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Old March 4th 06, 09:06 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.


And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio and
luddites, will just be SOL.


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Old March 4th 06, 11:51 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.


And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio and
luddites, will just be SOL.


Overly harsh assessment. I listen to stations out of the area for
content. Other people also fall into this group. Some advertising is
regional and national not just local so distant advertising does work.

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Ventura, California
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Old March 5th 06, 03:01 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:51:26 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.


And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio and
luddites, will just be SOL.


Overly harsh assessment. I listen to stations out of the area for
content. Other people also fall into this group. Some advertising is
regional and national not just local so distant advertising does work.

Indeed. The only local I have is 1220, KHTS.

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Old March 11th 06, 03:08 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.


And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio and
luddites, will just be SOL.


Overly harsh assessment. I listen to stations out of the area for
content. Other people also fall into this group. Some advertising is
regional and national not just local so distant advertising does work.

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Telamon
Ventura, California


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The explanation of profit maximization is rather depressing. Three
items of note a (1) CKLW was ordered by the CRTC to cease and
desist in its whoring of the Detroit market and to follow Canadian
broadcast regulations. It complied and is now serving Windsor as a
less profitable operation. (2) CFRB (Canada's First Rogers Batteryless)
is a private station but has operated CFRX (6070) to serve the
boondocks
for at least half a century. As the skip lengthens out at night, it is
heard
all over the world. How does this fit the business model of maximum
profits?
(3) More and more stations are simulcasting on the internet. Why are
they
doing this if it doesn't maximize profits in their trading area?
It is amusimg that so many listerers who jeered at the BBC method
of financing the radio service are now rushing to pay the satellite
broadcasters $10 to get commercial-free programs. I am afraid that
quality programming will get lost in all this maximum profit drive.
Will the vast wasteland sound any better in digital?

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Old March 5th 06, 04:06 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.


And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio and
luddites, will just be SOL.



I'm not aware of any anti-radio luddites, but if I ever meet one, I'll be
sure to remind him to get rid of both his radios and his internet
connection.

However, to an Alex Jones SWL-type distrustful paranoid, Ibiquity's IBOC
looks hidden adgenda-ish. It's not about "CD quality sound" it's about
multicasting.

So, if I've got it wrong, please tell me. Is it impossible for the IBOC-AM
scheme to be used for multicasting?

Frank Dresser




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Old March 5th 06, 07:33 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
Telamon
 
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In article ,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.


And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio and
luddites, will just be SOL.



I'm not aware of any anti-radio luddites, but if I ever meet one, I'll be
sure to remind him to get rid of both his radios and his internet
connection.

However, to an Alex Jones SWL-type distrustful paranoid, Ibiquity's IBOC
looks hidden adgenda-ish. It's not about "CD quality sound" it's about
multicasting.

So, if I've got it wrong, please tell me. Is it impossible for the IBOC-AM
scheme to be used for multicasting?



It is about making money. If a station, equipment vendor or the two of
them together can get an advantage in the market over a competitor then
they will do it. If they can put a competitor at a disadvantage they
will do it. The entire conspiracy is to make money. That the whole story.

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Telamon
Ventura, California
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Old March 5th 06, 09:40 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. net...

wrote in message
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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.


And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio and
luddites, will just be SOL.



I'm not aware of any anti-radio luddites, but if I ever meet one, I'll be
sure to remind him to get rid of both his radios and his internet
connection.


As to DXers, I find that most today are very opposed to changes in radio,
whether formatically or technically, and are very negative towards the way
stations operate. I have disassociate myself form DX organisaions as they
almost all seem to be out to change radio to the detriment of those of us
who work in the field.

Since essentially no radio listening, in terms of percentage, is skywave
night listening, the other poings are moot.

However, to an Alex Jones SWL-type distrustful paranoid, Ibiquity's IBOC
looks hidden adgenda-ish. It's not about "CD quality sound" it's about
multicasting.


It is about all of this. It is about giving radio the digital buzzword, more
channels, and improved AM quality.

So, if I've got it wrong, please tell me. Is it impossible for the
IBOC-AM
scheme to be used for multicasting?


Pretty much so. Not enough bandwidth unless analog is dropped and all the
signal is devoted to digital.


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Old March 5th 06, 09:51 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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David "La Gringa" Gleason wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.

And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio and
luddites, will just be SOL.



I'm not aware of any anti-radio luddites, but if I ever meet one, I'll be
sure to remind him to get rid of both his radios and his internet
connection.


As to DXers, I find that most today are very opposed to changes in radio,
whether formatically or technically, and are very negative towards the way
stations operate. I have disassociate myself form DX organisaions as they
almost all seem to be out to change radio to the detriment of those of us
who work in the field.


Or was it a case of the DX organizations disassociating themselves from you?
Seems to me like you got your ass handed to you in most any discussion you
entered into.

Remember: IBOC = QRM

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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Old March 5th 06, 11:02 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David "La Gringa" Gleason wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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You realize if they ever turn on HD at night, DXing will be history.

And the couple of hundred AM DXers left, most of whom are anti-radio
and
luddites, will just be SOL.



I'm not aware of any anti-radio luddites, but if I ever meet one, I'll
be
sure to remind him to get rid of both his radios and his internet
connection.


As to DXers, I find that most today are very opposed to changes in radio,
whether formatically or technically, and are very negative towards the
way
stations operate. I have disassociate myself form DX organisaions as they
almost all seem to be out to change radio to the detriment of those of us
who work in the field.


Or was it a case of the DX organizations disassociating themselves from
you?


Both the NRC, of which I was a member going back to the 50's and the IRCA,
which I helped found, are increasingly populated by anti-radio people who
are antagonistic towards the stations and the industry they DX. Add that to
the fact that all I seem to see at our AMs are faked DX reports (last one
was a "definite" ID for a name KTNQ has not used for 13 years) and I am
quite down on AM DXers as a group.

Clarification: except for you and a couple of Brother Stari kooks, SW DXers
are as a whole a really interesting group, and have a much less insular view
of things.

Seems to me like you got your ass handed to you in most any discussion you
entered into.


Hardly. The fact that a bunch of radio haters is against the progress of
radio actually supports my argument against the majority of AM (MW) DXers.

Remember: IBOC = QRM


HD = radio's best bet for the future.


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I prefer Analog Radio and Analog TV and the old fashioned tried and true
CRT TV sets and CRT computer monitors.I dont care for that new fangled
digital crap.
cuhulin



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