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but it has a min Farnsworth of 15wpm. I would like to get it closer to test standards as in between 7 and 10. the rest of the site is superb. a great boon to all of us who see that Extra in the sky!! thanks chas K5DAM The VECs have pretty much settled on the following standard for code testing: Character speed: 15wpm Word speed: 5wpm Tone: 750 Hz Translation: 13 WPM, SPACED FOR 5 WPM So the 15wpm minimum Farnsworth that you are finding is what you need. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Dee is correct-- and, consider this-- the characters are sent at a higher speed (13 wpm), then required (5 WPM) , which allows you EXTRA (no pun intended!) time to think of what that character was! And, as I remember (am a VEC) this is the format the test is sent in! Consider that 1) If you memorize the code (mental lookup chart), you can do 5-7 WPM with ease, and 2) That which you hate (I was there as a Tech, 25 years ago), becomes a interesting new language (and can be frustrating, I know , have guys worked with copied over 20 WPM, includeing an old WWII MARINE, hadn't used it in 25 years, then-- copied 25 WPM while I pulling out my hair listening to it! But now, kinda enjoy "reading the mail"-- Just takeing notes on what is being sent. When you are REALLY there, you will KNOW it! you will start hearing sylibals, then whole common words-- when you get the real hang of it, its like listening to a conversation! Main thing- DONT SELL YOURSELF SHORT! Give it a go, and good luck! Jim NN7K |