Windom is not a dipole of any type.
It is an off center fed T.
It is not balanced and requires a ground system.


"RHF" wrote in message
om...
LW,

Windom -vice- Dipole which is the better SWL Antenna ? ? ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...nna/message/80

FWIW: Think of the WINDOM Antenna as an OFF-Center (36%/64%) Feed
Dipole that is more Broad Banded (not as frequency specific and
resonant) and more omni-directional (not as bi-directional) as the
common dipole antenna.

IMHO: For a SWL Antenna the WINDOM Antenna is the better "All
Band" "All Directions" antenna choice over the common dipole antenna.

CHECK-OUT - The SWL Terminated-Folded-Windom "TFW" Antenna
(Low Noise) using a 300 Ohm Twin-Lead or 450 Ohm Ladder-Line
and a Matching Transformer with Coax Cable Lead-in-Line.
TFW-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/3ff7g

CHECK-OUT - Double LL Windom Type [Low Noise] SWL Antenna -
NOTE: Not a True Windom but more like Two Oposed Inverted L Antennas.
Double-LL-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/26h2t

CHECK-OUT - Dual Element Low Noise SWL Antenna MLB Type:
Dual Element (Inverted "L" and Horizontal) Multi-Wire Low Noise
SWL Antenna using a Matching Transformer (Magnetic Longwire Balun)
with a Coax Cable Lead-in-Line.
Dual-Element-Antenna= http://tinyurl.com/2yo3q


iane ~ RHF
.
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...na/message/502
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night... You Can Hear Forever and Beyond !
.
.
= = = (LW)
= = = wrote in message
. com...

"JEFF UK" wrote ...

What would be best for my next receiving antenna.
1) A long wire , coax feed (no balun ) about 80 feet,
( earthed coax braid)
15mtrs from house.
or
2) A Long dipole, about 80 feet each side.



A good performer is an off-center fed dipole. 44 ft on one end /
22 ft on the other, fed with RG-8X coax. Being coax fed, it keeps
out a lot of the indoor electrical noise from dimmers, flourescent
lights, etc. Grove sells this antenna as the "Skywire". I've also
used a 66 ft / 33 ft variation of this with very good results.
The higher the better.

A passive tuener or passive preselector might be a good accessory
with this antenna.

(Disclaimer - an antenna of this type and size *might* overload
some portable radios.)

.

(LW) wrote in message . com...
"JEFF UK" wrote ...

What would be best for my next receiving antenna.
1) A long wire , coax feed (no balun ) about 80 feet, ( earthed coax braid)
15mtrs from house.
or
2) A Long dipole, about 80 feet each side.


A good performer is an off-center fed dipole. 44 ft on one end / 22
ft on the other, fed with RG-8X coax. Being coax fed, it keeps out a
lot of the indoor electrical noise from dimmers, flourescent lights,
etc.

Not as good as a center fed though. In itself, using coax to feed does
not
always mean low noise ingress. In fact, it can be just as bad as
anything if it's not decoupled. One problem with the off center fed is
it's unbalanced. This makes it a good bit harder to decouple the
feedline. Which in turns makes it harder to reduce noise ingress. How
much this means to the user will depend on how much shack noise they
have. I'd always prefer a center fed if possible. MK