"Honus" wrote in message
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"Saraclese Manboobs" wrote in message
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"According to myth gypsies crafted five nails for Christ's
execution not four. The fifth nail was meant to pierce his
heart, but the gypsies hid the fifth nail from the roman soldiers.
In some stories the gypsies were punished by God for
prolonging Christ's suffering, and in others they were
rewarded for attempting to protect him. The fifth nail is
said to have been a real religious artifact with miraculous
powers. Its existence today is somewhat
questionable, unless you consider the metaphor."

- old story related to me while doing postgraduate
work at UC Davis

Which you appear to have copied -word for word- from
http://fifthnail.blogspot.com

I actually pulled it off a newsblog from CA which deals
in clinical psychology, however I did recall attending a
lecture at UC Davis in which the above was discussed.

If you feel (or speculate) that my posting of the same
was somehow meant to coddle or condone the actions
of Mr Duncan and people like him, then you are at
best sadly mistaken and at worst somewhat delusional
and perhaps unable to apply constructive and intellectual
postgraduate level debate or discourse.

which for anyone who doesn't know is the URL for the blog kept by the
murderous pedophile Joe Duncan.
He's the guy who's accused of murdering that family in Idaho and keeping
8-year-old Shasta Groene captive
for (IIRC) seven weeks until they were spotted in a Denny's.

For your review:

"...and by a Gypsy smith (ironworker / forger) they passed, a smith
who nails was making. 'Thou dog, thou Gypsy dog' - said she,
'What is it thou art making? ''They're going to crucify a man
and I the nails am making.'"

6. Kenrick & Puxon. The Destiny of Europe's Gypsies.
Basic Books, Inc. New York, 1972; pg. 151.

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The Nail
One of the nails that pierced Christ on the Cross.
This appears to be an iron nail without rust but with bloodstains.
Anyone holding the nail is incapable of lying and must
tell the truth. The Grail Guardians sometimes use this to test visitors.

The Grail Guardians do not know where the other 3 nails
are but do know the story of the fifth nail. (A gypsy was
asked by the Jews in the Temple to forge five nails
for a crucifixion, one for each wrist and ankle
and one for the heart, but the gypsy swallowed the
fifth nail so that Christ would not be killed on the
Cross but would be killed by the Spear. For this
the gypsies were cursed to wander the world.)

Part of Simon Phipp's RuneQuest/Glorantha Site
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/1481/ae10.html

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According to the Rev. Larry Merino, who evangelizes among
Gypsy communities in Indiana, the following communal myth
exists: "..at the Crucifixion site, a Gypsy stole a nail that was
intended to pierce the head of Jesus. The theft saved Christ
from even more agony and as a reward the gypsy people
were given a divine pass on the 8th Commandment."

(This nonsense is widely believed or at least - employed as
rationalisation.)

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