Coiled up is the best way.

thanks cw, that's what I had hoped, makes the most sense.

all i was trying to say was dont
blame the staff they are not trained to know every little part in the store.
if you want to get mad at someone get mad at the management,

Hey, I understand. You have no problem here. :-)

If you are a more Relaxed Person, then just let your 'external
antenna sleeve' lay as it may.

If you are more of a Neat-Type Person, then by all means made
a few loops and tie-it-off.


BUT - If you are an Excessive Compulsive Person, then your
'external antenna sleeve' MUST BE Coiled into Three 4" Loops
and Tied-off in Five Equally Spaced Places. This will 'ensure'
that ORDER is Maintained in the Universe )

Oh no rhf....lol...I'm not telling. That was good. ;-P

In article ,
"Corbin Ray" wrote:

I applied for a job as a fast-track manager at Radio Shack a year ago. My
credentials were out of this world. Besides my love for radio, I had a
Marketing/Business background, degree to match, and better Radio Shack
product knowledge than the managers I interviewed with.

Did I get the job? Of course not. All they want is a roboton who can
shamelessly upsell to an unsuspecting public, even when they don't need to
be upsold. Cell phones and satellite TV is all they're interesting in
selling. That's where the money is I guess, but sometimes people just don't
need those things. And sometimes people will be more loyal if you don't push
unnecessary products down their throats every time they come into your
store. So you can see why RS and I parted ways immediately.

By the way, a couple of weeks later, I got a MUCH better job with Verizon,
and every time I go by a Radio Shack store, I shudder to think I might have
been stuck in there selling my soul to the devil every day.



This is the first insightful post on this issue. When in doubt,
Americans will never blame the company, always the poor employees
hustling for a living. Well, in this case it's obviously the company to
blame. Two or three posters have noted that the pay structure for Rat
Shack employees is based on selling cell phone and satellite tv
contracts, not helping customers. That's where the problem lies, and the
responsibility clearly lies with the company.

Think of it as just another example of the increasing greed and
unprincipledness of American companies in recent years, which we've all
noticed in many different forms. Now, why have they become that way?

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor

"S" wrote:

thank you for flaming me.

i knew it would happen,
[snip]

WHAT are you talking about? I made a comment about Joe's experience,
not yours.



"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote:

The stupid ass call 911 and told them I looked suspicious and was for
asking
for Ferrets, eggs, and German diodes.

Heh! Should've told him that World War II is over.

BTW, Rat Shack stopped carrying 1N34s a couple years ago, so your wild
goose chase would've been no good under the best of circumstances.


--
Eric F. Richards,
"This book reads like a headache on paper."
http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/readi...one/index.html


--
Eric F. Richards,
"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

Americans will never blame the company, always the poor employees
hustling for a living.

Well, in this case it's obviously the company to
blame. Two or three posters have noted that the pay structure for Rat
Shack employees is based on selling cell phone and satellite tv
contracts, not helping customers. That's where the problem lies

No. The problems lies when the prospective employee has been told 'how' he
gets paid.

If the future employee 'chooses' under his own free will to *lie* to the
customers to jack up his paycheck, is not the employee at fault?

I would say yes, hence the problems at just about ever radio shack across the
country. Sure, management is giving them the choice, BUT, the employee is
excepting the terms of employment.

Then from day one, *KNOWINGLY* going to work to just jack the customer. And
jack they do. Actually it is quite sad.:-(

Don't shop at radioshack they run sweatshops.
http://12.22.230.41/MicroTech/Hosted/Files/issue1-demands_of_free_labour(10-39AM)1.mp3
That is a recording of my assistant manager Kevin Sutherland and my
manager Kevin Huang (the oriental guy in the recording) in Mapleview
Mall Radioshack, Burlington Ontario Canada (905-681-7353 is their
phone number, verify the voice if you like).
There are no conditions under which it is appropriate to demand free
off-the-clock labor.

You may also contact him directly at (905) 541 0833
Furthermore you may contact head office at (705) 728 7474
Or email them at

Making people work for free is the same as stealing, and it is also
fraud since hours have to be incorrectly reported. Let these people
know how criminal their activities are.

"S" wrote in message . net...
thank you for flaming me.

i knew it would happen,

i just wanted to rant. and Mr. Dxluver. all i was trying to say was dont
blame the staff they are not trained to know every little part in the store.
if you want to get mad at someone get mad at the management, that is all.
the core profit is in the parts, but the quick profit turn is on service
providers (cell phones, etc) if you knew how the business was run and how
bonuses were made, you would not help the litle part customers either. if
their was more incentive for the parts and suh, more eplyees would pay
closer attention to them.

i know radioshack has bad business practices towards us "radio people" but
in the large picture we are a small niche they dont make much money on a
compared to others

as far as me working their during college, it was easy pocket money for a
20-30hr job that was flexible in schedule. try to find a good paying job
while in college not doing much today

i never lied to a customer, even though my manager and DM promoted it. they
hated me for not sellng stuff people didnt want/or need

i do post here quite often, under a different name though, sometimes it is
not worth a post on such stupid things like
what color to buy a ATS 909 in





"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote:

The stupid ass call 911 and told them I looked suspicious and was for
asking
for Ferrets, eggs, and German diodes.

Heh! Should've told him that World War II is over.

BTW, Rat Shack stopped carrying 1N34s a couple years ago, so your wild
goose chase would've been no good under the best of circumstances.


--
Eric F. Richards,
"This book reads like a headache on paper."
http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/readi...one/index.html

In article ,
(Dxluver) wrote:

Americans will never blame the company, always the poor employees
hustling for a living.

Well, in this case it's obviously the company to
blame. Two or three posters have noted that the pay structure for Rat
Shack employees is based on selling cell phone and satellite tv
contracts, not helping customers. That's where the problem lies

No. The problems lies when the prospective employee has been told 'how' he
gets paid.

If the future employee 'chooses' under his own free will to *lie* to the
customers to jack up his paycheck, is not the employee at fault?

I would say yes, hence the problems at just about ever radio shack across the
country. Sure, management is giving them the choice, BUT, the employee is
excepting the terms of employment.

Then from day one, *KNOWINGLY* going to work to just jack the customer. And
jack they do. Actually it is quite sad.:-(


Who said anything about lying to customers? Lying is reprehensible. Some
"puffing" of the products, on the other hand, has always been standard
practice. I was just referring to the change of the stores from sources
of many electronic things, including knowledgeably-sold parts, to places
where they mainly try sell yearly cell-phone and satellite tv contracts,
ignoring much of the other stuff. When you sell intangibles like
contracts, my guess is that you make a lot more money than when you sell
stuff, because you don't have to store, transport, stock, and warranty
the intangibles. It would also be my guess that the decline of the
service and selection in Radio Shacks started when cell phones became
popular, and accelerated when satellite tv joined their lineup.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor

Then from day one, *KNOWINGLY* going to work to just jack the customer.
And
jack they do. Actually it is quite sad.:-(
Who said anything about lying to customers? Lying is reprehensible


Case in point Leonard. This was at least two years or more ago. But I watched
an employee sell a customer a cordless phone.

The lady asked the employee "can I be heard talking on this phone by people
with *police* scanners?"

I saw the brand of phone and waited to see what he'd say, and without a second
pause he told her "oh no, not on this one."

I looked at him and rolled my eyes and kind of shook my head and he looked at
me real hard, hard enough that the lady noticed and turned around towards me
and said "is there a problem?"

I replied "well, if you want your neighbors and people in your neighborhood to
know everything about you and you don't care, then no. There isn't anything
wrong."

The shack employee quickly reached for another phone (more expensive) that had
'voice encryption' on it and told her that this would' garble up your voice'
and no one would understand you and I started laughing.

He said "well, I'm not lying".......and I said "no you're not, but you're not
telling her either for about seven to eight dollars worth of parts here that
the simple encryption can be broken very easy and you can be heard *crystal
clear.*

His reply was and he stuttered...."well I'm sure people have better things to
do with their time than listen to peoples conversations."

I explained to him and her my hobby of electronics and explained the simplicity
of building a box and even told them about my Ramsey speech scrambler, of
course I added that "yes it gets old and it's not as exciting as it once was
(and it's not), but mam if you left with that phone I PROMISE you I could sit
down the street from your house and every time YOU pick up the phone, *I* pick
up the phone also.

Some other things were said, but to make a long story short I told her the
ONLY way (other than the gubiment listening) is to get a phone with 'Spread
Spectrum Technology'......but she didn't want to pay that much for a phone she
said. So I advised her not to say anything she wouldn't be ashamed of telling
her neighborhood over her other cordless, but for important things, just
stick to the ole' landline phone.

Here's the sad part, the employee was MAD at me for telling her the TRUTH
while he was LYING to her. It goes on everyday in rat shacks stores alllllllll
over the country, and that's sad IMO.

Who said anything about lying you say? ;-)

In article ,
(Dxluver) wrote:

Then from day one, *KNOWINGLY* going to work to just jack the customer.
And
jack they do. Actually it is quite sad.:-(
Who said anything about lying to customers? Lying is reprehensible


Case in point Leonard. This was at least two years or more ago. But I watched
an employee sell a customer a cordless phone.

The lady asked the employee "can I be heard talking on this phone by people
with *police* scanners?"

I saw the brand of phone and waited to see what he'd say, and without a second
pause he told her "oh no, not on this one."

I looked at him and rolled my eyes and kind of shook my head and he looked at
me real hard, hard enough that the lady noticed and turned around towards me
and said "is there a problem?"

I replied "well, if you want your neighbors and people in your neighborhood to
know everything about you and you don't care, then no. There isn't anything
wrong."

The shack employee quickly reached for another phone (more expensive) that had
'voice encryption' on it and told her that this would' garble up your voice'
and no one would understand you and I started laughing.

He said "well, I'm not lying".......and I said "no you're not, but you're not
telling her either for about seven to eight dollars worth of parts here that
the simple encryption can be broken very easy and you can be heard *crystal
clear.*

His reply was and he stuttered...."well I'm sure people have better things to
do with their time than listen to peoples conversations."

I explained to him and her my hobby of electronics and explained the simplicity
of building a box and even told them about my Ramsey speech scrambler, of
course I added that "yes it gets old and it's not as exciting as it once was
(and it's not), but mam if you left with that phone I PROMISE you I could sit
down the street from your house and every time YOU pick up the phone, *I* pick
up the phone also.

Some other things were said, but to make a long story short I told her the
ONLY way (other than the gubiment listening) is to get a phone with 'Spread
Spectrum Technology'......but she didn't want to pay that much for a phone she
said. So I advised her not to say anything she wouldn't be ashamed of telling
her neighborhood over her other cordless, but for important things, just
stick to the ole' landline phone.

Here's the sad part, the employee was MAD at me for telling her the TRUTH
while he was LYING to her. It goes on everyday in rat shacks stores alllllllll
over the country, and that's sad IMO.

Who said anything about lying you say? ;-)


Nice story! I'm sure they lie like homosexual priests. I was just
granting the previous poster a point in order to go on and make my main
point about the ultimate reason why Radio Shacks have gone downhill.
Radio Shack has always been a place NOT to trade at, except for the
parts. They were only good as a source of parts. Every time I made the
mistake of buying an actual assembled item there, it proved to be junk.
E.g, the old DX-300 receiver that had no IF filter, just an audio
filter, and had so much intermodulation distortion that there seemed to
be a shortwave station every 10 khz.

Now there's no reason to patronize Radio Shack at all.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor