TL Fort wrote in
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Swamp gas!

Tracy

Quoted Text Follows:

"Ignus Fatuus (the flame) - As anyone in the paranormal realm will know,
ignus fatuus means "foolish fire" as well as "fire of mystery." It is
often said that in graveyards the ignus fatuus will try to mislead
investigators from the truth. Since lies and deception always surround
truth, it was felt that the ignus fatuus should surround the triangle,
which represents truth. Some feel that the ignus fatuus is in fact the
guardian of truth, that separates those who are meant to find the truth
from those who aren't."

The above paragraph refers to an emblem that the paranormal club had
created as its logo.

The above was gleaned from
http://www.clubs.psu.edu/up/paranorm...12002_logo.htm

The description of Ignus Fatuus (essentially swamp gas) in the above
definition seems to indicate a character similar to the entities in "The
Mothman Prophecies", i.e. an entity that knows the truth but presents it to
us mere humans in a fashion that is indecipherable.

Unfortunately, when looking for a more lengthy discussion on swamp gas,
ignus fatuus, etc., I was rather dumfounded that I could only find links to
paranormal and music related uses of the word. Even some of the sites that
I visit for dictionary type references did not have a definition available
for the word.

Further studying yielded the following:
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/w1/willowis.asp

The Marfa Lights present an enigma when it comes to such phenomenon.
http://www.urbanlegends.com/science/marfa_lights.html

The closest that I came to seeing UFOs was near Washington D.C. While
traveling at night, we observed an odd triangular configuration of lights
moving across the sky above us. We stopped the car and got out to examine
them. Marveling that they were definitely different, I came to the
unfortunate conclusion that they were, in fact, the wing lights on an SST.
Being from the Pittsburgh Pennsylvania area, I had never seen an SST in
flight, as they weren't permitted this far inland. Washington D.C. and New
York were the 2 airports that were permitted to handle these planes in the
United States.


Dr. Artaud








--
To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is immovable,
lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the tiny fist of the all
or nothing."

"Doctor Artaud" wrote in message
...

[snip]


Unfortunately, when looking for a more lengthy discussion on swamp
gas,
ignus fatuus, etc., I was rather dumfounded that I could only find
links to
paranormal and music related uses of the word. Even some of the sites
that
I visit for dictionary type references did not have a definition
available
for the word.

[snip}



Dr. Artaud



Dr. J. Allen Hynek is credited with the "swamp gas" UFO explaination:

" The Air Force sent in Blue Book astronomer and UFO expert Dr. J.
Allen Hynek who, after a whirlwind probe that lasted two hours and 45
minutes, dismissed the sightings as "swamp gas.""

This is from:

http://www.detnews.com/history/ufo/ufo.htm

Dr. Hynek jumped fence on the UFO issue, and formed his own group:

http://www.cufos.org/

Doc Hynek was something of a celebrity around here, and always has
plenty of UFO watching tips for us young radio listeners.

Frank Dresser

"Joe" wrote in message
...
Weird things in the sky here !!
LOTs of people stopped there cars, I just got back (was on Beacon Hill
Port
Washington)
7PM between over the water Glen Cove and Rye New York, lot of extra
lights
in the sky, changing direction.
Long oval over the water, 8 or 9 RED blinking lights on bottom.
Anybody have anything ?

-Joe

Already ID'ed as the Goodyear Airship going
south over NY then making the loooong slow right
turn, crossing over NJ, Pa and finally home to it's
home near Akron Ohio later tonight. I'm wondering
why their flying tonight with a snowstorm on the way!
They were also flying *lower* than normal altitude
as the dewpoints from about 3000 feet to surface
are at 7°F, plus the RH is around 25% - 30%.
If they were to fly any higher, where the clouds are
they would quickly ice-up. NOT something you want
to encounter in an Airship, let alone a fixed wing or
rotating wing aircraft. Hope this helps!

"Dietzgen Transitman" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
...
Weird things in the sky here !!
LOTs of people stopped there cars, I just got back (was on Beacon Hill
Port
Washington)
7PM between over the water Glen Cove and Rye New York, lot of extra
lights
in the sky, changing direction.
Long oval over the water, 8 or 9 RED blinking lights on bottom.
Anybody have anything ?

-Joe

Already ID'ed as the Goodyear Airship going
south over NY then making the loooong slow right
turn, crossing over NJ, Pa and finally home to it's
home near Akron Ohio later tonight. I'm wondering
why their flying tonight with a snowstorm on the way!
They were also flying *lower* than normal altitude
as the dewpoints from about 3000 feet to surface
are at 7°F, plus the RH is around 25% - 30%.
If they were to fly any higher, where the clouds are
they would quickly ice-up. NOT something you want
to encounter in an Airship, let alone a fixed wing or
rotating wing aircraft. Hope this helps!


Your just payed by the goobermint to say that aren't you!!

Was out at the local airport a few months ago at night and heard a blimp on
the CTAF coming in. Some local yocal called the FBO asking if they knew what
the UFO was flying around. Was heading out to the car to leave and there it
was, coming in to land, looked kind of alien space shipey like I will have
to admit. No sound, hovering, lights on the bottom in a triangle shape
(sound VERY familiar?). I can see how non-aviation, let alone beer drinking
red-necks out on fishing boats could misidentify an airship.

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The Duck

Combat Air Patrol is flown over Long Island, and most of the refueling
tracks tthey use are over the north shore and long island sound

if you have a kc-135 tanker with an f16 behind it and another f16 on its
wing or behind it waiting to refuel
the light show will be exactly hat our describing, add sme clouds and their
you go instant UFO

271.00Mhz AM mode
138.425Mhz AM mode

ut then in your scanner if your in NYC area and se what you hear. comms are
short leave your radio on either freq, or even better use two radios.

have fun

"Joe" wrote in message
...
Weird things in the sky here !!
LOTs of people stopped there cars, I just got back (was on Beacon Hill
Port
Washington)
7PM between over the water Glen Cove and Rye New York, lot of extra lights
in the sky, changing direction.
Long oval over the water, 8 or 9 RED blinking lights on bottom.
Anybody have anything ?

-Joe

Still, it is exciting to have something unusual set the hair on the back of
your neck on edge S.

"Steve Bossert" wrote in message
. ..
Combat Air Patrol is flown over Long Island, and most of the refueling
tracks tthey use are over the north shore and long island sound

if you have a kc-135 tanker with an f16 behind it and another f16 on its
wing or behind it waiting to refuel
the light show will be exactly hat our describing, add sme clouds and
their
you go instant UFO

271.00Mhz AM mode
138.425Mhz AM mode

ut then in your scanner if your in NYC area and se what you hear. comms
are
short leave your radio on either freq, or even better use two radios.

have fun

"Joe" wrote in message
...
Weird things in the sky here !!
LOTs of people stopped there cars, I just got back (was on Beacon Hill
Port
Washington)
7PM between over the water Glen Cove and Rye New York, lot of extra
lights
in the sky, changing direction.
Long oval over the water, 8 or 9 RED blinking lights on bottom.
Anybody have anything ?

-Joe