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Old April 12th 04, 12:17 AM
Lawrence H. Bulk
 
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Dear Jim,

I have a friend who owns one and I have heard it quite a bit. His is
modified "to the teeth" by ICOM, Kiwa and others; it's not bad, yet I
would still not buy one. Though more sensitive, I believe that
overall, in terms of "what you hear," it is inferior, at least to my
ears, to the Satellit 800, which I brought over to his house once for
side-by-side comparison. (Formal "true" A/B comparisons are not
possible as he has only one antenna connection, so the antenna must be
disconnected from one receiver and then hooked to the other. It
doesn't take long, but it's not true A/B.) That evening there was
nothing heard on the ICOM that could not also be heard on the Grundig
and the Grundig sounded much better (he uses a Radio Shack external
speaker; I used the Grundig's speaker). His radio cost much more than
mine.

My friend likes his ICOM.

Lawrence

"Jim Hackett" wrote in message link.net...
I'm assuming you have first hand experience with an R-75 and are not just
"parroting" what you've read or been told?


"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message
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Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

The Grundig Satellit 800, like all SW radios, is not perfect. But at
its price level, it is by far the best receiver available. It offers
FM and portability which other communication receivers do not. It is a
much better radio for program listening than the stock ICOM R75, the
SW receiver closest in price, which must be modified by "third-party"
companies (or yourself at your own risk) in order to function
properly.

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Old April 12th 04, 12:30 AM
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"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message
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Dear Jim,

I have a friend who owns one and I have heard it quite a bit. His is
modified "to the teeth" by ICOM, Kiwa and others; it's not bad, yet I
would still not buy one. Though more sensitive, I believe that
overall, in terms of "what you hear," it is inferior, at least to my
ears, to the Satellit 800, which I brought over to his house once for
side-by-side comparison. (Formal "true" A/B comparisons are not
possible as he has only one antenna connection, so the antenna must be
disconnected from one receiver and then hooked to the other. It
doesn't take long, but it's not true A/B.) That evening there was
nothing heard on the ICOM that could not also be heard on the Grundig
and the Grundig sounded much better (he uses a Radio Shack external
speaker; I used the Grundig's speaker). His radio cost much more than
mine.

My friend likes his ICOM.


I feel that most receiver preferences are subjective. Comes down not to
specs, or even to features, but to what the listener personally likes. My
favorite portable radio of all time is a Grundig Transistor 1000. It has
LW/MW/SW1(49m Europa band)/SW2 (6-16 MHz)/FM. It has no SSB capabilities at
all. It is, however, an outstanding program listening radio, with excellent
sensitivity and selectivity. Not as selective, perhaps, as something with a
sharp ceramic filter, but I have no trouble separating stations on it. It
was made back when Grundig was at the top of it's form, sounds fantastic,
and is quite solidly built. It's no $700 radio, but it does everything
important to me in a SW receiver... (if I want to hear SSB signals, I'll
fire up my ham rig.. )



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Old April 12th 04, 01:23 AM
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I see. I personally own both and in MY opinion, the sat-800 is nowhere near
the performer the STOCK R-75 is. It does "sound" better [.]
The R-75 will hear things the 800 NEVER could. I could go on but you've
obviously made up your mind and I hope your happy with your Sat800. I am.
It makes a dandy clock-radio...



"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message
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Dear Jim,

I have a friend who owns one...


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Old April 12th 04, 02:44 AM
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He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently
snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same
antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving
and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence.
That's the best anyone can do.

Jim Hackett wrote:

I see. I personally own both and in MY opinion, the sat-800 is nowhere near
the performer the STOCK R-75 is. It does "sound" better [.]
The R-75 will hear things the 800 NEVER could. I could go on but you've
obviously made up your mind and I hope your happy with your Sat800. I am.
It makes a dandy clock-radio...

"Lawrence H. Bulk" wrote in message
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Dear Jim,

I have a friend who owns one...


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Old April 12th 04, 04:17 AM
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In article ,
longwave wrote:

He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently
snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same
antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving
and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence.
That's the best anyone can do.


Indeed.

If anyone cares, I will be taking delivery of a new 800 and a little
used 700 this week (probably Tuesday, 4/13). I will be doing extensive
comparisons with my other radios, and will be happy to report my
findings.

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)
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Old April 12th 04, 04:47 AM
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ha hah ah aha ha ......... probably a LOT better than poor old
Covington ......which has gone down hill so much. I liked the nice
river area development in Louisville ... where I live would be
a desert if it wasn't for irrigation.

pretty green hardwood trees out there too ...... !!! oddly enough
( as if there wasn't enough odd things about California to
start with ) ...." everything " here ... all the plant life , for the
most part , is man made and artificial. nothing to do with the
natural local or terrain in any natural way. sure it's fragrant
flowering and green , year around .. and don't get me wrong , thats
nice too ..... BUT ...it's ALL artificial, and unnatural ..kinda
like Disney Land or something. those beautiful hardwood forests and
natural surroundings are quite nice and feels good after so much
stuff like we live in , out here. ( liked the vibrant and LOUD
at night insect life too ..out here we nuked everything for the
farmers and have nothing like that , it adds a lot to the pleasant
natural ambiance )


k....................




On 11 Apr 2004 22:12:21 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

From: krackula


hummmmmmmmm .......... I must have missed something ! I drove
through Louisville , on my way to Covington , Ky last september
and it seemed deshelved , poor ( people didn't have avery high
standard of living ) ...and rather smallish. where are all those
people, prosperity and growth located at ?


Sounds like you drove through the old city's West End. You need to visit
Louisville's east end. All cities have good and bad sides.

Just had a beautiful drive across town today on Louisville's Gene Snyder
Freeway out on the edge of Jefferson Co. Nothing like what you describe.

Still laughing about being dissed by someone from Covington, KY! ;-)I can't
even find Louisville on this
list of top 48 cities / metros of population

http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa122099c.htm

this site says that Louisville is the largest city
IN KENTUCKY ... and 16th in the USA .......
( course it is the CC site ah ahaha , possibly stating that from
some measurement technicality )


Yes, the technicality of total population.


http://www.gotolouisville.com/

hummmmmmmmmmm ......... must be something amiss
somewhere.


Yep. You hit the nail on the tip of your pointy head.

Louisville seemed quite tiny to me ... and rather
poor .... ( low cost houses average price of a house in
my little town is about $387,000 beat cars most old cars
are illegal polluters , out here ...and ... undeveloped metro
spaces , lots of oldish urban decay ) ......... I kinda felt sorry
for many of the towns I went through and Louisville was
definitely one of them. hey what do I know ..??? ...maybe
I misjudged the place !!! haaah ah ahaha ha


The part you saw on your trip through to Covington could fit that description.
But that's nowhere near most of Louisville.

k.....................

btw: I was born in Ky in Covington and lived in harlin county
when " they shot the sheriff " , got my first radio license there
too. the " entire " town of Covington has turned into slums
nowadays .... only about a 3rd of it , was slums when I lived
there. sad to visit my old blue collar neighborhood now ........
everyone probably moved to Louisville


No, just into the other slums of Cincinnati, one of America's most quickly
deteriorating cities.

Louisville's no Nirvana. Good and bad sides. But it does have the 16th highest
population in the US. It's the city's official PR line.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
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Old April 12th 04, 04:55 AM
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I'd appreciate your opinion, Dan.

-- Stinger

"Dan" wrote in message
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In article ,
longwave wrote:

He doesn't need to own both radios to evaluate them. You conveniently
snipped the part where he made a direct comparison using the same
antenna and found that the 800 could hear anything the R75 was receiving
and with better audio. He made up his mind based on real world evidence.
That's the best anyone can do.


Indeed.

If anyone cares, I will be taking delivery of a new 800 and a little
used 700 this week (probably Tuesday, 4/13). I will be doing extensive
comparisons with my other radios, and will be happy to report my
findings.

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)



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