David wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:04:17 -0400, Beerbarrel wrote:


Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.

I blame God.


Which one?

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Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

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cuhu...@ wrote:

Someday,there will be underwater Cities under the Seas/Oceans.We will
have Bases on the Moon and on Mars.Are they idiots,there are people
right now living in the International Space Station? Are the people in
the Nederlands and Venis,Italy and Mexico City,Mexico and people who
live downstream from big Dams idiots?
cuhulin
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Holland has 2 major cities below sea level. Amsterdam and
Roterdam.
One big difference is that Holland doesn't have huricanes.
Another is the moral and work ethics of the people.
Talked today via Email to a Dutch SWLer who lurks in this group
and he pointed out that while the Dutch government has it's share
of idiots, unlike LA general and New Orleans in specific, thier
politicians are pretty clean (cooruption wise) and also rather
competent.
The Dutch have evacuation plans and FORCE residents to participate.

How does one force them to participate? Hold a gun to their head?


When a breach occurs the Dutch will likely do pretty well. They have
lived below the sea for ~400 years and have learned the hard way that
you have to think things out, make effective plans and execute them
when something bad happens. IF NEw Orleans was 1/10 as orgnaised as
teh Dtuch, there would have been no problem.

My understanding is that their levee system is much large in scope, and that
the districts surrounded by levees are smaller, thus limiting losses.


As to lving below a damn, yea that is pretty damn dumb. The Mulholland
impoundment failed in Californica and it killed several hundred back in
the 1930's or so. US damndsby and by are well built and fairly safe.
But
last spring, in Californica again, a city had to be evaucuated because
heavy rainfall had causeed the empoundment to rise threatening to
crest the damn. They got the water edown, wiht no major trouble, but
it was scarey for a while.

As to cities on the moon,or other hostile planets, I doubt that will
happen for a while. With todays technology only the truely dedicated
and brave will live in a "space statio" or even fly on the shuttle. OK
strike brave because if NASA called me tonight and asked me to take
a SW receiver up in the shultte and study ionosphreic RF leakage.

Many in this group doubt your wisdom, but tell us, do you live BELOW
sea level? With 800K other poeple? In an area with too few roads in
and out? Do you have enough water and food on hand to get by the few
days needed unti outside help could arrive?

As to Venis (did you really mean Venice?), I have been there and yea
they are idiots. To live in a poop filled city,the order is there, that
is
sinking every year, only the really stupid live there. The only thing
it
has is some wonderfull art.

Mexico City risks? Other then being the capital of a hostile nation,
run by poeple that make New Orleans look like a honor brain trust.
And the corruption makes New Orleans cops look like BoyScouts.
My friends who were raised there all speak of how vile and ugly
Mexico City is. So for an Anglo to live there, yea would be pretty
damn stupid.

Terry

When you think about the "tragedy" we all came through when we was
born,it is a wonder we survived at all.You can't drive that big old 1958
Buick through that little Canal,it's too d..n big! Get out the chainsaw
then.
cuhulin

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The Dutch are Masters at reclaiming land from the Sea.They get some
pretty bad weather over there too.I think fed govt should ask some Dutch
Engineers to come to America (New Orleans and the Wetlands around there)
and study the situation.We could lean a lot from them.
cuhulin



The Dutch volunteered for exactly that reason. The last I heard the
offer was declined, but that was several days ago.


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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

If another "Katrina" happens in another large American City,it will be
the same thing all over again.
cuhulin

"KA6UUP" wrote in message
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FDR wrote:

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The topic thread names is "Who is to blame?".
Real simple, the idiots who choose to live BELOW sea level.
The same idiots who lived below sea level protected by a
flood wall/levee system designed for a class 3 huricane
who stayed put when a CLASS !4! was forecast to come
ashore where they lived.


You probably blame a woman for getting raped too.


You have to love the brainless left, see:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16494464-5001160,00.html
for an example of a well thought liberal out response.
"With the boat loaded with members of Penn's entourage, including a
personal photographer, one bystander taunted the actor: "How are you
going to get any people in that thing?""

Terry




No comparison. Thy had a choice, the woman didn't.
Typical knee jerk lefty response

They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality that she
asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park jogging at
night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal. Would you
say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and
therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't flirt
because she then made a choice to get raped?

If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice to leave
my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so nice
area so it's my fault.

"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote:

Beerbarrel wrote:

Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.
Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss.
Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1.

Anyone familiar with La, Miss. etc knows the states are heavly forested.
Especially the northern parts. I heard a news crew say it took them 19
hours to get to the Miss. coast from Atlanta. They had to cut their way
through the downed trees across the interstate with a chainsaw to get
through.

Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:59:15 -0400
From: Maj Shooter
Subject: Keesler AFB
To: Cruffler List
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Latest word we got from Keesler (1 Sep 05) is that though the base is
pretty messed up there was NO loss of life. The commissary and BX are
toast as is most of family housing and most of the rest of the base.
The folks that rode out the storm at Keesler just came out and had their
first hot meal since it hit...6000 meals on the first go around. They
currently have no phone, land-line or cell, and their runway is the only
one open in the area...only daylight, VFR flights allowed.. Bout it,
though we get a couple of updates per day.

And yes, there are mumblings about doing to Keesler what was done to
Homestead, but only mumblings, not even rumors.

Maj Shooter
Virginia (Pentagon)


KA6UUP


"Mr. Chairman, I travels around the state of Louisiana, and when
I does, I always have me a gun in ma car. But, Mista Chairman,
when I goes to New Orleans, I have's me two guns."
Louisiana Representative Romo Romero


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You are absolutely right! If you listen to the press, only NO matters.
Go figure! I sent my donation to the people of Mississippi.

Mine went to all hurricane victims

Thing is though,Lousiana is losing many thousands of acres of land
(wetlands in South Louisiana,do some research on that,and the
Mississippi Gulf Coast is man made) every year due to natural erosion.No
telling how much of that land Katrina wiped out.
cuhulin

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:45:24 GMT, "FDR"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote:

Beerbarrel wrote:

Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.
Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss.
Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1.

Anyone familiar with La, Miss. etc knows the states are heavly forested.
Especially the northern parts. I heard a news crew say it took them 19
hours to get to the Miss. coast from Atlanta. They had to cut their way
through the downed trees across the interstate with a chainsaw to get
through.

Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:59:15 -0400
From: Maj Shooter
Subject: Keesler AFB
To: Cruffler List
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Latest word we got from Keesler (1 Sep 05) is that though the base is
pretty messed up there was NO loss of life. The commissary and BX are
toast as is most of family housing and most of the rest of the base.
The folks that rode out the storm at Keesler just came out and had their
first hot meal since it hit...6000 meals on the first go around. They
currently have no phone, land-line or cell, and their runway is the only
one open in the area...only daylight, VFR flights allowed.. Bout it,
though we get a couple of updates per day.

And yes, there are mumblings about doing to Keesler what was done to
Homestead, but only mumblings, not even rumors.

Maj Shooter
Virginia (Pentagon)


KA6UUP


"Mr. Chairman, I travels around the state of Louisiana, and when
I does, I always have me a gun in ma car. But, Mista Chairman,
when I goes to New Orleans, I have's me two guns."
Louisiana Representative Romo Romero


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You are absolutely right! If you listen to the press, only NO matters.
Go figure! I sent my donation to the people of Mississippi.

Mine went to all hurricane victims




That's great....I'm glad to see you give. I wish everyone would.

Yep,I mispelled Venice.I remember seeing a Movietone news reel in the
Paramount theater that used to be on Capitol Street here in Jackson.It
was back in the 1950's when I sat there and I watched that Movietone
news reel with my little hazel blue/green eyeballs (our eyeballs are the
same size eyeballs we were born with) and the Movietone news reel was
about the Nederlands (Is your Dutch buddy lurking now?) Queen Wilhemina
-- (spelling) Now,that auld broad really was "crackers".She would make
klintoon (if she were alive today) look like a Saint by comparison.
cuhulin