You can buy Degen Radios on China's eBay for US$34 (free delivery in China)!
If the seller is making a hypothetical US$10 profit on each radio the
manufacturer (Communist owned enterprise) is dumping this product in order
to eliminate the competition. Namely Eton & Sony. The short-wave radio
marketplace in China is, for all practical purposes closed. It is difficult
to find and purchase Eton or Sony short-wave radios in China. They can be
found but you will spend much of your time hunting.

Be careful on what you spend your hard earned money.

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I have the Kaito 1102. It's PLL, dual conversion, no chugging. I've
seen them on eBay new for as low as $64.95 + $9.95 shipping. These 2
radios are definitely the best values under $100. George S., MN

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:40:37 -0600, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote:

You can buy Degen Radios on China's eBay for US$34 (free delivery in China)!
If the seller is making a hypothetical US$10 profit on each radio the
manufacturer (Communist owned enterprise) is dumping this product in order
to eliminate the competition. Namely Eton & Sony. The short-wave radio
marketplace in China is, for all practical purposes closed. It is difficult
to find and purchase Eton or Sony short-wave radios in China. They can be
found but you will spend much of your time hunting.

Be careful on what you spend your hard earned money.

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I have the Kaito 1102. It's PLL, dual conversion, no chugging. I've
seen them on eBay new for as low as $64.95 + $9.95 shipping. These 2
radios are definitely the best values under $100. George S., MN


Communists? Give me a break. The Chinese are fascist totalitarians
just like us.

DaviD Proclaims - " The Chinese are fascist totalitarians
just like us. " {The USA}

DaviD - 'you' have a way with words and expressing 'yourself'.

DaviD - 'your' Uber-Liberal Bias causes 'you' to see things
through 'pink' tinted glasses and naturally you see :
fascists here,
Fascist There.
FASCISTS EVERYWHERE !

ABOUT - The People Republic of China (PRC) :
The Chinese now have One Party Korporate Kommunism State
that is supported by / and in support of the People's
Liberation Army (PLA) aimed at making China both an Economic
and Military World Leader -aka- a so called "Super Power".


david - wake-up and see the kommunist for what they are ~ RHF

SeeingEyeDog wrote:
You can buy Degen Radios on China's eBay for US$34 (free delivery in China)!
If the seller is making a hypothetical US$10 profit on each radio the
manufacturer (Communist owned enterprise) is dumping this product in order
to eliminate the competition. Namely Eton & Sony.

Eton radios are nothing more than rebadged Degen and Tecsun receivers.
So if they wanted to eliminate any potential competition from Eton all
they have to do is stop supplying them!

Sony is the last of the significant manufacturers to bail out of the
shortwave receiver market. The market for shortwave radios was never
large, and it has shrunk to a tiny fraction as we all know.


The short-wave radio
marketplace in China is, for all practical purposes closed. It is difficult
to find and purchase Eton or Sony short-wave radios in China. They can be
found but you will spend much of your time hunting.

If a chinese SWLer wanted an Eton product they would just have to buy a
Tecsun or Degen. I'm at a loss as to why a chinese national would want
to pay the inflated Eton prices.

Not many Sony shortwave radios to be found in chine bcause they are not
making any. And because China hasn't opened it's market to outside
products. Not unlike Japan and the good old USA with their import
duties. Still, I've seen more than one chinese SWL's website with
extensive collections of radios that include several old Sony and
Panasonic radios as well as numerous chinese brands.

I'm completely missing your point here. You seem to be trying to prove
some sort of chinese conspiracy....


Be careful on what you spend your hard earned money.

For sure. That's why the Degen DE1103 from a chinese seller is such a
great buy!



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I have the Kaito 1102. It's PLL, dual conversion, no chugging. I've
seen them on eBay new for as low as $64.95 + $9.95 shipping. These 2
radios are definitely the best values under $100. George S., MN

"John S." wrote

Eton radios are nothing more than rebadged Degen and Tecsun receivers.
So if they wanted to eliminate any potential competition from Eton all
they have to do is stop supplying them!

Why would they do that? The Communist Party isn't as stupid as you beleive.
They will be happy to build sets that you sell for $140 while they sell
their version
domestically and over the internet at a fraction of the price, at a loss
mind you.
This is done with many products in China to keep the branding company off
its turf. It makes money manufacturing for foreigners and sells the same
product
domestically at a loss.

In a few years you will begin to see Chinese branded products marketed
by Communist Party owned enterprises here in the U.S. They will bypass
your western marketing companies and sell direct to you at a cheaper
price than anyone. Even Wal-Mart. The Communist Party recently sponsored
and held a trade show in New York for just such a purpose.

Sony is the last of the significant manufacturers to bail out of the
shortwave receiver market. The market for shortwave radios was never
large, and it has shrunk to a tiny fraction as we all know.

There are at least 3,000,000,000 people living within China and India alone.
Few if any have given up their shortwave radios. It is simply your narrow
western veiw of the shortwave market that clouds your mind.

If a chinese SWLer wanted an Eton product they would just have to buy a
Tecsun or Degen. I'm at a loss as to why a chinese national would want
to pay the inflated Eton prices.

They don't have to like you say. They buy the domestic version cheaper
than the price of your dinner.

Not many Sony shortwave radios to be found in chine bcause they are not
making any.

Huh?

And because China hasn't opened it's market to outside
products.

D'oh! That's a revelation?

Not unlike Japan and the good old USA with their import
duties.

Import duties on Eton, Sony, Tecsun, Kaito, Degen Kochibo... radios?
I think your lieing.

Still, I've seen more than one chinese SWL's website with
extensive collections of radios that include several old Sony and
Panasonic radios as well as numerous chinese brands.

Re-read what I posted. But you go to China and try to amass the same
collection and see how many years it takes on an average salary of $400 a
month.

I'm completely missing your point here. You seem to be trying to prove
some sort of chinese conspiracy....

Your completely niave and ignorant of Chinese business practices.
For that reason they would love to be your partner.


Be careful on what you spend your hard earned money.

For sure. That's why the Degen DE1103 from a chinese seller is such a
great buy!

It's a great buy because they are dumping a product assembled by slave
labour.
If it continues you will soon be able to buy ONLY Chinese radios. At which
time they may decide to limit the tuning to only a select few of CRI
frequencies.
YOUR HOOKED!

Eton radios are nothing more than rebadged Degen and Tecsun receivers.
So if they wanted to eliminate any potential competition from Eton all
they have to do is stop supplying them!


The Kaito-Degen radios seem to offer more bang for the buck than the
Tecsun models being sold under the Eton name. I'm curious, which Degen
radios are currently being sold under the Eton name?

I saw in PWBR that there's this DE1106 that Degen was going to produce
but they "sold the '1106's rights to another firm" (Eton). That radio
will be sold as the E5. I wonder if manufacture of this unit will be
by Degen in Shenzhen? In any case, this E5 looks likely to be a better
performer than the E10 or E100 (both of which seem somewhat mediocre in
comparison with the price and performance offered by the Kaito-Degen
models). Perhaps Eton bought the rights so that they could slap a
$150-plus price on this radio w/out being undercut by China-based
internet retailers (i.e. that eBay fellow in Guangzhou) selling a
DE1106 at a fraction of the price.

I'm still unclear on the relationship between Degen and Tecsun. They
seem to be internationally marketed through the same distribution point
in Hong Kong. There was once some Leowood guy who posted in here,
building up a lot of hype over some (presumably) forthcoming DE1108,
and this guy gave out some line that Degen used to once be a Tecsun
subsidiary but that it was now a separate and independent company. I
don't know if he was full of it about that and about the 1108. He had
claimed to be doing research on consumer preferences and that sorta
thing. Anyone ever heard anything since about this '1108?

Junius