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Old May 17th 05, 11:48 PM
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No that's not the real reason I'm mad. You see, it wouldn't have bid up that
high but these collectors from Japan are willing to pay crazy prices for
certain radios. If I saw that the auction was for overseas bidders too, I
would have passed on it right from the start cause I knew what happened
would happen and it did.

But since you lost the auction, it doesn't matter how high you bid, since
you're not paying the price.

It would be different if she doesn't sell to the Japanese bidder, but
expects you to pay the full bid, since at that point the bidding is
inflated, if the Japanese guy was your direct competition.

Michael

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Old May 18th 05, 02:04 AM
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Lucky wrote:

I did bid pretty high too. But yes, of course I'm ****ed I didn't win it but
would have if she kept the auction the way it was represented and followed
her contract. And the next time I see an auction that says US ONLY I will
ask the seller if they will stick to that before I bid.



Good thinking. It's still a sad state of affairs when you have to ask if someone
will stick to the terms they themselves set. Mind you, this situation can work
to your benefit, too. I've told some 'US only' sellers that if they would ship
to Canada, I'd bid on the item. Out of the three times I asked, Two said ok. The
third said the paper work was too much. He was a high volume seller with his
hands full as it was. I could see his point.



mike
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Old May 18th 05, 11:38 AM
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Lucky wrote:

"patgkz" wrote in message
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Would it matter that the bidder is overseas or is it just the fact that
you were out-and-out just plain-old OUTBID?

Place a higher bid next time and you'll have a better chance of getting
the item, no matter who is bidding against you. That's how eBay works.


"Lucky" wrote in message
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Hi guys.

I just wanted your opinions on this matter.
When I bid on items on Ebay, I usually stay away from auctions that "ship
worldwide". The reason for that is I found that many sellers don't ship
overseas. So, when there is an auction for a much wanted item, it usually
bids up very high. The reason being there are so many more bidders from
around the world instead of just the U.S.

OK, I see an item I want to bid on. It says more then 3 times in big
letters, "ships to U.S. ONLY" And yes it said just that. "To US only".
OK I bid on the item. At the very end a new bidder jumps in. He wins the
auction of course since his bid is $10 more then mine.

I then check him out and see he is a bidder from Japan. I figure this guy
didn't follow the rules of the auction or asked permission to do so. I
then write the seller asking her if she knew the winner was from Japan.
She wrote back saying "No, I didn't know that. Thanks for alerting me to
this. Plus, he hasn't even payed me yet".

I tell her listen, he broke the rules. I told her I would pay his winning
bid of $10 more so you would not lose anything and this foreign bidder
can easily be disqualified since he didn't respect the instructions in
the ad. She said she would get back to me.

Well, she never got back to me and now I see she left this guy positive
feedback already. Was this right? I mean I bid on the item since there
was no "ships worldwide" and the seller admitted to me she didn't know he
was a overseas bidder but sold to him anyway.

Do I have any type of recourse on this?
It just doesn't seem right to me.

Thanks for any replies
Lucky




No that's not the real reason I'm mad. You see, it wouldn't have bid up that
high but these collectors from Japan are willing to pay crazy prices for
certain radios. If I saw that the auction was for overseas bidders too, I
would have passed on it right from the start cause I knew what happened
would happen and it did.

I did bid pretty high too. But yes, of course I'm ****ed I didn't win it but
would have if she kept the auction the way it was represented and followed
her contract. And the next time I see an auction that says US ONLY I will
ask the seller if they will stick to that before I bid.


It's always a blast to watch the antics of the mentally ill/retarded.

You lost the auction because you didn't bid high enough 'tard, not because the
seller didn't follow some particular 'contract' as obviously defined by you, the
sorry ass loser.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Old May 18th 05, 11:02 PM
 
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 15:54:43 -0400, "Lucky"
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"patgkz" wrote in message
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Would it matter that the bidder is overseas or is it just the fact that
you were out-and-out just plain-old OUTBID?

Place a higher bid next time and you'll have a better chance of getting
the item, no matter who is bidding against you. That's how eBay works.


"Lucky" wrote in message
...
Hi guys.

I just wanted your opinions on this matter.
When I bid on items on Ebay, I usually stay away from auctions that "ship
worldwide". The reason for that is I found that many sellers don't ship
overseas. So, when there is an auction for a much wanted item, it usually
bids up very high. The reason being there are so many more bidders from
around the world instead of just the U.S.

OK, I see an item I want to bid on. It says more then 3 times in big
letters, "ships to U.S. ONLY" And yes it said just that. "To US only".
OK I bid on the item. At the very end a new bidder jumps in. He wins the
auction of course since his bid is $10 more then mine.

I then check him out and see he is a bidder from Japan. I figure this guy
didn't follow the rules of the auction or asked permission to do so. I
then write the seller asking her if she knew the winner was from Japan.
She wrote back saying "No, I didn't know that. Thanks for alerting me to
this. Plus, he hasn't even payed me yet".

I tell her listen, he broke the rules. I told her I would pay his winning
bid of $10 more so you would not lose anything and this foreign bidder
can easily be disqualified since he didn't respect the instructions in
the ad. She said she would get back to me.

Well, she never got back to me and now I see she left this guy positive
feedback already. Was this right? I mean I bid on the item since there
was no "ships worldwide" and the seller admitted to me she didn't know he
was a overseas bidder but sold to him anyway.

Do I have any type of recourse on this?
It just doesn't seem right to me.

Thanks for any replies
Lucky




No that's not the real reason I'm mad. You see, it wouldn't have bid up that
high but these collectors from Japan are willing to pay crazy prices for
certain radios. If I saw that the auction was for overseas bidders too, I
would have passed on it right from the start cause I knew what happened
would happen and it did.


Get used to it. You aren't really thinking the oil that comes
out of ANWR will be sold only in the US at lower than world prices,
are you? When China holds a fistful of dollars, all that oil that came
from once-public property owned by US taxplayes will be dealt out to
the highest bidder and we'll never see a drop of it. eBay is just the
tiniest reflection of what's going on.



I did bid pretty high too. But yes, of course I'm ****ed I didn't win it but
would have if she kept the auction the way it was represented and followed
her contract. And the next time I see an auction that says US ONLY I will
ask the seller if they will stick to that before I bid.

Thanks for the reply
Lucky


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Old May 17th 05, 07:08 PM
 
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Good "strategery" on ships worldwide. I'll keep that in mind.

Ebay is full of jerks and alpha hotels. I'd say just ignore it and move
on.

I just dealt with some seller who has an item that weighs 4 lbs. The
ebay shipping calculator said $37. That's not going to happen. I got
the guy to agree USPS for 6lbs to cover packing material. He said fine
but wants $5 for the box. Needless to say, the auction was dropped from
my sniper software.



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Old May 17th 05, 08:38 PM
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Lucky wrote:
Hi guys.

I just wanted your opinions on this matter.
When I bid on items on Ebay, I usually stay away from auctions that "ship
worldwide". The reason for that is I found that many sellers don't ship
overseas. So, when there is an auction for a much wanted item, it usually
bids up very high. The reason being there are so many more bidders from
around the world instead of just the U.S.

OK, I see an item I want to bid on. It says more then 3 times in big
letters, "ships to U.S. ONLY" And yes it said just that. "To US only". OK I
bid on the item. At the very end a new bidder jumps in. He wins the auction
of course since his bid is $10 more then mine.

I then check him out and see he is a bidder from Japan. I figure this guy
didn't follow the rules of the auction or asked permission to do so. I then
write the seller asking her if she knew the winner was from Japan. She wrote
back saying "No, I didn't know that. Thanks for alerting me to this. Plus,
he hasn't even payed me yet".

I tell her listen, he broke the rules. I told her I would pay his winning
bid of $10 more so you would not lose anything and this foreign bidder can
easily be disqualified since he didn't respect the instructions in the ad.
She said she would get back to me.

Well, she never got back to me and now I see she left this guy positive
feedback already. Was this right? I mean I bid on the item since there was
no "ships worldwide" and the seller admitted to me she didn't know he was a
overseas bidder but sold to him anyway.

Do I have any type of recourse on this?
It just doesn't seem right to me.

Thanks for any replies
Lucky



It's her item, she can do what see darn well pleases with it. She is
under no obligation to you what-so-ever since you did not have the
highest bid. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
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Old May 19th 05, 06:14 AM
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"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
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Lucky wrote:
Hi guys.

I just wanted your opinions on this matter.
When I bid on items on Ebay, I usually stay away from auctions that "ship
worldwide". The reason for that is I found that many sellers don't ship
overseas. So, when there is an auction for a much wanted item, it usually
bids up very high. The reason being there are so many more bidders from
around the world instead of just the U.S.

OK, I see an item I want to bid on. It says more then 3 times in big
letters, "ships to U.S. ONLY" And yes it said just that. "To US only".
OK I bid on the item. At the very end a new bidder jumps in. He wins the
auction of course since his bid is $10 more then mine.

I then check him out and see he is a bidder from Japan. I figure this guy
didn't follow the rules of the auction or asked permission to do so. I
then write the seller asking her if she knew the winner was from Japan.
She wrote back saying "No, I didn't know that. Thanks for alerting me to
this. Plus, he hasn't even payed me yet".

I tell her listen, he broke the rules. I told her I would pay his winning
bid of $10 more so you would not lose anything and this foreign bidder
can easily be disqualified since he didn't respect the instructions in
the ad. She said she would get back to me.

Well, she never got back to me and now I see she left this guy positive
feedback already. Was this right? I mean I bid on the item since there
was no "ships worldwide" and the seller admitted to me she didn't know he
was a overseas bidder but sold to him anyway.

Do I have any type of recourse on this?
It just doesn't seem right to me.

Thanks for any replies
Lucky


It's her item, she can do what see darn well pleases with it. She is under
no obligation to you what-so-ever since you did not have the highest bid.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.


Yes it is sour grapes with a twist....

Lucky


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Old May 17th 05, 10:51 PM
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"Lucky" wrote in message
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Hi guys.

I just wanted your opinions on this matter.
When I bid on items on Ebay, I usually stay away from auctions that "ship
worldwide". The reason for that is I found that many sellers don't ship
overseas. So, when there is an auction for a much wanted item, it usually
bids up very high. The reason being there are so many more bidders from
around the world instead of just the U.S.

OK, I see an item I want to bid on. It says more then 3 times in big
letters, "ships to U.S. ONLY" And yes it said just that. "To US only". OK

I
bid on the item. At the very end a new bidder jumps in. He wins the

auction
of course since his bid is $10 more then mine.

I then check him out and see he is a bidder from Japan. I figure this guy
didn't follow the rules of the auction or asked permission to do so. I

then
write the seller asking her if she knew the winner was from Japan. She

wrote
back saying "No, I didn't know that. Thanks for alerting me to this. Plus,
he hasn't even payed me yet".

I tell her listen, he broke the rules. I told her I would pay his winning
bid of $10 more so you would not lose anything and this foreign bidder can
easily be disqualified since he didn't respect the instructions in the ad.
She said she would get back to me.

Well, she never got back to me and now I see she left this guy positive
feedback already. Was this right? I mean I bid on the item since there was
no "ships worldwide" and the seller admitted to me she didn't know he was

a
overseas bidder but sold to him anyway.

Do I have any type of recourse on this?
It just doesn't seem right to me.

Thanks for any replies
Lucky



There are also buyers like me.. I live in Korea, but my address is a US
address (military). I rarely have problems, but occasionally I'll run into
someone that won't ship to me because they only use UPS or FedEx. I can
maybe understand someone not wanting to take the time and effort to go to
the post office if it's a ways away and the item is only a few dollars
worth.. but if it's something that sells for say, $300 or more, then it's
kinda foolhardy to decide you don't want to sell to someone if you can't get
it picked up at your home.



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Old May 18th 05, 12:05 AM
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Life sucks, you have kids and it sucks more, you deal with Ebay and is sucks
big time!

"Lucky" wrote in message
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Hi guys.

I just wanted your opinions on this matter.
When I bid on items on Ebay, I usually stay away from auctions that "ship
worldwide". The reason for that is I found that many sellers don't ship
overseas. So, when there is an auction for a much wanted item, it usually
bids up very high. The reason being there are so many more bidders from
around the world instead of just the U.S.

OK, I see an item I want to bid on. It says more then 3 times in big
letters, "ships to U.S. ONLY" And yes it said just that. "To US only". OK

I
bid on the item. At the very end a new bidder jumps in. He wins the

auction
of course since his bid is $10 more then mine.

I then check him out and see he is a bidder from Japan. I figure this guy
didn't follow the rules of the auction or asked permission to do so. I

then
write the seller asking her if she knew the winner was from Japan. She

wrote
back saying "No, I didn't know that. Thanks for alerting me to this. Plus,
he hasn't even payed me yet".

I tell her listen, he broke the rules. I told her I would pay his winning
bid of $10 more so you would not lose anything and this foreign bidder can
easily be disqualified since he didn't respect the instructions in the ad.
She said she would get back to me.

Well, she never got back to me and now I see she left this guy positive
feedback already. Was this right? I mean I bid on the item since there was
no "ships worldwide" and the seller admitted to me she didn't know he was

a
overseas bidder but sold to him anyway.

Do I have any type of recourse on this?
It just doesn't seem right to me.

Thanks for any replies
Lucky




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Old May 18th 05, 04:53 AM
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Yep, buying on eBay is not for the faint of heart. There is no guarantee
that the players will stick by Queensbury rules. Get over it and move on
to the next auction.
"Lucky" wrote in message
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Hi guys.

I just wanted your opinions on this matter.
When I bid on items on Ebay, I usually stay away from auctions that "ship
worldwide". The reason for that is I found that many sellers don't ship
overseas. So, when there is an auction for a much wanted item, it usually
bids up very high. The reason being there are so many more bidders from
around the world instead of just the U.S.

OK, I see an item I want to bid on. It says more then 3 times in big
letters, "ships to U.S. ONLY" And yes it said just that. "To US only". OK
I bid on the item. At the very end a new bidder jumps in. He wins the
auction of course since his bid is $10 more then mine.

I then check him out and see he is a bidder from Japan. I figure this guy
didn't follow the rules of the auction or asked permission to do so. I
then write the seller asking her if she knew the winner was from Japan.
She wrote back saying "No, I didn't know that. Thanks for alerting me to
this. Plus, he hasn't even payed me yet".

I tell her listen, he broke the rules. I told her I would pay his winning
bid of $10 more so you would not lose anything and this foreign bidder can
easily be disqualified since he didn't respect the instructions in the ad.
She said she would get back to me.

Well, she never got back to me and now I see she left this guy positive
feedback already. Was this right? I mean I bid on the item since there was
no "ships worldwide" and the seller admitted to me she didn't know he was
a overseas bidder but sold to him anyway.

Do I have any type of recourse on this?
It just doesn't seem right to me.

Thanks for any replies
Lucky





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