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beerbarrel wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:21:35 -0400, dxAce wrote: The written test probably does as well. Should that also be dropped. If one can't learn even a minimum 5 WPM then they have no business in amateur radio. 5 WPM is incredibly easy, heck, even the 'tards should be able to master that. dxAce Michigan USA CW is not going to go away just because they drop the requirement. Like Steve says, It's not that hard. Most anyone can learn 5 wpm in as little as a month or less. I think that something worth having is worth earning. As I recall it took me about a month or so back in '69 to learn 5 WPM. Got my first ticket back in 1970. dxAce Michigan USA |
John S. wrote:
Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use of a buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving test. If they are going to drive a buggy, it might be a good idea. |
"beerbarrel" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:21:35 -0400, dxAce wrote: The written test probably does as well. Should that also be dropped. If one can't learn even a minimum 5 WPM then they have no business in amateur radio. 5 WPM is incredibly easy, heck, even the 'tards should be able to master that. dxAce Michigan USA CW is not going to go away just because they drop the requirement. Like Steve says, It's not that hard. Most anyone can learn 5 wpm in as little as a month or less. I think that something worth having is worth earning. I say give techs a piece of HF and if they like HF, they can take the test to get access to the rest of it. I'm half-heartedly studying for the tech test and only really have interest in 2m right now. |
I couldn't agree more with dropping CW from the ham test.
It reminds me of the legal profession here in South Africa. It used to be a requirement that lawyers had to pass Latin in high school and have at least two courses in Latin for their law degree. That was scrapped about ten years ago amid loud protests from the dinosaurs. Today the law profession is flourishing more than ever before with high quality judges and advocates. The only thing I have noticed is that the high and mighty no longer spew out Latin quotations = R.I.P. Our SARL (South African Radio League) ham club is diminishing by the year and the once crowded ham bands are now empty. We need to make it easier for new entrants to come into this wonderful hobby. -- John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods Drake SW8 & ERGO software Sony 7600D GE SRIII BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A. Hallicrafters SX-100, Eddystone 940 GE circa 50's radiogram Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx "John Smith" wrote in message ... MnMikew: Interesting theory. We could propose a test to see if what you say is true. Say, require a person to do 5 WPM before they can use usenet, IRC or IM clients? ROFLOL! Perhaps we would find it is actually a "good thing." Next we could require a person be able to rollerskate 5 miles over rough pavement before we allow them a drivers license? I mean, what if traffic is too heavy or their car breaks down--it will be useful! grin John |
John Smith wrote: MnMikew: Interesting theory. We could propose a test to see if what you say is true. Say, require a person to do 5 WPM before they can use usenet, IRC or IM clients? ROFLOL! Perhaps we would find it is actually a "good thing." Next we could require a person be able to rollerskate 5 miles over rough pavement before we allow them a drivers license? I mean, what if traffic is too heavy or their car breaks down--it will be useful! grin John Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use of a buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving test. |
"John S." wrote: John Smith wrote: MnMikew: Interesting theory. We could propose a test to see if what you say is true. Say, require a person to do 5 WPM before they can use usenet, IRC or IM clients? ROFLOL! Perhaps we would find it is actually a "good thing." Next we could require a person be able to rollerskate 5 miles over rough pavement before we allow them a drivers license? I mean, what if traffic is too heavy or their car breaks down--it will be useful! grin John Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use of a buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving test. Typical old and tired 'tard boy comment! Keep trying! dxAce Michigan USA Code proficient! |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:41:48 UTC, beerbarrel
wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:31:02 -0400, dxAce wrote: Joel Rubin wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:33:36 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc John Code ability should be one alternative among other technical tests. It seems very odd to freeze a technical test in a museum of bygone technology. If one cannot learn at least a minimal 5 WPM code then they have absolutely no business obtaining an amateur license. dxAce Michigan USA Agreed! Then you should also learn how to ride a horse in order to deliver the mail on time. -- "What do you mean there's no movie?" |
Yeah. The logic escaped a lot of people the first time. We keep
hoping that in the repeating some common sense will sink into the conceptually challenged minds out there. Hasn't happened yet... John "dxAce" wrote in message ... "John S." wrote: John Smith wrote: MnMikew: Interesting theory. We could propose a test to see if what you say is true. Say, require a person to do 5 WPM before they can use usenet, IRC or IM clients? ROFLOL! Perhaps we would find it is actually a "good thing." Next we could require a person be able to rollerskate 5 miles over rough pavement before we allow them a drivers license? I mean, what if traffic is too heavy or their car breaks down--it will be useful! grin John Yes, or require that prospective drivers be proficient in the use of a buggy whip in addition to passing a written and practical driving test. Typical old and tired 'tard boy comment! Keep trying! dxAce Michigan USA Code proficient! |
Count Floyd wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:41:48 UTC, beerbarrel wrote: On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:31:02 -0400, dxAce wrote: Joel Rubin wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:33:36 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc John Code ability should be one alternative among other technical tests. It seems very odd to freeze a technical test in a museum of bygone technology. If one cannot learn at least a minimal 5 WPM code then they have absolutely no business obtaining an amateur license. dxAce Michigan USA Agreed! Then you should also learn how to ride a horse in order to deliver the mail on time. Yet again another old and worn out 'tard boy comment! Keep trying! dxAce Michigan USA |
John Plimmer wrote: I couldn't agree more with dropping CW from the ham test. It reminds me of the legal profession here in South Africa. It used to be a requirement that lawyers had to pass Latin in high school and have at least two courses in Latin for their law degree. That was scrapped about ten years ago amid loud protests from the dinosaurs. Today the law profession is flourishing more than ever before with high quality judges and advocates. The only thing I have noticed is that the high and mighty no longer spew out Latin quotations = R.I.P. Our SARL (South African Radio League) ham club is diminishing by the year and the once crowded ham bands are now empty. We need to make it easier for new entrants to come into this wonderful hobby. Why does everything need to be made easier? Can't the 'tards learn the code? If so, WHY can't the 'tards learn the code? If ordinary folks could pass the test in years past what is so different today? Laziness? dxAce Michigan USA |
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