We'd better all hope that shortwave continues and has a future for the sake
of getting REAL news. So-called "streaming audio" is a joke, there is
nothing "streaming" about it except the malarky coming from the mouths of
its proponents.

Satellite as well as Internet information and, yes, news, is too easy to
censor or block entirely.

God help us if we have to rely on the pathetic US broadcasters (all 3 of
them which own most media now) or satellite/Internet "technology" .In the
so-called "Cold War" days I remember hearing how the communists would go up
and down the streets with radios tuned to IF frequencies and detect what
people were listening to. If you were tuned to RFE or some banned station,
you were in trouble. Good grief...does anyone believe that Internet/digital
mediums are not being monitored or soon will be?

Smokey
Fed up with the BS


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On 7 Jun 2005 02:47:59 GMT, "PM" wrote:

L am as an avid shortwave listener for more than 50 years unfortunately I am
sseing demise of shortwave broadcasts, such as BBC and VOA.

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Believe me, the VoA is still here...although it's not cheap for us in
the CNMI! The CUC (Commonwealth Utilities Corp.) gouges the US
Government on our electricity because it can't get it's own government
(CNMI) to pay its power bills. Every time they go to shut off a CNMI
govt office, the CNMI govt gets it's buddies in the CNMI judiciary to
issue an injunction prohibiting it! Front Page news has it that the
CNMI govt will be completely broke by election day this year...

But I digress. The VoA is still here...we just concentrate on new
targets and have expended services to those new targets at the expense
of old services like English and most european languages. However,
the general feeling at the IBB water cooler is that we'll all be
pahsed out within 10-15 years. :-(

Al in CNMI

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Remember the CB craze of the 1970s? It became insanely popular for a while
with a very wide audience, but then the sunspot cycle created horrible
conditions, and the faddists went somewhere else. The CB survived, though,
and even in these days of GPS and satellite and internet, there's still
nothing better for truckers and other interstate drivers than the old
familiar CB. I listen to channel 19 all the time, and it's just as busy as
ever before. CB is not about to go anywhere.

Neither is shortwave. I think shortwave is in a decline, but I think it will
survive and even flourish over the next few decades. I don't know who will
be on the SW band in 10 years, but I'm sure someone will be smart enough to
realize what a powerful medium radio can be.

lsmyer wrote:

Remember the CB craze of the 1970s? It became insanely popular for a while
with a very wide audience, but then the sunspot cycle created horrible
conditions, and the faddists went somewhere else. The CB survived, though,
and even in these days of GPS and satellite and internet, there's still
nothing better for truckers and other interstate drivers than the old
familiar CB. I listen to channel 19 all the time, and it's just as busy as
ever before. CB is not about to go anywhere.

Neither is shortwave. I think shortwave is in a decline, but I think it will
survive and even flourish over the next few decades. I don't know who will
be on the SW band in 10 years, but I'm sure someone will be smart enough to
realize what a powerful medium radio can be.

The idiots at BBC and DW and VOA may deepsix their SW operations, but in
places like Africa SW is STILL the best way to reach rural audiences,
most of whom live on $1 a day yet who have SW radios. Also, SW is the
best way to get around media censorship. Look at Zimbabwe, where the
opposition has taken to SW in order to get anti Mugabe messages to the
public. In places where local media is heavily censored, SW can get the
opposition's message out to a wide audience. There is a lot of
clandestine SW to China, not only RFA but private operations like Sound
of Hope. And of course there will always be the preachers, who don't
have the money or local market share necessary for local media but who
can turn a profit on SW. The new Radio Wantok from Papua New Guinea that
has been discussed here mostly broadcasts tapes of American right wing
commentators, from reports I've read, but the locals still consider it a
community station.


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Tebojockey wrote:

On 7 Jun 2005 02:47:59 GMT, "PM" wrote:

L am as an avid shortwave listener for more than 50 years unfortunately I am
sseing demise of shortwave broadcasts, such as BBC and VOA.

"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
I am interested in the latest views on this topic.

What do you think - has shortwave got a future?

Views/links to articles would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

Mike






Believe me, the VoA is still here...although it's not cheap for us in
the CNMI! The CUC (Commonwealth Utilities Corp.) gouges the US
Government on our electricity because it can't get it's own government
(CNMI) to pay its power bills. Every time they go to shut off a CNMI
govt office, the CNMI govt gets it's buddies in the CNMI judiciary to
issue an injunction prohibiting it! Front Page news has it that the
CNMI govt will be completely broke by election day this year...

But I digress. The VoA is still here...we just concentrate on new
targets and have expended services to those new targets at the expense
of old services like English and most european languages. However,
the general feeling at the IBB water cooler is that we'll all be
pahsed out within 10-15 years. :-(

Al in CNMI

There's always Sawa and Farda, both IBB operations, although Sawa is
only on FM. And then there's the Studio 7 service to Zimbabwe. But most
VOA services have been cut deeply, and they'll probably cut the rest
soon. DW has already cut all its Americas services, and BBC is heading
in that direction.


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On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:47:02 -0700, running dogg wrote:

Tebojockey wrote:

On 7 Jun 2005 02:47:59 GMT, "PM" wrote:

L am as an avid shortwave listener for more than 50 years unfortunately I am
sseing demise of shortwave broadcasts, such as BBC and VOA.

"Mike Terry" wrote in message
...
I am interested in the latest views on this topic.

What do you think - has shortwave got a future?

Views/links to articles would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

Mike






Believe me, the VoA is still here...although it's not cheap for us in
the CNMI! The CUC (Commonwealth Utilities Corp.) gouges the US
Government on our electricity because it can't get it's own government
(CNMI) to pay its power bills. Every time they go to shut off a CNMI
govt office, the CNMI govt gets it's buddies in the CNMI judiciary to
issue an injunction prohibiting it! Front Page news has it that the
CNMI govt will be completely broke by election day this year...

But I digress. The VoA is still here...we just concentrate on new
targets and have expended services to those new targets at the expense
of old services like English and most european languages. However,
the general feeling at the IBB water cooler is that we'll all be
pahsed out within 10-15 years. :-(

Al in CNMI

There's always Sawa and Farda, both IBB operations, although Sawa is
only on FM. And then there's the Studio 7 service to Zimbabwe. But most
VOA services have been cut deeply, and they'll probably cut the rest
soon. DW has already cut all its Americas services, and BBC is heading
in that direction.


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VoA will definitely not disappear anytime soon. There are too many
minority languages it supports. VoA, Sawa, Farda and all the other
stations run by us here at IBB will continue as long as they are
politically necessary and convenient. After all, it is nothing more
than a propaganda war we're fighting on the airwaves. I've got this
contract for at least five more years, and the IBB has been mandated
by Congress to outsource (contract operation) 35% more of its
stations, so there is a future, but an indeterminate one!

Al in CNMI

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