There's no way streaming audio on the Internet can replace shortwave. For
one thing, shortwave is broadcast. That's the reason it exists. Anybody can
pick it up, free of charge, even with a very inexpensive radio. If a major
catastrophe should happen, anywhere in the world, there's always shortwave
radio to fall back on. Shortwave is always there. The internet is more of a
narrow cast thing to an elite audience with the wherewithall to have a good
computer and a fast, reliable internet connection from an ISP that doesn't
charge if a certain amount of usage is exceeded. So you want to listen to
radio out in the boondocks or out in the yard? You can do that easily with a
broadcast receiver. How the heck do you do that using the internet without
an elaborate wireless router system and a good laptop computer if at home,
or at all if away from civilizaition? There's just too much technological
overhead. Even if you do have access, anyone spending a few hours using the
Internet knows how frustrating it can be. Digital wants your butt at home in
front of a computer desk, no matter whether it's digital photography, the
Internet, or whatever. It's the very antithesis of why shortwave exists in
the first place.

Pierre


"Richard" wrote in message
...

Ah!, But you are presuming all have access to the Internet, and many
staions - like VOA, BBC, etc are aimed at second and third world internet
access is poor at best.

This will be the great break on the Internet replacing short wave

Boy are you in your own little world. International shortwave
broadcasts from any country that is not sponsored by a religious group
cost that country money. Usually used for propaganda by the nazis,
communists, anarchist or some political nut case. These countries are
in a budget cutting era and they are finding that with satellite and
internet and cable that they can reach more people with fewer of their
dollars expended. They really don't care about the poor African with
the wind up radio. That's for their little country to deal with.
Is shortwave dead. Yes, as we now know it. Programming and broadcast
hours is getting smaller all the time. The world is trying to keep up
with it self and get into the 21st century.
Now tell me how Amateur Radio is the savior of military communications
and in a national emercency the Hams will come through with jammed
repeaters and morse code. Just another hobby that is dead or will be
shortly.
Money talks and the international broadcasters know that the money
isn't with shortwave radio.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.


"Pierre" wrote in message m...
There's no way streaming audio on the Internet can replace shortwave. For
one thing, shortwave is broadcast. That's the reason it exists. Anybody can
pick it up, free of charge, even with a very inexpensive radio. If a major
catastrophe should happen, anywhere in the world, there's always shortwave
radio to fall back on. Shortwave is always there. The internet is more of a
narrow cast thing to an elite audience with the wherewithall to have a good
computer and a fast, reliable internet connection from an ISP that doesn't
charge if a certain amount of usage is exceeded. So you want to listen to
radio out in the boondocks or out in the yard? You can do that easily with a
broadcast receiver. How the heck do you do that using the internet without
an elaborate wireless router system and a good laptop computer if at home,
or at all if away from civilizaition? There's just too much technological
overhead. Even if you do have access, anyone spending a few hours using the
Internet knows how frustrating it can be. Digital wants your butt at home in
front of a computer desk, no matter whether it's digital photography, the
Internet, or whatever. It's the very antithesis of why shortwave exists in
the first place.

Pierre


"Richard" wrote in message
...

Ah!, But you are presuming all have access to the Internet, and many
staions - like VOA, BBC, etc are aimed at second and third world internet
access is poor at best.

This will be the great break on the Internet replacing short wave

Just another chicken little announcing the sky is falling.
Pierre

"no_spam_here" wrote in message
om...
Boy are you in your own little world. International shortwave
broadcasts from any country that is not sponsored by a religious group
cost that country money. Usually used for propaganda by the nazis,
communists, anarchist or some political nut case. These countries are
in a budget cutting era and they are finding that with satellite and
internet and cable that they can reach more people with fewer of their
dollars expended. They really don't care about the poor African with
the wind up radio. That's for their little country to deal with.
Is shortwave dead. Yes, as we now know it. Programming and broadcast
hours is getting smaller all the time. The world is trying to keep up
with it self and get into the 21st century.
Now tell me how Amateur Radio is the savior of military communications
and in a national emercency the Hams will come through with jammed
repeaters and morse code. Just another hobby that is dead or will be
shortly.
Money talks and the international broadcasters know that the money
isn't with shortwave radio.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.


"Pierre" wrote in message
m...
There's no way streaming audio on the Internet can replace shortwave.
For
one thing, shortwave is broadcast. That's the reason it exists. Anybody
can
pick it up, free of charge, even with a very inexpensive radio. If a
major
catastrophe should happen, anywhere in the world, there's always
shortwave
radio to fall back on. Shortwave is always there. The internet is more
of a
narrow cast thing to an elite audience with the wherewithall to have a
good
computer and a fast, reliable internet connection from an ISP that
doesn't
charge if a certain amount of usage is exceeded. So you want to listen
to
radio out in the boondocks or out in the yard? You can do that easily
with a
broadcast receiver. How the heck do you do that using the internet
without
an elaborate wireless router system and a good laptop computer if at
home,
or at all if away from civilizaition? There's just too much
technological
overhead. Even if you do have access, anyone spending a few hours using
the
Internet knows how frustrating it can be. Digital wants your butt at
home in
front of a computer desk, no matter whether it's digital photography,
the
Internet, or whatever. It's the very antithesis of why shortwave exists
in
the first place.

Pierre


"Richard" wrote in message
...

Ah!, But you are presuming all have access to the Internet, and many
staions - like VOA, BBC, etc are aimed at second and third world
internet
access is poor at best.

This will be the great break on the Internet replacing short wave

"no_spam_here" wrote in message
om...

[snip]

These countries are
in a budget cutting era and they are finding that with satellite and
internet and cable that they can reach more people with fewer of their
dollars expended.

[snip]

If they really want to save money, they can just stop making shows. I
really doubt there is much return for the sort of public diplomacy
broadcasting which is in decline. For example, I'm sure Radio Nederland has
spent alot of money making shows in the English language. Just what do they
get for it? Maybe (or maybe not) a few more tourists?

International Broadcasting is a source of news and entertainment for it's
listners. But does that justify the expense?

Frank Dresser

"no_spam_here" wrote in message
om...

[snip]

They really don't care about the poor African with
the wind up radio. That's for their little country to deal with.


[snip]

They should want to get a message to the poor African, and so should we. A
couple of sects of Islamic fundamentalists have declared war on Western
Civilization. There is a propaganda battle between them and us now. The
Osama bin :Ladens of the world would be very pleased if we didn't bother
fighting his propaganda in the third world.

Frank Dresser