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Jay May 8th 04 04:23 PM

VOA Gone?
 
I drifted away from sw listening for a few months and upon my return seem to
have discovered that I can no longer receive any of my old VOA frequencies.
I used to be able to listen to their Caribbean and Central America feeds
like locals, and during the day I got other feeds, generally pretty well.
Now I can't find them at all.

What are the details of what has happened at VOA and are there any
transmissions still receivable in the Northeast USA?

Jay



N8KDV May 8th 04 04:28 PM



Jay wrote:

I drifted away from sw listening for a few months and upon my return seem to
have discovered that I can no longer receive any of my old VOA frequencies.
I used to be able to listen to their Caribbean and Central America feeds
like locals, and during the day I got other feeds, generally pretty well.
Now I can't find them at all.

What are the details of what has happened at VOA and are there any
transmissions still receivable in the Northeast USA?


The complete VOA sked is available he

http://www.voa.gov/index.cfm?section...%20Frequencies

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm


Jay May 8th 04 04:53 PM

Yes,

That's the first thing I checked, and I found the listing for Caribbean and
Central America is gone (I have on old printout). I haven't had a chance to
try daytime yet but there seem to be no nighttime signals in their current
list which I can hear here.

Any more details on VOA?

Jay
"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Jay wrote:

I drifted away from sw listening for a few months and upon my return

seem to
have discovered that I can no longer receive any of my old VOA

frequencies.
I used to be able to listen to their Caribbean and Central America feeds
like locals, and during the day I got other feeds, generally pretty

well.
Now I can't find them at all.

What are the details of what has happened at VOA and are there any
transmissions still receivable in the Northeast USA?


The complete VOA sked is available he

http://www.voa.gov/index.cfm?section...%20Frequencies

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm




N8KDV May 8th 04 04:56 PM



Jay wrote:

Yes,

That's the first thing I checked, and I found the listing for Caribbean and
Central America is gone (I have on old printout). I haven't had a chance to
try daytime yet but there seem to be no nighttime signals in their current
list which I can hear here.

Any more details on VOA?


What more do you want? That's the damn schedule.

Sheeesh.... You want me to write reception reports for ya too?



JOE May 8th 04 05:07 PM


Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on

any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


Silly you - you clearly haven't noticed this group is about most everything
BUT
shortwave radio anymore. It's all about flame wars between 2 or 3 nutjobs
who think this is their private playground, and about political rantings -
surely
you've noticed that MOST of the posts have some stupid subject line that has
NOTHING to do with radio.

I thought you questions were fine - I'm curious myself if that in 10 years
there
will even be SW radio and Ham radio left as we know it - or will digital
modes
completely eliminate all of it?

JOE



Jay May 8th 04 05:20 PM

Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.

Jay


"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Jay wrote:

Yes,

That's the first thing I checked, and I found the listing for Caribbean

and
Central America is gone (I have on old printout). I haven't had a chance

to
try daytime yet but there seem to be no nighttime signals in their

current
list which I can hear here.

Any more details on VOA?


What more do you want? That's the damn schedule.

Sheeesh.... You want me to write reception reports for ya too?





N8KDV May 8th 04 05:23 PM



Jay wrote:

Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


No anger at all... I gave you the site for the schedule... what more do you
want?

The VOA is audible most anytime here.

Turn your radio on.



N8KDV May 8th 04 05:31 PM



JOE wrote:

Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on

any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


Silly you - you clearly haven't noticed this group is about most everything
BUT
shortwave radio anymore. It's all about flame wars between 2 or 3 nutjobs
who think this is their private playground, and about political rantings -
surely
you've noticed that MOST of the posts have some stupid subject line that has
NOTHING to do with radio.

I thought you questions were fine - I'm curious myself if that in 10 years
there
will even be SW radio and Ham radio left as we know it - or will digital
modes
completely eliminate all of it?


I gave him the schedule, retard... what more could he want other than someone to
hold his hand and help him turn his radio on?

Crap, if ya can't hear the VOA you better find another hobby.



Buster May 8th 04 06:11 PM


"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Jay wrote:

Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone

could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on

any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


No anger at all... I gave you the site for the schedule... what more do

you
want?

The VOA is audible most anytime here.

Turn your radio on.



You sound like a real gentleman!



N8KDV May 8th 04 06:16 PM



Buster wrote:

"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Jay wrote:

Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone

could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on

any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


No anger at all... I gave you the site for the schedule... what more do

you
want?

The VOA is audible most anytime here.

Turn your radio on.



You sound like a real gentleman!


Thanks!



Mike Terry May 8th 04 06:24 PM

Jay,

Don't worry, what you ask is fine and someone hopefully will answer.

Usually dxers are friendly.

73s

Mike


"Jay" wrote in message
.. .
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on

any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.

Jay


"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Jay wrote:

Yes,

That's the first thing I checked, and I found the listing for

Caribbean
and
Central America is gone (I have on old printout). I haven't had a

chance
to
try daytime yet but there seem to be no nighttime signals in their

current
list which I can hear here.

Any more details on VOA?


What more do you want? That's the damn schedule.

Sheeesh.... You want me to write reception reports for ya too?







N8KDV May 8th 04 06:29 PM



Mike Terry wrote:

Jay,

Don't worry, what you ask is fine and someone hopefully will answer.

Usually dxers are friendly.


How much more friendly could I have been other than to refer him to the
schedule, retard?

73s


it's 73, not 73s



N8KDV May 8th 04 06:38 PM



Mike Terry wrote:

Jay,

Don't worry, what you ask is fine and someone hopefully will answer.

Usually dxers are friendly.


And you had no answer for him at all did you?



Jim Hackett May 8th 04 06:39 PM

Yes, there are a few A-holes here. Sorry you had to find one so quickly.
[Killfile]



"Jay" wrote in message
.. .
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on

any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.

Jay


"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Jay wrote:

Yes,

That's the first thing I checked, and I found the listing for

Caribbean
and
Central America is gone (I have on old printout). I haven't had a

chance
to
try daytime yet but there seem to be no nighttime signals in their

current
list which I can hear here.

Any more details on VOA?


What more do you want? That's the damn schedule.

Sheeesh.... You want me to write reception reports for ya too?







Larry Ozarow May 8th 04 06:48 PM

Jeez, Steve, none of the broadcasts on VOA's schedule
are beamed to the Northeastern US. All Jay asked
was if anyone has good experience in this part of the
country with any of their transmissions. It was a perfectly
reasonable question and there was no call to get all
wacky on him.

Go ahead, call me a retard. That's a very clever retort
coming from a middle-aged man, and from you I'll take
it as a compliment.

Oz


N8KDV wrote:


I gave him the schedule, retard... what more could he want other than someone to
hold his hand and help him turn his radio on?

Crap, if ya can't hear the VOA you better find another hobby.



N8KDV May 8th 04 06:52 PM



Larry Ozarow wrote:

Jeez, Steve, none of the broadcasts on VOA's schedule
are beamed to the Northeastern US. All Jay asked
was if anyone has good experience in this part of the
country with any of their transmissions. It was a perfectly
reasonable question and there was no call to get all
wacky on him.

Go ahead, call me a retard. That's a very clever retort
coming from a middle-aged man, and from you I'll take
it as a compliment.

Oz


And I've still provided him with more info than you have...

Your point?



uncle arnie May 8th 04 07:00 PM

On Sat, 08 May 2004 09:23 am -0600 UTC, Jay posted:
%MM

I drifted away from sw listening for a few months and upon my return seem
to have discovered that I can no longer receive any of my old VOA
frequencies. I used to be able to listen to their Caribbean and Central
America feeds like locals, and during the day I got other feeds, generally
pretty well. Now I can't find them at all.

What are the details of what has happened at VOA and are there any
transmissions still receivable in the Northeast USA?

Jay


From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):

He called it "death by 1000 cuts".
VOA's already reduced to 19 hrs/day will soon be cut to 14. Smith-Mundt Act
(I'm not familiar with this) which means the changes are done out of public
view. The board of governors (mixture of commercial broadcasters and
political appointees) prefer spending $ on obscure commercial-sounding
propaganda outlets instead (Radio Free Asia, R. Farda, R. Sawa etc [I don't
know what the etc might be]). Other languages are also being cut. He
wondered if the funding cuts for VOA is b/c their charter maeans gov't
can't interfere and funding other outlets is subject to no such
constraints. He suggests writing to gov't representatives.

---
I'm guessing these cuts have occurred and continue. I don't generally
pursue VOA but have noticed I don't come across it as much when going after
other stations.
--
-UA

uncle arnie May 8th 04 07:04 PM

On Sat, 08 May 2004 10:23 am -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



Jay wrote:

Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on
any signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


No anger at all... I gave you the site for the schedule... what more do
you want?

The VOA is audible most anytime here.

Turn your radio on.


You're DXing too much and not sleeping enough?

Actually, there are more than American-based listeners in the world. VOA is
not available "most anytime" in many locales. And it has reduced its
schedule and number of languages.
--
-UA

N8KDV May 8th 04 07:07 PM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 10:23 am -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



Jay wrote:

Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on
any signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


No anger at all... I gave you the site for the schedule... what more do
you want?

The VOA is audible most anytime here.

Turn your radio on.


You're DXing too much and not sleeping enough?


I get plenty of sleep, you need to learn to read!

Actually, there are more than American-based listeners in the world.


No kidding!

VOA is
not available "most anytime" in many locales. And it has reduced its
schedule and number of languages.


No kidding! It's all in the schedule I provided...

You better wake up!


John Doty May 8th 04 07:20 PM

Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup. Nearly all
posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each other. The best way
I know of to identify a fool is that fools like to argue with people
they consider to be fools.

In answer to your original question, many international broadcasters,
including the VOA, have judged that they get better coverage of their
intended audiences via FM, satellite, and internet broadcasting, at
least in the more developed countries. It has gotten much more difficult
to pick up international shortwave in North America because of this. So
it becomes much more of a research problem: understanding propagation,
look for a broadcast intended for somewhere else that might make it to
your location. I can't give you specifics because I haven't done the
research for the VOA, and in any case, it depends on what part of the
country you live in. It often depends on things like transmitter antenna
sidelobes. It's generally impractical to obtain this information, so you
just have to try a bunch of frequencies to see what you can get. A good
antenna is a must.

-jpd


Dan Robinson May 8th 04 07:23 PM

Suggested email to the House Subcommittee on Appropriations (for) Commerce,
Justice and State Department, or to your own representatives:


Dear Congressman/Senator:

I have observed, along with many Americans in recent weeks and months,
the steady decline in the availability of Voice of America (VOA) programs
using shortwave frequencies.

It is simply outrageous that American citizens, who continue to fund VOA
programs, are no longer able to hear programming that it is otherwise
provided on VOA websites such as "voanews.com" and clearly aimed
at being competitivewith other world news "portals" on the internet.

It is absurd that VOA's considerable news programming continues
to fall under the Smith-Mundt Act, and that this law remains on the books
in the 21st century.

Why hasn't Congress moved to eliminate Smith-Mundt? Does anyone
truly believe, in this day and age, that this law still serves a purpose?

Americans should be able to hear the output of VOA other than through
internet websites, which are themselves, a work-around that effectively
renders Smith-Mundt restrictions moot. VOA should be accessible, as
well, via FM outlets across the United States.

I urge you to address these points in open congressional hearings, and
move to reverse what appears to many who continue to respect VOA's
news output, to be VOA's "death-by-a-thousand-cuts."


N8KDV May 8th 04 07:25 PM



Dan Robinson wrote:

Suggested email to the House Subcommittee on Appropriations (for) Commerce,
Justice and State Department, or to your own representatives:

Dear Congressman/Senator:

I have observed, along with many Americans in recent weeks and months,
the steady decline in the availability of Voice of America (VOA) programs
using shortwave frequencies.

It is simply outrageous that American citizens, who continue to fund VOA
programs, are no longer able to hear programming that it is otherwise
provided on VOA websites such as "voanews.com" and clearly aimed
at being competitivewith other world news "portals" on the internet.

It is absurd that VOA's considerable news programming continues
to fall under the Smith-Mundt Act, and that this law remains on the books
in the 21st century.

Why hasn't Congress moved to eliminate Smith-Mundt? Does anyone
truly believe, in this day and age, that this law still serves a purpose?

Americans should be able to hear the output of VOA other than through
internet websites, which are themselves, a work-around that effectively
renders Smith-Mundt restrictions moot. VOA should be accessible, as
well, via FM outlets across the United States.

I urge you to address these points in open congressional hearings, and
move to reverse what appears to many who continue to respect VOA's
news output, to be VOA's "death-by-a-thousand-cuts."


Good point Dan.



N8KDV May 8th 04 07:37 PM



John Doty wrote:

Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone could
tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could report on any
signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They seemed like
reasonable questions for this forum.


Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup. Nearly all
posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each other. The best way
I know of to identify a fool is that fools like to argue with people
they consider to be fools.


I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the right direction
with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to turn his radio on? Did I not tell
him that the VOA is heard on a regular basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and write reception
reports for him?







uncle arnie May 8th 04 07:42 PM

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:37 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



John Doty wrote:

Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone
could tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could
report on any signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They
seemed like reasonable questions for this forum.


Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup. Nearly all
posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each other. The best way
I know of to identify a fool is that fools like to argue with people
they consider to be fools.


I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the right
direction with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to turn his radio on?
Did I not tell him that the VOA is heard on a regular basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and write
reception reports for him?

The thread is not about what a hero you are. Though it is becoming that.
Think twice, post once.
--
-UA

N8KDV May 8th 04 07:46 PM



Jim Hackett wrote:

Yes, there are a few A-holes here. Sorry you had to find one so quickly.


Get a grip retard, and try and polish up those DXing skills!

I gave the boy the info on where to find the VOA, if he can't figure out how to
utilise it then as I asked, what should I do, go turn on his radio and help him
tune it?


N8KDV May 8th 04 07:47 PM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:37 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



John Doty wrote:

Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone
could tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could
report on any signals they might still be able to receive for VOA. They
seemed like reasonable questions for this forum.

Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup. Nearly all
posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each other. The best way
I know of to identify a fool is that fools like to argue with people
they consider to be fools.


I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the right
direction with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to turn his radio on?
Did I not tell him that the VOA is heard on a regular basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and write
reception reports for him?

The thread is not about what a hero you are.


When have I ever claimed to be a 'hero', retard?



uncle arnie May 8th 04 07:49 PM

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:46 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



Jim Hackett wrote:

Yes, there are a few A-holes here. Sorry you had to find one so quickly.


Get a grip retard, and try and polish up those DXing skills!

I gave the boy the info on where to find the VOA, if he can't figure out
how to utilise it then as I asked, what should I do, go turn on his radio
and help him tune it?


No.
Just stop repeating this over and over.
--
-UA

N8KDV May 8th 04 07:52 PM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:46 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



Jim Hackett wrote:

Yes, there are a few A-holes here. Sorry you had to find one so quickly.


Get a grip retard, and try and polish up those DXing skills!

I gave the boy the info on where to find the VOA, if he can't figure out
how to utilise it then as I asked, what should I do, go turn on his radio
and help him tune it?


No.
Just stop repeating this over and over.


OK, as soon as I'm sure you understand it, **** for brains!



Michael Bryant May 8th 04 08:00 PM

From: uncle arnie

Think twice, post once.


That's twice as much as Steve is capable of!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

uncle arnie May 8th 04 08:02 PM

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:47 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:37 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



John Doty wrote:

Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone
could tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could
report on any signals they might still be able to receive for VOA.
They seemed like reasonable questions for this forum.

Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup. Nearly all
posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each other. The best
way I know of to identify a fool is that fools like to argue with
people they consider to be fools.

I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the right
direction with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to turn his radio
on? Did I not tell him that the VOA is heard on a regular basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and write
reception reports for him?

The thread is not about what a hero you are.


When have I ever claimed to be a 'hero', retard?


Your repeated post with the same content labels you. You're correct, your
posting behavior merits descriptions other than 'hero' for doing do.
Please recognize that your posts on this thread are repetitive. You want
recognition that you "answered his question did [you] not? ....". So it is
recognized that you're repeatedly posted this. So helpfully. So many
times. Thanks so much!

And here's another piece of what you cut:
*
Think twice, post once.


--
-UA

Michael Bryant May 8th 04 08:02 PM

From: uncle arnie

No.
Just stop repeating this over and over.
--


If you haven't figured it out by now, the NG's Master DX Centurion isn't
original enough to avoid his words ad infinitum.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

N8KDV May 8th 04 08:06 PM



Michael 'My momma sure didn't raise me right' Bryant wrote:

From: uncle arnie


Think twice, post once.


That's twice as much as Steve is capable of!


And you Fat Boy... Think one, fabricate twice?



N8KDV May 8th 04 08:08 PM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:47 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:37 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



John Doty wrote:

Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if anyone
could tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if anyone could
report on any signals they might still be able to receive for VOA.
They seemed like reasonable questions for this forum.

Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup. Nearly all
posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each other. The best
way I know of to identify a fool is that fools like to argue with
people they consider to be fools.

I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the right
direction with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to turn his radio
on? Did I not tell him that the VOA is heard on a regular basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and write
reception reports for him?

The thread is not about what a hero you are.


When have I ever claimed to be a 'hero', retard?


Your repeated post with the same content labels you. You're correct, your
posting behavior merits descriptions other than 'hero' for doing do.
Please recognize that your posts on this thread are repetitive. You want
recognition that you "answered his question did [you] not? ....". So it is
recognized that you're repeatedly posted this. So helpfully. So many
times. Thanks so much!

And here's another piece of what you cut:

Think twice, post once.


And you've still provided no useful info on the VOA...



N8KDV May 8th 04 08:09 PM



Michael 'I can't even find a radio let alone listen to it' Bryant wrote:

From: uncle arnie


No.
Just stop repeating this over and over.
--


If you haven't figured it out by now, the NG's Master DX Centurion isn't
original enough to avoid his words ad infinitum.


And you've provided no info on the VOA have you....

At least I provided the sked, and attempted to point him in the right
direction.



uncle arnie May 8th 04 08:10 PM

On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:08 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:47 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:37 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



John Doty wrote:

Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if
anyone could tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if
anyone could report on any signals they might still be able to
receive for VOA. They seemed like reasonable questions for this
forum.

Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup. Nearly
all posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each other. The
best way I know of to identify a fool is that fools like to argue
with people they consider to be fools.

I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the right
direction with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to turn his
radio on? Did I not tell him that the VOA is heard on a regular
basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and
write reception reports for him?

The thread is not about what a hero you are.

When have I ever claimed to be a 'hero', retard?


Your repeated post with the same content labels you. You're correct,
your posting behavior merits descriptions other than 'hero' for doing do.
Please recognize that your posts on this thread are repetitive. You want
recognition that you "answered his question did [you] not? ....". So it
is
recognized that you're repeatedly posted this. So helpfully. So many
times. Thanks so much!

And here's another piece of what you cut:

Think twice, post once.


And you've still provided no useful info on the VOA...


Yes I have. see:
quoted below.


From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):



From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):

He called it "death by 1000 cuts".
VOA's already reduced to 19 hrs/day will soon be cut to 14. Smith-Mundt

Act
(I'm not familiar with this) which means the changes are done out of

public
view. The board of governors**(mixture*of*commercial*broadcasters*and
political appointees) prefer spending $ on obscure commercial-sounding
propaganda outlets instead (Radio Free Asia, R. Farda, R. Sawa etc [I

don't
know what the etc might be]).**Other*languages*are*also*being*cut.**He
wondered if the funding cuts for VOA is b/c their charter maeans gov't
can't interfere and funding other outlets is subject to no such
constraints.**He*suggests*writing*to*gov't*represe ntatives.**

---
I'm guessing these cuts have occurred and continue.**I*don't*generally
pursue VOA but have noticed I don't come across it as much when going

after
other stations.**
He called it "death by 1000 cuts".
--
-UA


N8KDV May 8th 04 08:14 PM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:08 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:47 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:37 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



John Doty wrote:

Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if
anyone could tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if
anyone could report on any signals they might still be able to
receive for VOA. They seemed like reasonable questions for this
forum.

Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup. Nearly
all posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each other. The
best way I know of to identify a fool is that fools like to argue
with people they consider to be fools.

I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the right
direction with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to turn his
radio on? Did I not tell him that the VOA is heard on a regular
basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and
write reception reports for him?

The thread is not about what a hero you are.

When have I ever claimed to be a 'hero', retard?

Your repeated post with the same content labels you. You're correct,
your posting behavior merits descriptions other than 'hero' for doing do.
Please recognize that your posts on this thread are repetitive. You want
recognition that you "answered his question did [you] not? ....". So it
is
recognized that you're repeatedly posted this. So helpfully. So many
times. Thanks so much!

And here's another piece of what you cut:

Think twice, post once.


And you've still provided no useful info on the VOA...


Yes I have. see:
quoted below.

From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):



From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):

He called it "death by 1000 cuts".
VOA's already reduced to 19 hrs/day will soon be cut to 14. Smith-Mundt

Act
(I'm not familiar with this) which means the changes are done out of

public
view. The board of governors (mixture of commercial broadcasters and
political appointees) prefer spending $ on obscure commercial-sounding
propaganda outlets instead (Radio Free Asia, R. Farda, R. Sawa etc [I

don't
know what the etc might be]). Other languages are also being cut. He
wondered if the funding cuts for VOA is b/c their charter maeans gov't
can't interfere and funding other outlets is subject to no such
constraints. He suggests writing to gov't representatives.

---
I'm guessing these cuts have occurred and continue. I don't generally
pursue VOA but have noticed I don't come across it as much when going

after
other stations.
He called it "death by 1000 cuts".
--
-UA


That's nice, but hardly useful for someone trying to tune the VOA in on a
radio....

Nice try...



N8KDV May 8th 04 08:16 PM



Michael 'I cain't DX' Bryant wrote:

From: uncle arnie


No.
Just stop repeating this over and over.
--


If you haven't figured it out by now, the NG's Master DX Centurion isn't
original enough to avoid his words ad infinitum.


At least I am a Master DX Centurion... and you're not!

You're not a PhD either..!



uncle arnie May 8th 04 08:26 PM

On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:14 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM


Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if
anyone could tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if
anyone could report on any signals they might still be able to
receive for VOA. They seemed like reasonable questions for
this forum.

Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup.
Nearly all posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each
other. The best way I know of to identify a fool is that fools
like to argue with people they consider to be fools.

I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the
right direction with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to
turn his radio on? Did I not tell him that the VOA is heard on a
regular basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and
write reception reports for him?

The thread is not about what a hero you are.

When have I ever claimed to be a 'hero', retard?

Your repeated post with the same content labels you. You're correct,
your posting behavior merits descriptions other than 'hero' for doing
do.
Please recognize that your posts on this thread are repetitive. You
want
recognition that you "answered his question did [you] not? ....". So
it is
recognized that you're repeatedly posted this. So helpfully. So many
times. Thanks so much!

And here's another piece of what you cut:

Think twice, post once.

And you've still provided no useful info on the VOA...


Yes I have. see:
quoted below.

From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):



From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):

He called it "death by 1000 cuts".
VOA's already reduced to 19 hrs/day will soon be cut to 14. Smith-Mundt

Act
(I'm not familiar with this) which means the changes are done out of

public
view. The board of governors (mixture of commercial broadcasters and
political appointees) prefer spending $ on obscure commercial-sounding
propaganda outlets instead (Radio Free Asia, R. Farda, R. Sawa etc [I

don't
know what the etc might be]). Other languages are also being cut. He
wondered if the funding cuts for VOA is b/c their charter maeans gov't
can't interfere and funding other outlets is subject to no such
constraints. He suggests writing to gov't representatives.

---
I'm guessing these cuts have occurred and continue. I don't generally
pursue VOA but have noticed I don't come across it as much when going

after
other stations.
He called it "death by 1000 cuts".



That's nice, but hardly useful for someone trying to tune the VOA in on a
radio....

Nice try...


The original post contained the following:

What are the details of what has happened at VOA and are there any
transmissions still receivable in the Northeast USA?


I answered the first part. You repetitively answered the second, and not
nicely. Notice that the original poster's initial response about "causing
you so much anger".


uncle arnie May 8th 04 08:28 PM

On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:16 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM



Michael 'I cain't DX' Bryant wrote:

From: uncle arnie


No.
Just stop repeating this over and over.
--


If you haven't figured it out by now, the NG's Master DX Centurion isn't
original enough to avoid his words ad infinitum.


At least I am a Master DX Centurion...


And my hero!


N8KDV May 8th 04 08:30 PM



uncle arnie wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 01:14 pm -0600 UTC, N8KDV
posted: %MM


Jay wrote:
Sorry my questions caused you so much anger. I was asking if
anyone could tell me about what is going on at the VOA and if
anyone could report on any signals they might still be able to
receive for VOA. They seemed like reasonable questions for
this forum.

Shortwave has pretty much disappeared from this newsgroup.
Nearly all posts are by closed-minded ideologues berating each
other. The best way I know of to identify a fool is that fools
like to argue with people they consider to be fools.

I answered his question did I not? Did I not point him in the
right direction with the schedule info? Did I not tell him to
turn his radio on? Did I not tell him that the VOA is heard on a
regular basis?

Once again I have to ask, should I go help him tune his radio and
write reception reports for him?

The thread is not about what a hero you are.

When have I ever claimed to be a 'hero', retard?

Your repeated post with the same content labels you. You're correct,
your posting behavior merits descriptions other than 'hero' for doing
do.
Please recognize that your posts on this thread are repetitive. You
want
recognition that you "answered his question did [you] not? ....". So
it is
recognized that you're repeatedly posted this. So helpfully. So many
times. Thanks so much!

And here's another piece of what you cut:

Think twice, post once.

And you've still provided no useful info on the VOA...

Yes I have. see:
quoted below.

From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):


From April/2004 Monitoring Times:
John Figliozzi writes on p 44 (summary in my words):

He called it "death by 1000 cuts".
VOA's already reduced to 19 hrs/day will soon be cut to 14. Smith-Mundt
Act
(I'm not familiar with this) which means the changes are done out of
public
view. The board of governors (mixture of commercial broadcasters and
political appointees) prefer spending $ on obscure commercial-sounding
propaganda outlets instead (Radio Free Asia, R. Farda, R. Sawa etc [I
don't
know what the etc might be]). Other languages are also being cut. He
wondered if the funding cuts for VOA is b/c their charter maeans gov't
can't interfere and funding other outlets is subject to no such
constraints. He suggests writing to gov't representatives.

---
I'm guessing these cuts have occurred and continue. I don't generally
pursue VOA but have noticed I don't come across it as much when going
after
other stations.
He called it "death by 1000 cuts".



That's nice, but hardly useful for someone trying to tune the VOA in on a
radio....

Nice try...


The original post contained the following:

What are the details of what has happened at VOA and are there any
transmissions still receivable in the Northeast USA?


I answered the first part. You repetitively answered the second, and not
nicely. Notice that the original poster's initial response about "causing
you so much anger".


I have absolutely no control over what his initial response was, retard. And I
was not, and am not angry... get over it ****wad.




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