"OldGold" wrote in message
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Winner takes ALL.


You've seperated the loop antenna and dynamic expander from the radio and
are auctioning these parts seperately.

Just what do you mean with "Winner takes ALL"?

Frank Dresser

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"OldGold" wrote in message
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Winner takes ALL.


You've seperated the loop antenna and dynamic expander from the radio and
are auctioning these parts seperately.

Just what do you mean with "Winner takes ALL"?

Frank Dresser



Why do people do that crap? You'll never find those parts to put it together
and most wont bid on three auctions just to try for fear you may loose one
and end up with a incomplete unit.


--
73 and good DX. B.H.
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm

Brian Hill wrote:
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"OldGold" wrote in message
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[snip}


Winner takes ALL.


You've seperated the loop antenna and dynamic expander from the radio and
are auctioning these parts seperately.

Just what do you mean with "Winner takes ALL"?

Frank Dresser



Why do people do that crap? You'll never find those parts to put it together
and most wont bid on three auctions just to try for fear you may loose one
and end up with a incomplete unit.

Basically parting out an antique radio to maximize his return. I've
seen real auctioneers do the same thing with sets of antique furniture.
Slimy profiteering or a free market at work? Maybe a bit of both.

John S. wrote:
Brian Hill wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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You've seperated the loop antenna and dynamic expander from the radio and
are auctioning these parts seperately.

Just what do you mean with "Winner takes ALL"?

Frank Dresser



Why do people do that crap? You'll never find those parts to put it together
and most wont bid on three auctions just to try for fear you may loose one
and end up with a incomplete unit.


Basically parting out an antique radio to maximize his return. I've
seen real auctioneers do the same thing with sets of antique furniture.
Slimy profiteering or a free market at work? Maybe a bit of both.


Presumably whoever wins the radio will need to send big snipes after the
other items - if they know the radio they're buying has been scavenged.

I've auction houses auction individual parts of a very valuable set,
then auction everything as a set - and if the set sells for more than
the total of the individual parts, it stays together.

But what he's doing with this radio is more like taking a table apart
and selling the top and legs individually.

It may even be a step beyond what Radio-Mart does with stripping options
out of radios he buys for resale.

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
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It may even be a step beyond what Radio-Mart does with stripping options
out of radios he buys for resale.


Yeah, but radiomart gets beat up here, not so much for stripping out
options, but for being "imaginative" with the truth in his descriptions.

This seller doesn't seem to be up there with radiomart, but he does say some
things which engage the imagination:

"Winner takes ALL"

ALL of what? Not the radio's loop antenna or the radio's dynamic expander.
Those are being auctioned seperately. And not the radio's speaker. Your
guess is as good as mine as where the speaker is. I suppose ALL means just
the receiver chassis, the phono chassis and the audio power amp chassis, as
well as an option to take the cabinet. In this case, the word ALL doesn't
mean ALL of the original radio.

"Receiver has been tested and powers up ok."

The receiver has been tested, but there's no reason to think it passed it's
test OK. In fact, I wouldn't expect it to work without it's 0A2. Unless I
miss my guess, the radio uses a gas discharge regulator (the 0A2) to
stabilize the voltage to the radio's local oscillator. Without that tube,
the radio just won't work. Inexperienced people sometimes think those tubes
are defective because they glow internally as they work, much like a neon
sign. "powers up", in this case, seems to mean little more than "all the
tubes glow clean".

Not there's anything wrong with being obtuse about the radio's condition.
It's an Ebay auction. I've bought several dead radios through Ebay. But I
prefer sellers who are more forthright about what they're selling.

Frank Dresser

Frank Dresser wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
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It may even be a step beyond what Radio-Mart does with stripping options
out of radios he buys for resale.



Yeah, but radiomart gets beat up here, not so much for stripping out
options, but for being "imaginative" with the truth in his descriptions.

This seller doesn't seem to be up there with radiomart, but he does say some
things which engage the imagination:

"Winner takes ALL"

ALL of what? Not the radio's loop antenna or the radio's dynamic expander.
Those are being auctioned seperately. And not the radio's speaker. Your
guess is as good as mine as where the speaker is. I suppose ALL means just
the receiver chassis, the phono chassis and the audio power amp chassis, as
well as an option to take the cabinet. In this case, the word ALL doesn't
mean ALL of the original radio.

"Receiver has been tested and powers up ok."

The receiver has been tested, but there's no reason to think it passed it's
test OK. In fact, I wouldn't expect it to work without it's 0A2. Unless I
miss my guess, the radio uses a gas discharge regulator (the 0A2) to
stabilize the voltage to the radio's local oscillator. Without that tube,
the radio just won't work. Inexperienced people sometimes think those tubes
are defective because they glow internally as they work, much like a neon
sign. "powers up", in this case, seems to mean little more than "all the
tubes glow clean".

Not there's anything wrong with being obtuse about the radio's condition.
It's an Ebay auction. I've bought several dead radios through Ebay. But I
prefer sellers who are more forthright about what they're selling.

Frank Dresser


Well on reflection, perhaps comparing him to Radio-mart was a bit harsh.

I'd feel better if he mentioned the "options" he took out are being sold
on other auctions.

I'd think most folks who would bid on something like that would want the
whole thing instead of a chassis.

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
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Well on reflection, perhaps comparing him to Radio-mart was a bit harsh.

I'd feel better if he mentioned the "options" he took out are being sold
on other auctions.

Well, he does mention that near the bottom of his Ebay auction page. But to
get there you well go past the sales pitches for:

classic Receiver
AND Mono Power Amp
AND a tube phonostage
original bakelite type knobs (minus one knob, to be auctioned seperately
with dynamic expander)
Original connection cables are ALL included
ALSO INCLUDED is the original Schematic from the rear of the console with a
tube layout chart

A Radio-mart comaprision is a bit harsh. More like Ron Popiel.


I'd think most folks who would bid on something like that would want the
whole thing instead of a chassis.

Dunno. Consoles were large, and the really fancy ones were the home
entertainment centers of the day. Shipping them around is expensive. Few
people have the room to properly display a few console radios. Nice table
top radios attract more buyers and usually get a better price.

Frank Dresser

Brian Hill wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"OldGold" wrote in message
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Winner takes ALL.


You've seperated the loop antenna and dynamic expander from the radio and
are auctioning these parts seperately.

Just what do you mean with "Winner takes ALL"?

Frank Dresser


Why do people do that crap? You'll never find those parts to put it together
and most wont bid on three auctions just to try for fear you may loose one
and end up with a incomplete unit.

Sounds to me as though the other two items are merely accessories for the radio
and that it will still function without them.

Much like selling say a Drake R8 and having seperate auctions for the VHF
convertor and the MS8 speaker.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

I simply see the Power Amp/ Receiver/Phono stage as the main pieces.
And grouped them together as such.

The loop antenna and the expander are just accessories. Not essential
to the main units.

Why do people do that crap?

I can't figure it out either. I've seen a seller with twelve auctions
for R-390A parts (one auction: gears. Second auction: gear clamps.
Third auction: knobs. Fourth auction: IF deck minus filters. Fifth
auction: Filters for IF deck etc.) all claiming they all came from the
same "working" R-390A. It's like they decided they could make more
money by stripping every little piece off a working radio. What was
sad in this case was that it wasn't even complete subassemblies - they
tore the geartrain apart and were selling the gears in one auction, the
metal plates in another, the clamps in a third, !!!!

I have nothing against selling "parts" radios or selling parts from a
non-working non-restorable radio. But to strip a perfectly good
working radio into tiny bits and pieces.... it hurts to think about it.

My only conclusion is that their day job is at a chop shop.

Tim.