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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote:
Beerbarrel wrote: Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and blame everybody else. Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss. Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1. I imagine the Air Force facility was not filling up with water. |
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Women dont "ask to get raped".Sheeesh.
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FDR wrote:
How does one force them to participate? Hold a gun to their head? My understanding is that their levee system is much large in scope, and that the districts surrounded by levees are smaller, thus limiting losses. ------------------------- ?Fines if they don't? I will try to find out. Perhaps if you don't and you get stuck you ar left to fend for yourself. And yes, that is the POINT. IF you are going ot lvie below see level, you had really, really, and I mean really think it through. New Orleans just happened. All too little planning. The Dutch knew they were recovering land from the sea. New Orleans just kind of slipped beneth sea level with way too little attention. Yes Holland has "thrown" a lot more money, but it was a cost benifit thing. They got many benifits, IE 40% of their land, from the sea. New Orleans was one large aparty barge or whore house. Not too valuable and no one rally thought about ht esex workers. Bad anology, but I will stand by it. New Orleans was a transhippment, ports, rail nexus, pipes etc and NO ONE thoght of the city it self having any real value. And it didn't History? In the first 4 years it was DESTROYED 3 times by hurincanes. Then for 200+ years yellow fevor and Typhoid stalked the land killing, by one reffernce, 40K a year. I want to research that figure, but one of my many history books give 40K. So please forgive me if I no longer bleed purple over this event. Too much whining and bithcing by the truely lame about events thier action, or inaction casued. Floods are a LOCAL issue. In Dayton OH the 1932(or 33?) floods where bad. The locals built their own system of levees and redirected the Little Miami river. It costs each perowsn(or household) about a $1 per year. If they wanted higher levees then THEY should have built them. If they needed more pumps, with a better backup power system, then THEY should have build them. Because they did nothing they got the screwing they deserved and many died. I am willing to bet that when this is all over more will have died as the direct result of violence from other locals then from the waters. In any event I have stopped feelling much sympathy for New Orleans, or the many who suffered and died. They took no action and reaped what they sowed, or not so to speak. It is like people out west who want to live amoung the pretty trees. And when forrest fire comes along they act so damned shocked. Call me a cynic but the government helping by rebuilding will only insure this happens again. Until FEMA stopped rebuilding homes along the Mississippi and other river, flood planes people just kept getting washed out year after year. Move the damn city or live with the certaintity that you will get nailed by the next cat 4 or 5 huricane that comes along. Terry |
"Beerbarrel" wrote in message ... On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:45:24 GMT, "FDR" wrote: "Beerbarrel" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote: Beerbarrel wrote: Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and blame everybody else. Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss. Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1. Anyone familiar with La, Miss. etc knows the states are heavly forested. Especially the northern parts. I heard a news crew say it took them 19 hours to get to the Miss. coast from Atlanta. They had to cut their way through the downed trees across the interstate with a chainsaw to get through. Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:59:15 -0400 From: Maj Shooter Subject: Keesler AFB To: Cruffler List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Latest word we got from Keesler (1 Sep 05) is that though the base is pretty messed up there was NO loss of life. The commissary and BX are toast as is most of family housing and most of the rest of the base. The folks that rode out the storm at Keesler just came out and had their first hot meal since it hit...6000 meals on the first go around. They currently have no phone, land-line or cell, and their runway is the only one open in the area...only daylight, VFR flights allowed.. Bout it, though we get a couple of updates per day. And yes, there are mumblings about doing to Keesler what was done to Homestead, but only mumblings, not even rumors. Maj Shooter Virginia (Pentagon) KA6UUP "Mr. Chairman, I travels around the state of Louisiana, and when I does, I always have me a gun in ma car. But, Mista Chairman, when I goes to New Orleans, I have's me two guns." Louisiana Representative Romo Romero ------------------------------ You are absolutely right! If you listen to the press, only NO matters. Go figure! I sent my donation to the people of Mississippi. Mine went to all hurricane victims That's great....I'm glad to see you give. I wish everyone would. I'm fortunate. Others aren't. I can't see how I couldn't give. |
FDR wrote:
They are still victims. If a woman gets raped there is a mentality that she asked for it because she dressed too sexually, or was in the park jogging at night, or she flirted with a guy and he took it as a go signal. Would you say that a woman had the choice of wearing something less sexual and therefore it's her choice to get raped? Or that she shouldn't flirt because she then made a choice to get raped? If I walk outside and get mugged, is it my fault? I made a choice to leave my apartment so it's my fault. I made a choice to live in a not so nice area so it's my fault. ----------------------------- This is where we disagree. It is like the fools that ski out of the safe area, get in trouble and expect "someone" to rescue them. Or climbers whose task excedes there skill, again tehy want someone else to bail them out. 800+K decided to rsik living in a disater waitingto happen. Most had sense enough to flee withthe warnings. Those who didn't, excepting those who where too sick, ill infirm, got what they deserved. Sad, yea but natures a bitch. Way different from a woman getting raped. Nature doesn't rape anyone. It takes the action of a man, OK I guess a few women have raped but damned few, to rape. Tehwoman may have been foolsih, stupid or just ignorant of the danger, but the preditor still decided to rape and foolwed throguh on that action. Big difference between rape and getting washed away, burried in snow or stranded on a mountain. We try and imprison, or execute rapists. We have to bow, or at least pay attention to mother nature. Live below sea level, stay in a storm and drown. Very simple. You can save yourself by LEAVING. Katrina and rape could only be confussed in a liberal's mind. Terry |
FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "Beerbarrel" wrote in message ... Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and blame everybody else. I think we should eliminate FEMA and the Dept. of Homeland Security. They do nothing anyway. Then why are you screaming liberal 'tard boys bitching about why they didn't show up fast enough if they don't do anything anyway? You don't read very well do you. I read better than the stuff you type, ****stain. dxAce Michigan USA |
wrote in message oups.com... FDR wrote: How does one force them to participate? Hold a gun to their head? My understanding is that their levee system is much large in scope, and that the districts surrounded by levees are smaller, thus limiting losses. ------------------------- ?Fines if they don't? I will try to find out. Perhaps if you don't and you get stuck you ar left to fend for yourself. And yes, that is the POINT. IF you are going ot lvie below see level, you had really, really, and I mean really think it through. New Orleans just happened. All too little planning. The Dutch knew they were recovering land from the sea. New Orleans just kind of slipped beneth sea level with way too little attention. Yes Holland has "thrown" a lot more money, but it was a cost benifit thing. They got many benifits, IE 40% of their land, from the sea. New Orleans was one large aparty barge or whore house. Not too valuable and no one rally thought about ht esex workers. Bad anology, but I will stand by it. New Orleans was a transhippment, ports, rail nexus, pipes etc and NO ONE thoght of the city it self having any real value. And it didn't History? In the first 4 years it was DESTROYED 3 times by hurincanes. Then for 200+ years yellow fevor and Typhoid stalked the land killing, by one reffernce, 40K a year. I want to research that figure, but one of my many history books give 40K. So please forgive me if I no longer bleed purple over this event. Too much whining and bithcing by the truely lame about events thier action, or inaction casued. Yeah, **** those people. Too bad they didn't all die, then we wouldn't have to rebuild. Maybe we could just force them back there and drown them for good. They were poor people, no one would notice. Floods are a LOCAL issue. Exactly. It's time the Federal government got rid of this FEMA thing. It doesn't work and costs us a lot of money. Next time they should just drop shotguns to the "suvivors" and let them shoot it out until they kill everyone. In Dayton OH the 1932(or 33?) floods where bad. The locals built their own system of levees and redirected the Little Miami river. It costs each perowsn(or household) about a $1 per year. If they wanted higher levees then THEY should have built them. If they needed more pumps, with a better backup power system, then THEY should have build them. Because they did nothing they got the screwing they deserved and many died. I am willing to bet that when this is all over more will have died as the direct result of violence from other locals then from the waters. Yeah! And if they get attacked by a nuclear warhead from China, it's their own damn fault they didn't install a anti-ballistic missile system to save themselves! In any event I have stopped feelling much sympathy for New Orleans, or the many who suffered and died. They took no action and reaped what they sowed, or not so to speak. Hey, let's get together some weekend and go stomp on their graves. I'll bring a couple of six packs and Ted Nugent albums. It is like people out west who want to live amoung the pretty trees. And when forrest fire comes along they act so damned shocked. Call me a cynic but the government helping by rebuilding will only insure this happens again. I blame the government for buying the land west of the Mississippi in the first place. There's too much upkeep. Until FEMA stopped rebuilding homes along the Mississippi and other river, flood planes people just kept getting washed out year after year. And if people would just stop having damn babies we wouldn't have to wrooy about more deaths too. Move the damn city or live with the certaintity that you will get nailed by the next cat 4 or 5 huricane that comes along. Terry |
David wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:39:17 GMT, KA6UUP wrote: Beerbarrel wrote: Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and blame everybody else. Well, It isn't just about NO. Here is a report on neesler AFB in Miss. Notice they didn't get out 'til 9/1. I imagine the Air Force facility was not filling up with water. Check the pictures out he http://iraqwarnews.net/2005/09/katri...o-keesler.html |
What was the name of that Hurricane about a year or so ago and I think
the name of the City in Florida is Port Charlotte that the Hurricane tore up? Not long after that I saw a tomsblogspot (something like that) and some people were blogging/talking away in there and there was something about many of the dead bodies didn't get reported and some fema guys were riding around in that area with a sort of a look on those fema guys faces as if,If you even look at us we will ruin your day! And the people who live in that area were wondering where is the help. cuhulin |
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