tommyknocker wrote:

I was listening to the BBC tonight (0300 Nov 25) and they had a long
report on whether or not the Ukraine is headed for a civil war. Their
presidential election was rigged by Russia, and nobody in Ukraine is
accepting the "winner". The US has said that it will not accept the
"winner". There are massive demonstrations there, the squares are filled
with people all day and all night, and the "loser" is calling for a
general strike. Why do the Ukrainians have more courage than the
Americans? America has had TWO rigged presidential elections in a row
and nobody is protesting-sure they're grumbling, but there are no
massive demonstrations and general strikes. Why isn't there a civil war
in America over America's rigged presidential elections? Why wasn't
there one in 2000? Are Americans too weak and stupid to recognize when
they've been had? Hats off to the Ukranians-they understand democracy.
Americans apparently don't.

I always find it interesting when the supporters of the 'loser' claim an election was
rigged.

If John Fraud Kerry would have won you'd be singing praises to the American public, of
the electoral system, etc., etc.

I have no idea what is going on in the Ukraine, but I think to compare the Ukraine to
the USA is a bit much.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 12:36 am, dxAce posted to
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I have no idea what is going on in the Ukraine, but I think to compare the
Ukraine to the USA is a bit much.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ukraine tried to have a legit election but the incumbent president did rig
it. I've heard reports from observers that stated eye witness accounts of
things like: extra ballot boxes showing up at a polling station (i.e.,
there are more boxes present when counting than were present when voting
was going on), more that 100% of a constituency or poll accounted for in
votes counted, hiding and stealing of ballot boxes. The witness quoted was
a Canadian member of parliament whose name I can't recall.

So no, the US election was not like that. Ukraine used paper ballots and
made X's, no computer machine voting nor hole punching. I don't think there
were any allegations like the 4 years ago issues with Florida in the USA
election, at least none reported that I have heard.