On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:43:23 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I don't see why I should even bother answering an article that starts
with a quote of Karl Marx! Anything this man has every said has been
discredited in practice, and millions of people suffered in the
process. Anyone who still seriously believes in the dead horse of
Marxism has no brain left.

Let me remind you that I started this thread with Churchill's comments
about Islam. You then retorted with a derisive statement of "crazy
white men", presumably in defence of Islam.

You go to war to secure the instrument of your demise (petroleum).
That's pretty wack.

Now you turned to dying
trees and environmentalism. Just another convenient way to badmouth
those "crazy white men" who brought us the very civilization that
feeds you and that you just love to despise, right?

You call this a hot-dog?

You should really look into the mirror and admit to yourself frankly
why you hate civilization so much. You feel left a bit behind, don't
you? Some deep-seated inferioity complex perhaps?

More of a love/hate relationship with ''civilization'' as you call it.

Ah, about those dying trees, all you romantic tree huggers should read
this: http://www.lomborg.com/books.htm
(But I don't really expect you to believe it - of course, it was
written by a white guy.)

Peter Newman



''The Future
The deforestation of tropical rain forests is a threat to life
worldwide. Deforestation may have profound effects on global climate
and cause the extinction of thousands of species annually.''

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Lib...station_4.html

Written by our best scientific minds.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:22:21 GMT, David wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:43:23 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I don't see why I should even bother answering an article that starts
with a quote of Karl Marx! Anything this man has every said has been
discredited in practice, and millions of people suffered in the
process. Anyone who still seriously believes in the dead horse of
Marxism has no brain left.


#1:

Let me remind you that I started this thread with Churchill's comments
about Islam. You then retorted with a derisive statement of "crazy
white men", presumably in defence of Islam.

You go to war to secure the instrument of your demise (petroleum).
That's pretty wack.

Go back to point #1 above. What you replied makes no sense whatsover
in the context of this discussion: I did not go to any war for
petroleum, and petroleum is certainly not an instrument of my demise.
If you meant to say that the US (or all "crazy white men"?), then
exactly the same applies.

Let me also suggest that you stop driving a car, don't use any public
transport, immediately switch off any electrical appliances in your
home, including your computer.

I wonder where you live. I bet you live somewhere where you don't have
to work too hard, thanks to the very civilization that you hate so
much. You know what? You are simply bored. Move somewhere where you
will need to work really hard in order to be able to eat and have a
decent roof above your head. Then you will see things from a different
perspective and take fewer things for granted.

#2:

Now you turned to dying
trees and environmentalism. Just another convenient way to badmouth
those "crazy white men" who brought us the very civilization that
feeds you and that you just love to despise, right?

You call this a hot-dog?

You don't make sense. Go back to #2 above and then switch on your
brain.

You should really look into the mirror and admit to yourself frankly
why you hate civilization so much. You feel left a bit behind, don't
you? Some deep-seated inferioity complex perhaps?

More of a love/hate relationship with ''civilization'' as you call it.

Time to make an appointment with a psychiatrist as soon as possible.

Ah, about those dying trees, all you romantic tree huggers should read
this: http://www.lomborg.com/books.htm
(But I don't really expect you to believe it - of course, it was
written by a white guy.)

''The Future
The deforestation of tropical rain forests is a threat to life
worldwide. Deforestation may have profound effects on global climate
and cause the extinction of thousands of species annually.''

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Lib...station_4.html

Written by our best scientific minds.

Says someone who really desperately *wants* to believe this
politically correct crap. You are simply seeking justification for
your anger and hatred, whose real reason is your very own inferiority
complex - just be a man and admit it to yourself.

Buy the Lomborg book and get the *real* story, from a *real*
scientist. I promise this will be an eye opener for you. But I guess
you don't really want to open your eyes, do you. You like it better
this way - the more alarmist, the more apocalyptic, the more proving
of your "crazy white men" crap, then the better it feels, because you
just like to wallow in that negativity, like a pig in ****, don't you!

I started this thread talking about Muslims. But you are talking about
deforestation. I guess you don't realize that by desperately searching
for any suitable negative subject to justify your initial "crazy white
men" outburst, you are precisely confirming what I am saying - you are
entirely messed up. I hope it is not too late for you. You *can* fix
your brain up, but first you do need to be honest to yourself.


Peter Newman

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:42:19 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I started this thread talking about Muslims. But you are talking about
deforestation. I guess you don't realize that by desperately searching
for any suitable negative subject to justify your initial "crazy white
men" outburst, you are precisely confirming what I am saying - you are
entirely messed up. I hope it is not too late for you. You *can* fix
your brain up, but first you do need to be honest to yourself.

I say crazy white people are the reason the Muslims are ****ed. Who
gives the English the right to steal the Arab's oil?

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:56:32 GMT, David wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:42:19 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I started this thread talking about Muslims. But you are talking about
deforestation. I guess you don't realize that by desperately searching
for any suitable negative subject to justify your initial "crazy white
men" outburst, you are precisely confirming what I am saying - you are
entirely messed up. I hope it is not too late for you. You *can* fix
your brain up, but first you do need to be honest to yourself.

I say crazy white people are the reason the Muslims are ****ed.

The Muslims are not ****ed because of "crazy white people". They are
****ed with any of their neighbours regardless of colour, Indonesia,
Phillippines, Thailand, Sudan, etc. And Sunnis are ****ed with
Shiites. Islam's borders are bloody everywhere. Muslims are ****ed
precisely because their religion is making them so. But of course, you
like to blame the "crazy white man" for everything don't you. Makes
you feel oh so-o-o good!

Who gives the English the right to steal the Arab's oil?

What are you talking about? Are the English stealing the Arab's oil?
Where exactly? What a load of rubbish. As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.

Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

He said the Kyoto Protocol would cost billions, even trillions, of
dollars and would have a devastating effect on the economies of
countries that signed it. "It will deliver no significant cooling -
less than 0.02 degrees Celsius by 2050," he said.

"The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been
the main scaremonger for the global warming lobby . . . Fatally, the
IPCC is a political, not a scientific body."

To understand climate change, it was necessary to look at the longer
record, he said.

Through an examination of material taken from deep below the ocean
floor, marine geologists could study layers of earth's history similar
to the way a tree's age could be determined by tree rings.

"We are in a relatively warm period today," he said. "But 20,000 years
ago, it was as cold as it has ever been - that was the peak of the
last glaciation."

Professor Carter said that over 2.5 million years there had been 50
glacial and interglacial periods. Of the past 400,000 years, the earth
had been colder for 90 per cent of the time, with briefer warmer
periods of about 10,000 years.

He said the earth was now at the end of a warmer period, and reputable
climate-change scientists agreed that the climate was going to get
colder. The debate was whether it would take tens, hundreds or even
thousands of years to occur.

On a shorter time scale, Professor Carter said the earth had broadly
got warmer in the modern period, from 1860 to 2000, although it had
also been warmer in Roman and medieval times. There had also been a
Little Ice Age between 1550 and the 19th century, when the Thames used
to freeze over.

A cooling trend took place between 1940 and 1970, when temperatures
began to rise again, reaching a peak in 1998. "This coincided with the
biggest El Nino in the 20th century," he said.

However, research by the climate research unit at East Anglia
University in Britain had shown that the average global temperature
had declined since 1998.

Professor Carter said greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide were not
causing the earth to warm up. On both annual and geological (up to
100,000-year) time scales, changes in temperature preceded changes in
carbon dioxide, he said. This was true even in the famous 1960-1991
graph showing rising amounts of carbon dioxide.

Professor Carter said that without the natural greenhouse effect, the
average earth temperature would be minus 18 degrees Celsius, compared
with the average of plus 15 Celsius that had nurtured the development
of life and civilisation.

Water vapour made up about 95 per cent of the greenhouse effect.

Carbon dioxide was a minor greenhouse gas, responsible for 3.6 per
cent of the total greenhouse effect, he said. Of this, only 0.12 per
cent, or 0.036 degrees Celsius, could be attributed to human activity.

Climate had always changed and "always will", he said. "The only
sensible thing to do about climate change is to prepare for it."

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:15:27 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:

As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.

WRONG! We prop up dictators who do not share the bounty with the
people.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?
\
That probably would have worked-out better

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.

Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

Nationalist Socialist Fascist Corporatist Rich ****s Rule

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

http://planetforlife.com/gwarm/glob1000.html

Blame it on the moo cows, then.

You're going down, Whitey.

David wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:15:27 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:

As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.

WRONG! We prop up dictators who do not share the bounty with the
people.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?
\
That probably would have worked-out better

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.

Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

Nationalist Socialist Fascist Corporatist Rich ****s Rule

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

http://planetforlife.com/gwarm/glob1000.html

Blame it on the moo cows, then.

You're going down, Whitey.

So please tell us, what colour are you?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

DX Ace - Why DaviD is a RainBow of Colours
In 'his' Own Mind that Is . . . ~ RHF
. . . . .

David wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:15:27 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:

As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.

WRONG! We prop up dictators who do not share the bounty with the
people.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?
\
That probably would have worked-out better

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.

Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

Nationalist Socialist Fascist Corporatist Rich ****s Rule

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

http://planetforlife.com/gwarm/glob1000.html

Blame it on the moo cows, then.

You're going down, Whitey.

Guess I'll just ask again... What colour are you? Are you a 'darkie'? If so,
what brand?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

It is obvious, the middle east countries have the largest WMD which has ever
existed, it is also a "natural" one--oil.

They can simply bring us to our knees by refusing to sell it to us, or
demanding a thousand dollars a barrel.

It is self-evident!

John

"Peter Newman" wrote in message
news:42e7afbe.5425046@news-server...
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:56:32 GMT, David wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:42:19 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I started this thread talking about Muslims. But you are talking about
deforestation. I guess you don't realize that by desperately searching
for any suitable negative subject to justify your initial "crazy white
men" outburst, you are precisely confirming what I am saying - you are
entirely messed up. I hope it is not too late for you. You *can* fix
your brain up, but first you do need to be honest to yourself.

I say crazy white people are the reason the Muslims are ****ed.

The Muslims are not ****ed because of "crazy white people". They are
****ed with any of their neighbours regardless of colour, Indonesia,
Phillippines, Thailand, Sudan, etc. And Sunnis are ****ed with
Shiites. Islam's borders are bloody everywhere. Muslims are ****ed
precisely because their religion is making them so. But of course, you
like to blame the "crazy white man" for everything don't you. Makes
you feel oh so-o-o good!

Who gives the English the right to steal the Arab's oil?

What are you talking about? Are the English stealing the Arab's oil?
Where exactly? What a load of rubbish. As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.

Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

He said the Kyoto Protocol would cost billions, even trillions, of
dollars and would have a devastating effect on the economies of
countries that signed it. "It will deliver no significant cooling -
less than 0.02 degrees Celsius by 2050," he said.

"The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been
the main scaremonger for the global warming lobby . . . Fatally, the
IPCC is a political, not a scientific body."

To understand climate change, it was necessary to look at the longer
record, he said.

Through an examination of material taken from deep below the ocean
floor, marine geologists could study layers of earth's history similar
to the way a tree's age could be determined by tree rings.

"We are in a relatively warm period today," he said. "But 20,000 years
ago, it was as cold as it has ever been - that was the peak of the
last glaciation."

Professor Carter said that over 2.5 million years there had been 50
glacial and interglacial periods. Of the past 400,000 years, the earth
had been colder for 90 per cent of the time, with briefer warmer
periods of about 10,000 years.

He said the earth was now at the end of a warmer period, and reputable
climate-change scientists agreed that the climate was going to get
colder. The debate was whether it would take tens, hundreds or even
thousands of years to occur.

On a shorter time scale, Professor Carter said the earth had broadly
got warmer in the modern period, from 1860 to 2000, although it had
also been warmer in Roman and medieval times. There had also been a
Little Ice Age between 1550 and the 19th century, when the Thames used
to freeze over.

A cooling trend took place between 1940 and 1970, when temperatures
began to rise again, reaching a peak in 1998. "This coincided with the
biggest El Nino in the 20th century," he said.

However, research by the climate research unit at East Anglia
University in Britain had shown that the average global temperature
had declined since 1998.

Professor Carter said greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide were not
causing the earth to warm up. On both annual and geological (up to
100,000-year) time scales, changes in temperature preceded changes in
carbon dioxide, he said. This was true even in the famous 1960-1991
graph showing rising amounts of carbon dioxide.

Professor Carter said that without the natural greenhouse effect, the
average earth temperature would be minus 18 degrees Celsius, compared
with the average of plus 15 Celsius that had nurtured the development
of life and civilisation.

Water vapour made up about 95 per cent of the greenhouse effect.

Carbon dioxide was a minor greenhouse gas, responsible for 3.6 per
cent of the total greenhouse effect, he said. Of this, only 0.12 per
cent, or 0.036 degrees Celsius, could be attributed to human activity.

Climate had always changed and "always will", he said. "The only
sensible thing to do about climate change is to prepare for it."

It is the "crazy white men" (I am not racist,there are a lot of other
people of color whom are very smart too) who maintain and keep those oil
wells going.The ragheads (not confusing India with ragheads,they are
smart too) can't keep those oil wells going by themselves.I noticed oil
is about $60.00 per barrel nowdays.If we are stealing their oil,why is
it I paid $31.00 and pocket change yesterday afternoon to fill my car's
tank up with gasoline to the tune of $2.07.9 at the MurphyUSA gas
station? Gasoline should be dirt cheap if we are stealing their oil.I am
heading on over to the Goodwill store now to see what kind of junk I
don't need,(and flirt with the women over there too) might as well burn
a little of that oil I bought yesterday.That married Irish woman wayyyy
over yonder across the big pond tells me,Larry,you don't need any more
junk!
cuhulin