"Daniel J. Stern" wrote in message in.umich.edu...
On Mon, 17 May 2004, David wrote:

People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less
Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a
long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static
and flanging.

Not to mention the fact that countries are going off shortwave wholesale.
BBC's gone, India's gone, Ausria's almost gone...guess if you want to hear
China, you can do that...

I can pretty much find stuff to listen to 6am till midnight...
Late at night theres Aussie radio...
I can handle a little static.
It was no problem listening to a PL230 strapped to my sunroof handle
till I sold that car.
Now I have no sunroof.
I was just wonderin if it would work.
(the converter)
I have steering wheel radio controls so I don't want to redesign the
whole car.
Or get a new steering wheel....
I really wouldn't mind the FrigiKing look.
(It's really not all that big anyway)
Status,style,prestige,impressing the herd and cutting edge hi-tech
mean very little to me.
Sad-o-light radio costs money.
Perhaps if people refused to pay for television,cabal TV would have
been free.
( I've see idiots paying $80.00 a month to get their brains
constipated !)
And what do they get for that?
They get to pay for Dizzney wether they watch it or not.
(And feed the rat)
or they are forced to foot the bill for mind numbing gladitorial
sports stations wether they watch them or not.
Nope....
Poo poo on XM


Thanx anyway!

"Daniel J. Stern" wrote in message in.umich.edu...
On Mon, 17 May 2004, David wrote:

People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less
Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes a
long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with static
and flanging.

Not to mention the fact that countries are going off shortwave wholesale.
BBC's gone, India's gone, Ausria's almost gone...guess if you want to hear
China, you can do that...

I can pretty much find stuff to listen to 6am till midnight...
Late at night theres Aussie radio...
I can handle a little static.
It was no problem listening to a PL230 strapped to my sunroof handle
till I sold that car.
Now I have no sunroof.
I was just wonderin if it would work.
(the converter)
I have steering wheel radio controls so I don't want to redesign the
whole car.
Or get a new steering wheel....
I really wouldn't mind the FrigiKing look.
(It's really not all that big anyway)
Status,style,prestige,impressing the herd and cutting edge hi-tech
mean very little to me.
Sad-o-light radio costs money.
Perhaps if people refused to pay for television,cabal TV would have
been free.
( I've see idiots paying $80.00 a month to get their brains
constipated !)
And what do they get for that?
They get to pay for Dizzney wether they watch it or not.
(And feed the rat)
or they are forced to foot the bill for mind numbing gladitorial
sports stations wether they watch them or not.
Nope....
Poo poo on XM


Thanx anyway!

David wrote in message . ..
I bet the chicks really dig it...

I'm a chick.

And....I dig Johhny Lightning!(and Tim Tron)
But perhaps most J-Low loving bimbo's wouldn't .
(Which is cool)

It's more fun to swim with the salmons!


On Tue, 18 May 2004 21:06:21 -0400, starman wrote:

David wrote:

You're kidding, right?

Gonna hang an R-8B under the dash like a FrigiKing aftermarket air
conditioner out of the J. C. Whitney catalog?

People listen to shortwave radio mainly for the diversity and the less
Anglocentric viewpoints. Satellite radio, in particular Sirius, goes
a long way to satisfying that need, without driving you batty with
static and flanging.

On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:44:30 GMT, Tony P.
wrote:

In article ,
says...
aside from the fact that it ain't free anymore...

There are lots of high end communications receivers that mount very
nicely in cars. They are made by cos. like Yaesu, Kenwood etc.

They aren't cheap - probably start around $500 but you can listen to
everything.

No he wasn't kidding. I use a Drake SW8 in the car with a roof mounted
whip antenna. I run the audio through the car stereo. Works great.


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(Lawrence H. Bulk) wrote in message om...
Look into the MFJ-306. It is a short wave converter which works with
the AM section of your car radio. It is not a kit and is very easy to
install in a car. It works quite well and is relatively inexpensive
(under $100). It picks up the entire 49, 31, 25, and 19 meter bands.
Unfortunately it does not receive the 41 meter band (so no WBCQ on
7415); I don't know whether this will preclude your having interest in
this unit. I have one and I like it. You can buy it direct from MFJ or
from Universal.

Thanks!
(It could be worth looking into)
But I do like the BCQ on the weekends...


(I wonder ...I have an antenna input on my Tecsun PL230 but it's a
small plug perhaps some kind of antenna adapter and getting it hooked
up to the car antenna?)
Hmmm
I tried to clip a wire to the antenna and hung a wire out of the
sunroof when I first started taking my shortwave in the other car but
it was all buzzy before strapping it to the sunroof handle and getting
the regualr antenna out of the car.



Lawrence

(ex_cathedra) wrote in message . com...
I am hooked on shortwave.
I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave.
(Especially on weekends WBCQ)
So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits
and I know someone who could build it for me)
But he says that this would only be able to pick up 2 stations.
I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car.
(PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio.

(Jim) wrote in message ...
i have experience with converters. i even built one with eight crystal
sockets to cover several bands! just calculate the crystal needed to
cover whatever you want to hear. my advise is to keep your portable and
put your time into rigging an outside antenna for your car, perhaps a
modified cb antenna. the converters work but are a pain to calculate
what frequency you are on. the portable radio will beat it on
convenience and performance, no matter how cheap it is.

Thanks!

Thats probably the least expensive and most practical solution.

( I don't know anything about crystals !)

This car is mostly fiberglass or plastic....
I tried clipping a wire from the antenna (not the external antenna
input) to an old magnetic cb antenna we had laying around in the
garage with my steel car.
It worked great till I brought the radio inside the car =-(
Once that antenna gets inside the car out goes the reception.

Would the fact that I didn't use the external antenna input have made
a difference?
This car doesn't have any good place good to attach a magnetic cb
antenna either.
Ya think a wire to the regular car radio antenna going to the
external input would work ?

John David Galt wrote in message ...
Please learn to format correctly, and post to only one group.

Oh poo.

You're no fun.

"S Narayan" wrote in message ...
Sony radios are cheap and you get the usual bands + SW. I have something
similar to this in my Integra. It's a pain to tune (though you can preset a
total of 12 stations in the upper and lower SW bands). Also ignition noise
could be an issue depending on the antenna placement and noise rejection
techniques used.

Go to the bottom of the link.
http://www.durhamradio.com/shortwave-sony.htm


Thanks !

That one looks pretty cool!

I looked it up on google and saw one for only $189
If all else fails (all my radio controls are on my steerig wheel in
this car) this one could be good,but my steering wheel might not like
it =-)



"ex_cathedra" wrote in message
om...
I am hooked on shortwave.
I have killed my TV a long time ago and now even NPR has become
affiliated with Clearchannel® and it's reflected in the programming.
=-0=========b l e c h ==
So since I've found out my shortwave radio comes in as good as you
can expect by clipping a wire to the bike (almost anywhere)
I started to take a TECSUN PL 230 with me in the car,and have been
strapping it to the sunroof(with the armband part of an old sports AM
FM radio ) handle and was listening to SW in my car a lot.
As long as the antenna is sticking out of the sunroof it comes in
pretty good.
So ....I sold this car and the new one doesn't have a sunroof.
=-(
I'm no radio expert...but I like the shortwave.
(Especially on weekends WBCQ)
I looked for shortwave radios for cars because someone I know used to
have British sportscars and said that they often had shortwave radios.
I also saw Mercedes had shortwave converters o ebay.
But I don't have a Mercedes =-(
Then there was a Subaru radio that had SW.
But I don't think it would fit in my car.
So....I looked up SW converters on google and there are these kits
(and I know someone who could build it for me)
But he says that this would nly be able to pick up 2 stations.
I have old radios here with SW and they have SW1 and SW2 ...
So they seem to get pretty much everything.
So my question is....
Has anybody ever tried these converters,and will they be able to get
the whole SW1 and SW2 ?
(Like from 2.3 to 23.0 ?)
If so I'm buying one.
This is one of them from a google search.
http://www.outpost.com/product/1743108
They all look pretty much the same.
I think it would be a lot cooler than XM in the car.
(PeeeYeww) That'll be the day I pay for radio.
(I still have never had cabal TV or Sad-ellite)
Paying for TV and now radio sets a bad example for broadcasters.




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"ex_cathedra" wrote
| I tried clipping a wire from the antenna (not the external antenna
| input) to an old magnetic cb antenna we had laying around in the
| garage with my steel car.
| It worked great till I brought the radio inside the car =-(
| Once that antenna gets inside the car out goes the reception.

The best bet of all is to buy a trunk - lip - mount CB antenna,
should be around 20 bucks or so. The antenna will mount to
your front (hood) door edge, on either the right or left. So,
instead of being "trunk mounted," it's "hood mounted.

Run the cable through a grommet in your firewall. You will
have to experiment with locating the wire. If it's close to a
computer chip, it will get noisy (likewise the alternator, coil,
distributor, or spark plugs).

Now, if you don't mind "ugly," you can simply trail the cable
along your front door pillar, and lead in through a window
(rolled up, of course). You might want to pick up a cheap
preamplifier kit from Ramsey Electronics if you're good with
a soldering iron. Short out the coil inside the base of the CB
antenna so it will not resonate on the CB band only.

There you go, for a total cost of thirty or forty bucks, you have
an outstanding, all - purpose antenna that works well for HF
reception.

73,

Steve Lawrence
KAØPMD
Burnsville, Minnesota

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XM doesn't carry ''SW Broadcasters''. Sirius does.

On 21 May 2004 00:14:10 -0700, (ex_cathedra)
wrote:


Poo poo on XM


Thanx anyway!

The best bet of all is to buy a trunk - lip - mount CB antenna,
should be around 20 bucks or so. The antenna will mount to
your front (hood) door edge, on either the right or left. So,
instead of being "trunk mounted," it's "hood mounted.

Do not use a CB antenna that has any kind of loading coil, either in the
middle or base. It will limit the frequency range of the antenna for
shortwave reception. A long whip is best, such as a 1/4 wavelength CB
antenna with no coil. Radio Shack sells them.


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