On SW, the Degen blew away my 398!

Ahhhhhhh, now I know why you jumped in my Moriccan post.....lol. I'm sure you
love your Degen, but id you 'think' it 'blows away' the 398 then you are in
the "I just got a new toy stage." sheesh

Yep,pitch out my 398 and Hammars and JRC and go grab that Degen, sarcasm
hopefully noted

Sorry (but not a lot) I read this a lot when someone gets a new radio and
someone that 100 out of a 100 would say is a better receiver than the new toy
and he's posting that he's hearing on his 'whip' what a superior radio on 600
ft. of wire is hearing also.

Pitch em' all out I say and RUN and get that Degen (which I'm sure is an OK
radio) but come on. You're not gonna hear clandestines on, oh heck, you
probably will also and really stcik it to us. ;-)

I'm glad your enjoying your new 'radio.'

On MW, the two were basically equal. Each one had frequencies on which it
beat the other.

then they weren't 'basically' equal.

It's amazing that a radio
with a smaller ferrite bar can keep up with my DX-398.

It sure is, isn't it. ;-)

Of course, the 398
sounds better with more bass and everything, but that's to be expected.

But of course. You sure though?

On FM, again the two were comparable.

Maybe the 398 won with the whip not
extended, but with the whip fully extended, there was no differenc

You think. :-)



On SW, the Degen blew away my 398!

Oh quit it Corbin....lol...why don't you start a yahoo group on your new piece
and see how many join. I'm sorry, this one is the hardest for me to believe.
Anyone else? Is this even 'remotely' possible. I've got a log book my friend
has just from my DX398 that hasn't even been modded yet (it will be) just so he
can see if he can catch the same stations and countries as I have)....I know I
live out in an RF free environment but still. I need another coffee now. ;-)

Of course I realize that the 398 is
designed to work best with an external antenna attached.

well then. :-) Which I have, two of the



In fact, most of the time, I like to keep the whip
unextended.

Do you mean 'extended' maybe? Just curious. Unextended for listening to what?

When I fully extended both whips, the 398 came closer in
reception, but the Degen still shone.

Meaning? What? The Degen *you* just bought slammed the DX398? Huh?

I love my new Degen 1102.

I can tell :-)

Maybe I'll post more tomorrow when I get tired of
listening to it. Or maybe not.

I'll be anxiously awaiting (seriously.) I'm tempted to borrow my friends that
I talked into buying one and sitting it next to MY DX398 and Hammarlunds and
RCA Victors and GE P-780 and see what the results are. Or on AM sit it next to
my GE P-780 and see what the results are. That'd be a barn burner I'm sure.

Sorry Corbin (I don't know if you're new or not) your post just *kind* of
rubbed me the wrong way.....soory if I made you upset. Heck I may just go out
and buy one of the radios myself and see what they're all about. That IS what
this hobby is for. But I don't have much room for it and my 'needs' (radio
wise) are taken. Until I get the Hammarlund 180 or an SP600 model, I might
hold tight.

Happy Dxing with your new radio, sounds like your enjoying it.

I'm still enjoying my new little friend.

You have to understand what I am about. I was born in 1958 here in Kentucky.
I grew up listening to local radio until 1972 when a friend introduced me to
nighttime radio (WLS, WOWO, WCFL, WAKY, WLAC...) and my whole world changed.
The radio became a magical place where I could get away from the doldrums of
the boring stuff around me and escape to wherever those magical voices were.
I imagined myself being in everyone of those places. Our internet today was
like my radio then, but my radio had better pictures. Of course, my first
job was as a DJ at a local station. I worked in radio many years, eventually
managing a group of top-rated stations. I'm now out of the radio business,
but I can never get radio out of me. When I go to bed at night, I cuddle
with my radio (my wife cuddles with a TV, but that's another story). And if
conditions permit, I tune my radio around the AM band just like I did 30
years ago. To me, the perfect radio has nothing sticking out of it. I have
owned expensive desktop radios, but they have to be plugged into the wall
and to a bunch of antennas. I even had a computer-controlled radio. That was
even worse. Listening to radio through my computer made no sense at all.
It's no different than listening to a real audio stream. No thanks. A
wireless radio was sufficient for me in 1972, and a wireless radio is
sufficient for me today. And sometimes late at night, when I hear the
announcer on WLS say that the outbound Dan Ryan is 15 minutes to O'Hare,
then I feel like I'm 14 again, and the magic of radio is still in me.

In article , "Corbin Ray"
writes:


On SW, the Degen blew away my 398!

Not in a 1 -1 test with an external antenna I bet.
They probably jiggered sensitivity on the Degen 1102
at the expense of selectivity;

- So, my guess is that, even though it's very sensitive on the whip,
there will be more overloads,


Oh quit it Corbin....lol...why don't you start a yahoo group on your new
piece
and see how many join. I'm sorry, this one is the hardest for me to
believe.
Anyone else? Is this even 'remotely' possible. I've got a log book my
friend
has just from my DX398 that hasn't even been modded yet (it will be) just so
he
can see if he can catch the same stations and countries as I have)....I know
I
live out in an RF free environment but still. I need another coffee now.
;-)


Listening to radio through my computer made no sense at all.
It's no different than listening to a real audio stream.

Agree.. Shortwave is better.. I can pick it up anywhere..

_ Except for Music shows ( Tasha) on Friday & John Lightning on Sunday Nights

( Where the Internet conection usually fails ! ! )

Well said Corbin!

I think you expressed the sentiments of many of us that love radio and
radios.

-- Stinger

"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm still enjoying my new little friend.

You have to understand what I am about. I was born in 1958 here in
Kentucky.
I grew up listening to local radio until 1972 when a friend introduced me
to
nighttime radio (WLS, WOWO, WCFL, WAKY, WLAC...) and my whole world
changed.
The radio became a magical place where I could get away from the doldrums
of
the boring stuff around me and escape to wherever those magical voices
were.
I imagined myself being in everyone of those places. Our internet today
was
like my radio then, but my radio had better pictures. Of course, my first
job was as a DJ at a local station. I worked in radio many years,
eventually
managing a group of top-rated stations. I'm now out of the radio business,
but I can never get radio out of me. When I go to bed at night, I cuddle
with my radio (my wife cuddles with a TV, but that's another story). And
if
conditions permit, I tune my radio around the AM band just like I did 30
years ago. To me, the perfect radio has nothing sticking out of it. I have
owned expensive desktop radios, but they have to be plugged into the wall
and to a bunch of antennas. I even had a computer-controlled radio. That
was
even worse. Listening to radio through my computer made no sense at all.
It's no different than listening to a real audio stream. No thanks. A
wireless radio was sufficient for me in 1972, and a wireless radio is
sufficient for me today. And sometimes late at night, when I hear the
announcer on WLS say that the outbound Dan Ryan is 15 minutes to O'Hare,
then I feel like I'm 14 again, and the magic of radio is still in me.

I feel exactly the same about radio. I guess I haven't been without some
kind of small transistor radio since I was 11. I'm 50 now, and I still like
'em. I was never in the radio business, but it started with local AM radio
listening in the late 1950's. Then came listening to stations at night from
Boston, New York and Detroit (mostly). As a teenager, the first time I got
paid for actual work I stopped at a little radio shop downtown and came home
with a pocket-sized Telefunken that had the names of European cities on the
dial. Later came a Grundig Elite Boy, and then some Sonys. I too listened to
internet radio for a while, but it's just not the same. I watch TV, but late
at night, it's a radio I like - one that's small enough to be in whatever
room I'm in, and that doesn't absolutely have to be connected to an antenna
or to the wall. To me, listening to a distant radio station makes me feel
like being there. It's exciting, and it's like walking - it's free, in the
air for the taking. For that reason, I really don't get much of a kick from
international broadcasts that are relayed. I want to hear them from where
they are. Of course, I wouldn't mind a nice communications receiver if I
could ever afford one - but not one that runs on the computer.
Pierre


"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I'm still enjoying my new little friend.

You have to understand what I am about. I was born in 1958 here in
Kentucky.
I grew up listening to local radio until 1972 when a friend introduced
me
to
nighttime radio (WLS, WOWO, WCFL, WAKY, WLAC...) and my whole world
changed.
The radio became a magical place where I could get away from the
doldrums
of
the boring stuff around me and escape to wherever those magical voices
were.
I imagined myself being in everyone of those places. Our internet today
was
like my radio then, but my radio had better pictures. Of course, my
first
job was as a DJ at a local station. I worked in radio many years,
eventually
managing a group of top-rated stations. I'm now out of the radio
business,
but I can never get radio out of me. When I go to bed at night, I cuddle
with my radio (my wife cuddles with a TV, but that's another story). And
if
conditions permit, I tune my radio around the AM band just like I did 30
years ago. To me, the perfect radio has nothing sticking out of it. I
have
owned expensive desktop radios, but they have to be plugged into the
wall
and to a bunch of antennas. I even had a computer-controlled radio. That
was
even worse. Listening to radio through my computer made no sense at all.
It's no different than listening to a real audio stream. No thanks. A
wireless radio was sufficient for me in 1972, and a wireless radio is
sufficient for me today. And sometimes late at night, when I hear the
announcer on WLS say that the outbound Dan Ryan is 15 minutes to O'Hare,
then I feel like I'm 14 again, and the magic of radio is still in me.

It's nice to see there's other people who think radio listening is fun. When
I was heavily into DXing, it became an obsession and I burned out quickly.
When I worked in radio, listening became a job. But now that I can sit back
and just listen for fun, I'm having a blast again. Kinda like my second
childhood.

Oh, about the 1102, it's still cranking out the hits. And last night, I
ordered another one for a friend who's down on his luck right now. He lost
his job, his wife is sick, and he's got a birthday next week. So I figured
he needs to get a new Degen in the mail from some Chinese person (Liypn's
sending it straight to him with no hint who paid for it). Everybody needs a
new Degen 1102!

I'm still enjoying my new little friend.


*********rest of good post snipped*******

OK Corbin, I see hwere you're coming from. My apologies. I remember my first
piece, and how excited I was, I just didn't have usenet to tell it too.

Hope you enjoy your new radio and hopefully it'll be the first of about fifteen
you'll end up getting. ;-)

Have fun!

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:40:18 -0500, "Corbin Ray"
wrote:

Quick first impressions about my new Degen 1102.

It arrived seven days after being airmailed from Hong Kong. Seller was Lipyn
through eBay. Perfect condition. He delivered exactly as promised.

The radio arrived in a padded envelope. When I opened it, there was a small
white box on the end. Inside was a 220 to 110 converter.

The radio box was in full color and printed in Chinese. I opened the box and
there was a very well-laid-out tray containing the 220 power adapter on the
left, stereo earphones on top right, and the radio on the bottom right
wrapped in a plastic bag. I picked up the tray, and under it was a shortwave
antenna wire, a pack of three Degen brand Ni-MH 1.25V 1300mAh rechargeable
batteries, and an owners manual printed in English and Chinese. Very nicely
packaged!!!

I haven't taken time to read the manual yet. Sorry, but I'm a guy.
Instructions are for the weak-minded.

I picked up the radio, put in three AA NI-CADs and turned it on. It worked
fine, so I went outside and tested it against my DX-398.

On MW, the two were basically equal. Each one had frequencies on which it
beat the other. One thing of note, though... the Degen is extremely
directional. The DX-398 was a bit more forgiving. It's amazing that a radio
with a smaller ferrite bar can keep up with my DX-398. Of course, the 398
sounds better with more bass and everything, but that's to be expected.

On FM, again the two were comparable. Maybe the 398 won with the whip not
extended, but with the whip fully extended, there was no difference.

On SW, the Degen blew away my 398! Of course I realize that the 398 is
designed to work best with an external antenna attached. But that's not the
way I listen to a radio. In fact, most of the time, I like to keep the whip
unextended. When I fully extended both whips, the 398 came closer in
reception, but the Degen still shone.

I don't feel like writing more now. There are radio waves passing through my
house at this very moment, so I need to get my new radio turned on and tuned
in so I can find out where the waves are coming from and what they're trying
to tell me.

I love my new Degen 1102. Maybe I'll post more tomorrow when I get tired of
listening to it. Or maybe not.

I have had my DE1102 for about 2 months and finally got around to
trying SSB on it. I listened to a person from Chicago talking to
someone in California. They came in loud and clear here in North
Texas. The the more I use this radio, the more I like it. I no longer
recommend the YB400, DX398 or the Sony 7600GR ( all of which I own ).
I recommend the DEGEN 1102 as a great first SW radio or anyone looking
for a portable. For the money, I think it is the best value going.

Pretty soon we'll have radios from China. Same idiot conservatives
that are buying them are screaming about NAFTA. Oh my my...!!

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 01:10:03 GMT, Robert Beck
wrote:


I have had my DE1102 for about 2 months and finally got around to
trying SSB on it. I listened to a person from Chicago talking to
someone in California. They came in loud and clear here in North
Texas. The the more I use this radio, the more I like it. I no longer
recommend the YB400, DX398 or the Sony 7600GR ( all of which I own ).
I recommend the DEGEN 1102 as a great first SW radio or anyone looking
for a portable. For the money, I think it is the best value going.