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Old April 9th 05, 12:54 AM
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Passport Required To Re-Enter U.S.


4/5/2005 11:00 PM
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Better have a passport the next time you plan to go to Canada, it'll soon

be
the law.

The Departments of State and Homeland Security announced the "Western
Hemisphere Travel Initiative" today. It will require all U.S. citizens,
Canadians, Mexicans, and citizens of Bermuda to have a passport to enter

or
re-enter the U.S.

Currently Americans only have to show their driver's license or another
government approved ID.

The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act passed last December

by
Congress mandates this change.

Assistant Secretary Of State Maura Harty says, "The Western Hemisphere
Travel Initiative is an important step in protecting homeland security and
DHS and the State Department will use all available resources to implement
this travel initiative by the deadline set forth in law."

Americans will have to display documentation to get back into the U.S., if
traveling by land or sea, by the end of 2005. That expands to all travel

to
the U.S. by 2006.



C'mon folks.. you have known me long enough to know that I am a long ways
from a Left Wingnut (or a Right Wingnut for that matter). This is a
restriction on OUR travel as much as it is for others. We've had open
borders with our neighbors for over a century. This will restrict tourism,
commerce and other things vital to our economy. Do we really want to lose
the right to travel freely between us and our neighboring countries, along
with billions of tourist dollars, just for a bit of security that won't even
be there? Think about it folks.. criminals don't give a damn what the law
is, they just go around it. If someone wants to get in to do us harm,
they'll find a way to do it without going through a checkpoint.. just like
background checks for gun sales doesn't even slow down a criminal who wants
a gun... how many of them do you suppose even buys a gun?


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Old April 9th 05, 01:21 AM
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Naww....

Just common sense.. You have to show a passport to leave; so you flash
one coming back in;
- answer the questions, & you're on your way..

& most euro's have passports, so it Won't restrict tourism ..
&
We Don't lose the right to travel freely..
Trave anywhere you want..
Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia , North Korea
( joke here.. )

just needing a U.S Passport to get in

keeps the riff raff out..

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Old April 9th 05, 12:31 PM
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& most euro's have passports, ...


Interesting you mention Europe - there is less passport control in Europe
now than there used to be, thanks to the Maastricht Treaty. If you live in,
say Germany, you can cross many borders without stopping and showing any
identification.

Mark.
Auckland
New Zealand.


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Old April 9th 05, 02:57 AM
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Brenda Ann wrote:


"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Passport Required To Re-Enter U.S.


4/5/2005 11:00 PM
(WROC-TV)

Better have a passport the next time you plan to go to Canada, it'll soon

be
the law.

The Departments of State and Homeland Security announced the "Western
Hemisphere Travel Initiative" today. It will require all U.S. citizens,
Canadians, Mexicans, and citizens of Bermuda to have a passport to enter

or
re-enter the U.S.

Currently Americans only have to show their driver's license or another
government approved ID.

The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act passed last December

by
Congress mandates this change.

Assistant Secretary Of State Maura Harty says, "The Western Hemisphere
Travel Initiative is an important step in protecting homeland security and
DHS and the State Department will use all available resources to implement
this travel initiative by the deadline set forth in law."

Americans will have to display documentation to get back into the U.S., if
traveling by land or sea, by the end of 2005. That expands to all travel

to
the U.S. by 2006.



C'mon folks.. you have known me long enough to know that I am a long ways
from a Left Wingnut (or a Right Wingnut for that matter). This is a
restriction on OUR travel as much as it is for others. We've had open
borders with our neighbors for over a century. This will restrict tourism,
commerce and other things vital to our economy. Do we really want to lose
the right to travel freely between us and our neighboring countries, along
with billions of tourist dollars, just for a bit of security that won't even
be there? Think about it folks.. criminals don't give a damn what the law
is, they just go around it. If someone wants to get in to do us harm,
they'll find a way to do it without going through a checkpoint.. just like
background checks for gun sales doesn't even slow down a criminal who wants
a gun... how many of them do you suppose even buys a gun?


Soon we will have an "internal passport" that you will be required to
show just to go from one end of town to the other, or go from one metro
area to another, or between states. In Russia they're reintroducing the
internal passport system of the Soviet years in order to stop terrorism.
Osama must love the west, one or two big attacks and we're flailing
around destroying ourselves and all we hold dear just for a false sense
of security. Whatever happened to the home of the free? It's now the
home of the scared, people willing to give their freedoms in the hopes
of being protected from the Big Bad Terrorists. The problem is that
there are always holes, even if you have 100% security and a total
police state you can't stop a determined terrorist. All it does is makes
slaves of law abiding people. But people don't seem to care, they'd
rather be in prison camps because the camp represents security.
Unfortunately, the terrorists can cut the fences, while the people
inside can't.


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Old April 9th 05, 05:05 AM
 
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I hope soon,all of them kooks will be required to have tattooed (at the
kooks expense,of course) on their heads,KOOK! and eveywhere them kooks
go,everybody will know they are,KOOK'S!
cuhulin



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Old April 9th 05, 05:10 AM
 
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I want to be in the wimmins prison camp.
cuhulin

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Old April 9th 05, 01:21 PM
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BAD,
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Old April 9th 05, 07:26 PM
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oups.com...
BAD,
.
Your 'personal' Travel got "Restricted" when you Volunteered to get
a State Driver's License (DL) or Personal Identity Card and 'you'
freely "Surrender" the DL (Show It) everytime a Law Enforcement
Officer asks for it as Proof of 'your' Identity within the USA.
.
Or, when you use the DL as a 'form' of Identification for Domestic
Travel within the USA to-board an Airplane, Bus or Train.
.
Also everytime you use your DL as Proof of Identity when you Use a
Credit Card or Write-a-Check at a local store or bank within the USA.

.
WE HAVE YOUR NAME AND NUMBER... AND VERY SOON WE WILL HAVE YOU !
.
step right up folks - we have met the enemy and they are us ~ RHF


So, RHF...can I take it you don't have a driver's license? I have a passing
familiarity with what I believe to be the reasoning behind your argument;
how well does it go over when you fight your traffic tickets in court? Or
does this off topic post (which you didn't identify as such in the Subject
line) have some other more obscure reasoning behind it?


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